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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:46 am    Post subject:

He might be turning into the modern day Howard Hughes. Its not the smoking marijuana that is concerning, its the fact that he is probably abusing prescription drugs and doing hard drugs on the side.
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He might be turning into the modern day Howard Hughes. Its not the smoking marijuana that is concerning, its the fact that he is probably abusing prescription drugs and doing hard drugs on the side.


i also think he is seeing hookers as well
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He might be turning into the modern day Howard Hughes. Its not the smoking marijuana that is concerning, its the fact that he is probably abusing prescription drugs and doing hard drugs on the side.



Looks like he's coming off the rails
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In my opinion a CEO that doesn't have respect for his shareholders is trouble.

His "interview" made short sellers $550 million supposedly and mom and pop tesla investor aren't short on the stock.

Be crazy in private.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:04 pm    Post subject:

Podcast was a great listen.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:51 pm    Post subject:

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He might be turning into the modern day Howard Hughes. Its not the smoking marijuana that is concerning, its the fact that he is probably abusing prescription drugs and doing hard drugs on the side.


i also think he is seeing hookers as well


These kind of unfounded accusations, rumors, damaging.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:56 pm    Post subject:

jonnybravo wrote:
Podcast was a great listen.


Yup. Very interesting and unique person. He is simply wired differently than most of us. I find it fascinating that people are reacting to his using a small amount of cannabis. Wondering why they are not disturbed by him sipping whiskey. Same difference.
If people want to invest in a safe company, find one that isn't run by such a quirky human. There are many thousands of public companies run by CEOs that act according to established business etiquette. Choose one of them for your investment.
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999 wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
He might be turning into the modern day Howard Hughes. Its not the smoking marijuana that is concerning, its the fact that he is probably abusing prescription drugs and doing hard drugs on the side.


i also think he is seeing hookers as well


Hookers? Probably not. High end escorts, could be. Lots of wealthy, successful men do because it makes a certain amount of sense.

As an extremely wealthy person I know has often said, "You don't pay escorts for sex. You pay them to leave you alone afterward."
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999 wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
He might be turning into the modern day Howard Hughes. Its not the smoking marijuana that is concerning, its the fact that he is probably abusing prescription drugs and doing hard drugs on the side.


i also think he is seeing hookers as well


Hookers? Probably not. High end escorts, could be. Lots of wealthy, successful men do because it makes a certain amount of sense.

As an extremely wealthy person I know has often said, "You don't pay escorts for sex. You pay them to leave you alone afterward."


I told you that in confidence.
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adkindo wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
999 wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
He might be turning into the modern day Howard Hughes. Its not the smoking marijuana that is concerning, its the fact that he is probably abusing prescription drugs and doing hard drugs on the side.


i also think he is seeing hookers as well


Hookers? Probably not. High end escorts, could be. Lots of wealthy, successful men do because it makes a certain amount of sense.

As an extremely wealthy person I know has often said, "You don't pay escorts for sex. You pay them to leave you alone afterward."


I told you that in confidence.


And I was very careful not to mention you by name until you blew it.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:21 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
adkindo wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
999 wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
He might be turning into the modern day Howard Hughes. Its not the smoking marijuana that is concerning, its the fact that he is probably abusing prescription drugs and doing hard drugs on the side.


i also think he is seeing hookers as well


Hookers? Probably not. High end escorts, could be. Lots of wealthy, successful men do because it makes a certain amount of sense.

As an extremely wealthy person I know has often said, "You don't pay escorts for sex. You pay them to leave you alone afterward."


I told you that in confidence.


And I was very careful not to mention you by name until you blew it.


Wait. Who was blowing whom?
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Tesla is ‘headed for the graveyard,’ predicts former GM exec Bob Lutz

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“They will never make money on the Model 3 because the cost is way too high. He’s got 9,000 people in that assembly plant producing less than 150,000 cars a year. The whole thing just doesn’t compute. It’s an automobile company that is headed for the graveyard,” he said on “Closing Bell. ”

Lutz’s comments come after news of a criminal probe into Tesla, as well as a new competitor hitting the market in the form of Audi’s new electric car.


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“Tesla has no … tech advantage, no software advantage, no battery advantage. No advantages whatsoever,” he said.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:28 am    Post subject:

Regardless of what happens to Tesla, we would not be where we are with electric cars, and none of these other companies would be anywhere near where they are without Tesla pushing the envelope. They've also open sourced their patents. I'll be sad to see Tesla go if that's indeed what happens.

Seeing the gloating by the former CEO of GM, a company that honestly shouldn't exist today after what happened during the great recession, makes my stomach turn. Sometimes the world isn't fair.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:44 pm    Post subject:

I am not a fan of Elon as a person. He's doing some great things technologically but he seems like an (bleep). Having said that, many of you seem to be very naive as to what happens in cities in Thailand like the one the ex pat lives in. There is a very high likelihood that dude dabbles in under aged sex over there. Pedos are usually people that you would never expect.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:03 pm    Post subject:

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I am not a fan of Elon as a person. He's doing some great things technologically but he seems like an (bleep). Having said that, many of you seem to be very naive as to what happens in cities in Thailand like the one the ex pat lives in. There is a very high likelihood that dude dabbles in under aged sex over there. Pedos are usually people that you would never expect.


it comes down to you simply can't make such a serious and disgusting claim about another human without evidence.....especially someone with such a large megaphone as Musk.
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I am not a fan of Elon as a person. He's doing some great things technologically but he seems like an (bleep). Having said that, many of you seem to be very naive as to what happens in cities in Thailand like the one the ex pat lives in. There is a very high likelihood that dude dabbles in under aged sex over there. Pedos are usually people that you would never expect.


The sex trafficking aspect of Thailand is no secret, but to assert that any random guy that is in Thailand is there because he is a pedophile is asinine.
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I am not a fan of Elon as a person. He's doing some great things technologically but he seems like an (bleep). Having said that, many of you seem to be very naive as to what happens in cities in Thailand like the one the ex pat lives in. There is a very high likelihood that dude dabbles in under aged sex over there. Pedos are usually people that you would never expect.


The sex trafficking aspect of Thailand is no secret, but to assert that any random guy that is in Thailand is there because he is a pedophile is asinine.


Not to mention the fact that the guy is a major cave diver/explorer, and that's something to do with his location?
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DaMuleRules wrote:
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I am not a fan of Elon as a person. He's doing some great things technologically but he seems like an (bleep). Having said that, many of you seem to be very naive as to what happens in cities in Thailand like the one the ex pat lives in. There is a very high likelihood that dude dabbles in under aged sex over there. Pedos are usually people that you would never expect.


The sex trafficking aspect of Thailand is no secret, but to assert that any random guy that is in Thailand is there because he is a pedophile is asinine.


It's not asinine when you know the region he's living in Thailand. I personally know people that have experience in these areas of Thailand working to help sex slaves in Thailand they have told me it's more rampant than the official reports suggest. I don't trust ex-Pats living in those regions.
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It's not asinine when you know the region he's living in Thailand. I personally know people that have experience in these areas of Thailand working to help sex slaves in Thailand they have told me it's more rampant than the official reports suggest. I don't trust ex-Pats living in those regions.

Sure, I could believe, statistically people who travel to a certain region of Thailand are more likely to pay for sex (legal aged or not) than people who travel to say ... Singapore or somewhere in Bangladesh.

But that's not enough for me to think Elon's a pedo. There could be other reasons why he likes that region of Thailand.
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It's not asinine when you know the region he's living in Thailand. I personally know people that have experience in these areas of Thailand working to help sex slaves in Thailand they have told me it's more rampant than the official reports suggest. I don't trust ex-Pats living in those regions.

Sure, I could believe, statistically people who travel to a certain region of Thailand are more likely to pay for sex (legal aged or not) than people who travel to say ... Singapore or somewhere in Bangladesh.

But that's not enough for me to think Elon's a pedo. There could be other reasons why he likes that region of Thailand.


I think you missed something.....Elon claimed another guy, British expat I think was a pedo because he lived there.
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The Juggernaut wrote:
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The Juggernaut wrote:
I am not a fan of Elon as a person. He's doing some great things technologically but he seems like an (bleep). Having said that, many of you seem to be very naive as to what happens in cities in Thailand like the one the ex pat lives in. There is a very high likelihood that dude dabbles in under aged sex over there. Pedos are usually people that you would never expect.


The sex trafficking aspect of Thailand is no secret, but to assert that any random guy that is in Thailand is there because he is a pedophile is asinine.


It's not asinine when you know the region he's living in Thailand. I personally know people that have experience in these areas of Thailand working to help sex slaves in Thailand they have told me it's more rampant than the official reports suggest. I don't trust ex-Pats living in those regions.


By all means, let's just accuse random people of being pedophiles simply because of where they choose to be located. :rolls eyes:
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It's not asinine when you know the region he's living in Thailand. I personally know people that have experience in these areas of Thailand working to help sex slaves in Thailand they have told me it's more rampant than the official reports suggest. I don't trust ex-Pats living in those regions.

Sure, I could believe, statistically people who travel to a certain region of Thailand are more likely to pay for sex (legal aged or not) than people who travel to say ... Singapore or somewhere in Bangladesh.

But that's not enough for me to think Elon's a pedo. There could be other reasons why he likes that region of Thailand.


I think you missed something.....Elon claimed another guy, British expat I think was a pedo because he lived there.


Oh ok. Well, whomever lives in Thailand. Doesn't make them a pedo. Even though I understand there are areas in the country that are known for pedophilia.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:50 pm    Post subject:

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Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/05/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-calls-british-cave-diver-child-rapist.html


now here's the truth. the diver should be thanked for saving those kids. But, anytime I see foreigners in these areas of thailand i automatically think "sex tourism" all the way to messing with the kids because we know this is where people go to more or less get away with that kind of behavior. does that mean this the diver? NO. but i would go out on a limb and say its a 50/50 chance that elon is right about this guy. people dont want to believe it because he did a good deed. Folks forget, the catholic church was molesting boys and girls left and right. yet they still did a lot for a lot of communities/countries in general around the world. a right does not wipe out a wrong.
So i guess we'll have to see when the guy sues him officially. I hope for the guys sake that he isnt a kiddy rapist. Because if he is, all of his skeletons are about to come out of the closet.


look at it like this. This guy going there is like some guy going to vegas and elon calling that guy out and saying "he gambled there." now he could've gone to some shows, he could've hit some clubs up, he could've done a host of things. but there's a 50% chance he did actually at minimum pull a slot lever or two while there for the weekend. thats where people go to do that kind of stuff.


Or, you can say he's been in Thailand before he rescued the kids and Elon didn't call him out.

After he rescued the kids, then he got accused by Elon.

So if you're going to do a good deed and then get called out, why do a good deed?

We know that if he never rescued those kids, he never would have been accused by Elon.

Not all old male foreigners in Thailand are child perverts. I don't know if I want to dissuade the next old foreigner from helping out someone because they don't want to be accused of being a child predator.

This will certainly make them think twice - in Thailand or other countries, and that's sad


Another question I have is - if Elon Musk knew that this cave diver was a child rapist - why did he sit on this information? Why not out him when he got the information?

Think about it,

Jul 14 - cave diver says his idea of a submarine to rescue the kids is a PR stunt

Jul 15 - Elon Musk calls him a pedo

How long has he had this information? Or is it just a random accusation? If the cave diver doesn't call his submarine a PR stunt, then Elon wouldn't out him as a pedo?

Ridiculous

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Musk called Unsworth a “single white guy from England who’s been traveling to or living in Thailand for 30 to 40 years”, alleging that he had moved to Chiang Rai “for a child bride who was about 12 years old at the time”. He asserted that the city was “renowned for child sex-trafficking”.


BuzzFeed reported that it had investigated the allegations and Unsworth’s background, but could not verify any of the claims and said that it was unclear where the allegations originated.

Musk’s email to BuzzFeed, which was a response to Unsworth’s latest legal threats, said: “I suggest that you call people you know in Thailand, find out what’s actually going on and stop defending child rapists, you (bleep) (bleep) … As for this alleged threat of a lawsuit, which magically appeared when I raised the issue (nothing was sent or raised beforehand), I (bleep) hope he sues me.”

BuzzFeed said it could not locate any UK criminal records for Unsworth, 63, and also spoke with his girlfriend, who said she was 40 and had been with him for seven years.


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I am not a fan of Elon as a person. He's doing some great things technologically but he seems like an (bleep). Having said that, many of you seem to be very naive as to what happens in cities in Thailand like the one the ex pat lives in. There is a very high likelihood that dude dabbles in under aged sex over there. Pedos are usually people that you would never expect.


The sex trafficking aspect of Thailand is no secret, but to assert that any random guy that is in Thailand is there because he is a pedophile is asinine.


It's not asinine when you know the region he's living in Thailand. I personally know people that have experience in these areas of Thailand working to help sex slaves in Thailand they have told me it's more rampant than the official reports suggest. I don't trust ex-Pats living in those regions.


By all means, let's just accuse random people of being pedophiles simply because of where they choose to be located. :rolls eyes:


No, not all random people. Just the ones that save lives. The rest can remain anonymous.

The standard we expect in America - innocent until proven guilty

The standard we give to other people - guilty until proven innocent
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:24 pm    Post subject:

SEC charges Tesla, Elon Musk with fraud
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/27/tesla-falls-4percent-on-report-elon-musk-sued-by-sec.html

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NATURE OF PROCEEDING AND RELIEF SOUGHT 7. The Commission brings this action against Musk pursuant to Section 21(d) of the Exchange Act [15 U.S.C. § 78u(d)] to enjoin the transactions, acts, practices, and courses of business alleged in this Complaint and to seek orders of disgorgement, along with prejudgment interest, civil penalties, and an officer and director bar against Musk, and such further relief as the Court may deem appropriate.
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