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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:58 pm    Post subject:

@Jordan-esque, they brought in Culver and Hunter for the #4 pick. They also attended Reddish's pro-day. I dunno if they snuck Garland in for a workout though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:02 pm    Post subject:

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This isn't a big deal, but Zion has very little in common with Charles Barkley outside of rebounding (and Barkley was a better rebounder than Zion).

Zion is a 280-lb guard and should be compared to other guards.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:05 pm    Post subject:

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This isn't a big deal, but Zion has very little in common with Charles Barkley outside of rebounding (and Barkley was a better rebounder than Zion).

Zion is a 280-lb guard and should be compared to other guards.


Zion in Larry Johnson , go check some YouTube videos.

I'm waiting fro the next Shaun Kemp
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:10 pm    Post subject:

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@Jordan-esque, they brought in Culver and Hunter for the #4 pick. They also attended Reddish's pro-day. I dunno if they snuck Garland in for a workout though.


I do not recall them bringing Hunter in for a workout....when did that take place?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:13 pm    Post subject:

noahp45 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
This isn't a big deal, but Zion has very little in common with Charles Barkley outside of rebounding (and Barkley was a better rebounder than Zion).

Zion is a 280-lb guard and should be compared to other guards.


Zion in Larry Johnson , go check some YouTube videos.

I'm waiting fro the next Shaun Kemp


He's going to be better than Grand MaMa and Kemp. Zion has Kemp's athleticism but with an extra 30 lbs. He's also a fluid ball handler and playmaker. His shooting is already ahead of guys like Julius Randle and Aaron Gordon at the same age and look at the improvement they've had. By year 4 Zion might be the best player in the league.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:19 pm    Post subject:

noahp45 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
This isn't a big deal, but Zion has very little in common with Charles Barkley outside of rebounding (and Barkley was a better rebounder than Zion).

Zion is a 280-lb guard and should be compared to other guards.


Zion in Larry Johnson , go check some YouTube videos.

I'm waiting fro the next Shaun Kemp

No, he's more guard athletic than Grandmama and Kemp. Zion is the greatest pure athlete I've ever seen on a basketball court just ahead of Shaq and Lebron.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:21 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
This isn't a big deal, but Zion has very little in common with Charles Barkley outside of rebounding (and Barkley was a better rebounder than Zion).

Zion is a 280-lb guard and should be compared to other guards.


Zion in Larry Johnson , go check some YouTube videos.

I'm waiting fro the next Shaun Kemp


He's going to be better than Grand MaMa and Kemp. Zion has Kemp's athleticism but with an extra 30 lbs. He's also a fluid ball handler and playmaker. His shooting is already ahead of guys like Julius Randle and Aaron Gordon at the same age and look at the improvement they've had. By year 4 Zion might be the best player in the league.

I tell people online and IRL to look at Zion's lean when he goes into attack mode - any human being who can go nearly parallel to the floor is already a freak, but Zion is doing it at 280 pounds.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:57 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
This isn't a big deal, but Zion has very little in common with Charles Barkley outside of rebounding (and Barkley was a better rebounder than Zion).


He is pre back injury Larry Johnson imo.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:59 pm    Post subject:

I love Zion (an SC Kid) but some of the hyperbole here is getting out of hand.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:00 pm    Post subject:

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I love Zion (an SC Kid) but some of the hyperbole here is getting out of hand.


The best player in league in 4 years take is laying it on thick lol. I think he is star in the making though .
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:01 pm    Post subject:

woops wrong thread

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:06 pm    Post subject:

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I love Zion (an SC Kid) but some of the hyperbole here is getting out of hand.


The best player in league in 4 years take is laying it on thick lol. I think he is star in the making though .


I agree. Star and future best player in the league? Possible. In 4 years? Not likely.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:11 pm    Post subject:

Hydro21 wrote:
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I love Zion (an SC Kid) but some of the hyperbole here is getting out of hand.


The best player in league in 4 years take is laying it on thick lol. I think he is star in the making though .


I agree....if everything goes as expected, he will likely be an All Star or even All NBA level player.....but like all rookies, guy has flaws to his game that will have to be improved to get to that level, and that will take years of work/development. A lot can go wrong or right in that time period. Also, it is almost impossible to predict a 19 year old will reach the level of HOF or all time great....bet against it 100% of the time, and you will likely be correct 99% of the time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:18 pm    Post subject:

Zion's the best two way prospect since Lebron, even better than AD. Like Lebron, Zion might be arguable for best in the league by year 4-5.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:36 pm    Post subject:

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Zion's the best two way prospect since Lebron, even better than AD. Like Lebron, Zion might be arguable for best in the league by year 4-5.


Every year there’s a new “savior”. Remember when guys here used to talk about high school Ben Simmons as the next big thing. He’s good, but he’s no where near a GOAT. People saying Zion is the next Barkley must have forgotten how good Barkley really was. If he’s Philly Barkley, then the young man is well on his way, but that’s a big if.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:42 pm    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
The Juggernaut wrote:
Zion's the best two way prospect since Lebron, even better than AD. Like Lebron, Zion might be arguable for best in the league by year 4-5.


Every year there’s a new “savior”. Remember when guys here used to talk about high school Ben Simmons as the next big thing. He’s good, but he’s no where near a GOAT. People saying Zion is the next Barkley must have forgotten how good Barkley really was. If he’s Philly Barkley, then the young man is well on his way, but that’s a big if.


You have to watch him. He's different than those other guys like Simmons. Zion's built like an All Pro Defensive end but has the nimbleness of a guard and a non stop motor on both ends.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:50 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
The Juggernaut wrote:
Zion's the best two way prospect since Lebron, even better than AD. Like Lebron, Zion might be arguable for best in the league by year 4-5.


Every year there’s a new “savior”. Remember when guys here used to talk about high school Ben Simmons as the next big thing. He’s good, but he’s no where near a GOAT. People saying Zion is the next Barkley must have forgotten how good Barkley really was. If he’s Philly Barkley, then the young man is well on his way, but that’s a big if.


You have to watch him. He's different than those other guys like Simmons. Zion's built like an All Pro Defensive end but has the nimbleness of a guard and a non stop motor on both ends.


Zion is what you'd get from combining (style, not talent level) AD and Randle but with Ingram's handles...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:10 pm    Post subject:

@Mike

“Time Lord” Robert Williams? I’m dead 😵!

Saw your response on twitter.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:46 pm    Post subject:

Garland working out with LeBron

https://twitter.com/lakersempire/status/1137423436324777990?s=21
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:14 pm    Post subject:

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Garland working out with LeBron

https://twitter.com/lakersempire/status/1137423436324777990?s=21


Interesting. At least we know who Klutch's pick is. I hope the FO agrees, cuz I really like Garland @ 4.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:50 pm    Post subject:

Hate those lethargic workout vids, quarter pace moves set to a slow beat proving nothing. Feels like Klutch trying to lend him some credibility.

Has he actually worked out for us at all? Would like to know we've checked the dude can actually clear 6 inches off the floor before taking a punt on him.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:17 am    Post subject:

Zion the new Larry Johnson
Artes the new Rodman
Kobe the new Jordan
Ball the new Nash
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:28 am    Post subject:

noahp45 wrote:
Zion the new Larry Johnson
Artes the new Rodman
Kobe the new Jordan
Ball the new Nash



Ball a "can't shoot" but "can defend" nash...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:38 am    Post subject:

deal wrote:
noahp45 wrote:
Zion the new Larry Johnson
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Kobe the new Jordan
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Ball a "can't shoot" but "can defend" nash...



Nash was a horrible shooter his first few years
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:58 am    Post subject:

Is Zions defense really that good?
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