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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:13 am    Post subject:

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and the rich get richer......Vernon Carey (Class of '19) chooses Duke.

Jahlil Okafor with a jump shot. I'm not super excited about him as a draft prospect, but he should be a really tough cover in college.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:17 am    Post subject:

Solid updated mock from Wasserman at B/R: Link.

He has the Lakers taking raw Texas rim protector Jaxson Hayes (6'11 220).
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:35 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Solid updated mock from Wasserman at B/R: Link.

He has the Lakers taking raw Texas rim protector Jaxson Hayes (6'11 220).


Is he a good communicator?
Does his voice project?
Can he think on the fly?
I realized that good defensive bigs need to be great communicators on the floor.
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adkindo wrote:
and the rich get richer......Vernon Carey (Class of '19) chooses Duke.

Jahlil Okafor with a jump shot. I'm not super excited about him as a draft prospect, but he should be a really tough cover in college.


He looks as lazy as Okafor on defense on the vids I have watched.
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adkindo wrote:
and the rich get richer......Vernon Carey (Class of '19) chooses Duke.

Jahlil Okafor with a jump shot. I'm not super excited about him as a draft prospect, but he should be a really tough cover in college.


I watched him a decent amount at the end of last season because a player on his team had committed to WVU (Trey Doomes '18), and I was not that impressed with Carey either. The kid that kind of wowed me on that team was a Sophomore last year...so should be a Junior this year....Scottie Barnes.

https://247sports.com/Player/Scottie-Barnes-46039731/

Syracuse verbal commit Class of '20....#1 player in FL, #1 SF, #3 in US
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adkindo wrote:
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adkindo wrote:
and the rich get richer......Vernon Carey (Class of '19) chooses Duke.

Jahlil Okafor with a jump shot. I'm not super excited about him as a draft prospect, but he should be a really tough cover in college.


I watched him a decent amount at the end of last season because a player on his team had committed to WVU (Trey Doomes '18), and I was not that impressed with Carey either. The kid that kind of wowed me on that team was a Sophomore last year...so should be a Junior this year....Scottie Barnes.

https://247sports.com/Player/Scottie-Barnes-46039731/

Syracuse verbal commit Class of '20....#1 player in FL, #1 SF, #3 in US

The 2020 NBA draft (2019 seniors) looks like one to trade out of if the Lakers do make a move for Beal or AD or whoever. I like Cole Anthony and some of the international kids early on, but there's a real lack of depth unless a bunch of guys stay in college this year.

I need to check out Barnes. I know he's been hyped up as a real talented scorer.
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epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Solid updated mock from Wasserman at B/R: Link.

He has the Lakers taking raw Texas rim protector Jaxson Hayes (6'11 220).


Is he a good communicator?
Does his voice project?
Can he think on the fly?
I realized that good defensive bigs need to be great communicators on the floor.

No idea. Draftniks whose scouting I like thought he would be a 2-3 year project and he seems to get lost a bit based on the one half I saw him play in (UT v. UNC). But he may be switchable as well as a rim protector, which is tougher to find.

Anyway, a kid to monitor and he should have a number of good matchups in the Big-12. Cuz right now I don't have any strong opinions about him.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:37 am    Post subject:

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I need to check out Barnes. I know he's been hyped up as a real talented scorer.


not sure what that tournament was...but it was the supposed high school national championship....and Barnes was a Sophomore while Doomes was a Senior and Carey was a Junior.....in my opinion, Barnes was clearly the best player on the court in every game they played. If I recall, they lost the championship game.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:12 pm    Post subject:

It's gonna be interesting if SAS lottos itself to the #1 pick
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:41 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Solid updated mock from Wasserman at B/R: Link.

He has the Lakers taking raw Texas rim protector Jaxson Hayes (6'11 220).


Is he a good communicator?
Does his voice project?
Can he think on the fly?
I realized that good defensive bigs need to be great communicators on the floor.

No idea. Draftniks whose scouting I like thought he would be a 2-3 year project and he seems to get lost a bit based on the one half I saw him play in (UT v. UNC). But he may be switchable as well as a rim protector, which is tougher to find.

Anyway, a kid to monitor and he should have a number of good matchups in the Big-12. Cuz right now I don't have any strong opinions about him.


I kind of like that Bruno Fernando's projection is so low right now. Didn't have the greatest game yesterday, but at least is showing signs of shooting ability. Needs help with passing work, but he's just a PnR dive man on offense anyway.

But, that dude can motor defensively, and I definitely think he has the length and the feet to switch to guards and show some effectiveness. More of an NBA body too. He seeks box outs, if anything, overrotates on defense (but I appreciate the awareness), and has solid steal/block/rebounding rates across the board.
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Mike@LG wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Solid updated mock from Wasserman at B/R: Link.

He has the Lakers taking raw Texas rim protector Jaxson Hayes (6'11 220).


Is he a good communicator?
Does his voice project?
Can he think on the fly?
I realized that good defensive bigs need to be great communicators on the floor.

No idea. Draftniks whose scouting I like thought he would be a 2-3 year project and he seems to get lost a bit based on the one half I saw him play in (UT v. UNC). But he may be switchable as well as a rim protector, which is tougher to find.

Anyway, a kid to monitor and he should have a number of good matchups in the Big-12. Cuz right now I don't have any strong opinions about him.


I kind of like that Bruno Fernando's projection is so low right now. Didn't have the greatest game yesterday, but at least is showing signs of shooting ability. Needs help with passing work, but he's just a PnR dive man on offense anyway.

But, that dude can motor defensively, and I definitely think he has the length and the feet to switch to guards and show some effectiveness. More of an NBA body too. He seeks box outs, if anything, overrotates on defense (but I appreciate the awareness), and has solid steal/block/rebounding rates across the board.


thanks guys.
So projects (albeit very early) is a Julius/Clint mix?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:49 am    Post subject:

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So projects (albeit very early) is a Julius/Clint mix?


More like Montrezl Harrell if he was taller. Harrell had all world strength for his size though.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:29 pm    Post subject:

Sags Konate had somewhat of a vintage "Sags" game today....16 Points, 9 Rebounds and 7 Blocks.

Two Handed Pin Against the Backboard!

Come fly with Sags

he has not been good overall this year....unless he starts showing more of this, I would stay away from him until maybe mid 2nd Round.
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Admiral Schofield was a beast today against Gonzaga....30 points (6 of 10 from 3).
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:17 am    Post subject:

Just a few thoughts on several players. Looking primarily at 2nd round or sleeper prospects.

Caleb Martin (Nevada): Athletic, good length and plays with body control. Plays wing. Has a Lonzo like shooting stroke. Good defensive potential. If he fixes his stroke would consider late 2nd round otherwise UDFA.

Cody Martin (Caleb's twin brother at Nevada): Athletic. good length and plays with body control. Plays PG but not sure if that is his NBA position. His shooting stroke is better than Caleb but needs to develop range. Both brothers seem to have good defensive potential. Both are already 23 and are athletically/physically near their max. Would consider Cody in the 2nd round.

Mike Daum (South Dakota State): Nice player. Fluid for his size, good length with average athleticism. A better scorer than Mo Wagner including 3pt shot. Stretch 4 or 5 depending on match ups. Defense is a question and need to see true height. One of my sleeper picks. Already 23 but could contribute in his first year.

Dino Radoncic (European): 19 year old lefty with nice shooting stroke. Skillful wing player. Will need time to develop but don't feel he is too far off. Has been playing professionally for awhile so is used to playing/practicing against grown men and competing in Intl. tournaments. Another sleeper pick. Would consider late 1st.

Marcus Lovett (1 year St. Johns now overseas): really good handles who can create for himself. Could develop into a very good shooter. Maybe 6 ft in shoes and slight of frame. Athletic with great body control. He should be able to score against NBA defenders. Would not mind taking a 2nd round flyer on him.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:07 pm    Post subject:

Mike Daum is the guy I would look at in the 2nd to UFA considering his shooting ability and 7'4" wingspan.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:11 pm    Post subject:

How do you guys handicap a guy who's playing in a program that ranks 233rd
in strength of schedule... vs a guy like Svi who played for the 2nd hardest SOS and shot even better?

His numbers are excellent, as well as that wingspan... but how can you know with that schedule?

I must say... just to draft someone who can shoot free throws would be a welcome relief though.
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How do you guys handicap a guy who's playing in a program that ranks 233rd
in strength of schedule... vs a guy like Svi who played for the 2nd hardest SOS and shot even better?

His numbers are excellent, as well as that wingspan... but how can you know with that schedule?

I must say... just to draft someone who can shoot free throws would be a welcome relief though.


Look at the games against quality comp.

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Mike Daum is the guy I would look at in the 2nd to UFA considering his shooting ability and 7'4" wingspan.


Already 23 years old tho. But holy (bleep), this guy is longer than Ingram.
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Mike Daum is the guy I would look at in the 2nd to UFA considering his shooting ability and 7'4" wingspan.


Already 23 years old tho. But holy (bleep), this guy is longer than Ingram.


I'm not drafting him for upside, so if he's available in the 2nd or UFA, that's the kind of pick that's a steal.

You basically want him to be Bertans that can rebound.
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Mike@LG wrote:
Mike Daum is the guy I would look at in the 2nd to UFA considering his shooting ability and 7'4" wingspan.


Already 23 years old tho. But holy (bleep), this guy is longer than Ingram.


I'm not drafting him for upside, so if he's available in the 2nd or UFA, that's the kind of pick that's a steal.

You basically want him to be Bertans that can rebound.


How is his mobility? Can he play wing?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:02 pm    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Megaton wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Mike Daum is the guy I would look at in the 2nd to UFA considering his shooting ability and 7'4" wingspan.


Already 23 years old tho. But holy (bleep), this guy is longer than Ingram.


I'm not drafting him for upside, so if he's available in the 2nd or UFA, that's the kind of pick that's a steal.

You basically want him to be Bertans that can rebound.


How is his mobility? Can he play wing?


Nope.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:02 pm    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Megaton wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Mike Daum is the guy I would look at in the 2nd to UFA considering his shooting ability and 7'4" wingspan.


Already 23 years old tho. But holy (bleep), this guy is longer than Ingram.


I'm not drafting him for upside, so if he's available in the 2nd or UFA, that's the kind of pick that's a steal.

You basically want him to be Bertans that can rebound.


How is his mobility? Can he play wing?


Nope.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:13 pm    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Megaton wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Mike Daum is the guy I would look at in the 2nd to UFA considering his shooting ability and 7'4" wingspan.


Already 23 years old tho. But holy (bleep), this guy is longer than Ingram.


I'm not drafting him for upside, so if he's available in the 2nd or UFA, that's the kind of pick that's a steal.

You basically want him to be Bertans that can rebound.


How is his mobility? Can he play wing?


Stretch 4 or 5. Shorter but more mobile than Mo.
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