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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:56 pm    Post subject: SI: Top 100 players in the NBA

BI listed at 75, Lonzo is at 100, Kuzma is on the snub list...

This is one of the worse player ratings I have seen from Sports Illusrated.

https://www.si.com/nba/2018/09/10/top-100-nba-players-2019-lebron-james-stephen-curry-dirk-nowitzki?utm_source=reddit.com
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:57 pm    Post subject:

lol, how is lonzo better than kuz so far? just passing.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:57 pm    Post subject:

Meh. Same ol' story: some publication wants clicks, so they rag on the Lakers. No need to get worked up. Good thing the games aren't decided by blogger/writer rankings.

Just curious though, where were they at last year?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:06 pm    Post subject:

Randle/Barton/Josh Richardson/Teague being ranked higher then BI and Lonzo is ridiculous..
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:46 pm    Post subject:

Who cares what they say? More satisfaction to be gained when our guys ball out this year. Lower expectations just allows more room to shatter them.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:51 pm    Post subject:

TheBlackMamba wrote:
Who cares what they say? More satisfaction to be gained when our guys ball out this year. Lower expectations just allows more room to shatter them.


That list isn’t Sports Illustraed setting lower expectations for our guys, there is no way Teague is better then Ball, the Wolves tried to trade him last year at the TD, that list is just stupid and ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:55 pm    Post subject:

It's almost time for ESPN to come out with their NBArank as well. Although they used to go all the way to #500, and now they stop at #100 like SI does.

I'd say SI was arguably fair to Lonzo and BI, but a lot of good players around the NBA are getting snubbed. Quite a few of their picks have no business getting a top 70 ranking. And when Lonzo displays his 40% three point shooting this year, he's going straight to top 40.

And yeah Kuzma belongs in the top 100. I also think Hart's gonna take up residency in the top 100 come mid season and stay there a while as well, just like the rest of our young guns.

Not setting my sights high or anything, of course.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:55 pm    Post subject:

Where's Spencer? Top 50?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:09 pm    Post subject:

^they make a special category beyond one and below zero for him, right?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:26 pm    Post subject:

SI is projecting Randle (#72) only a marginally better player for the upcoming season compared to BI (#75). I have no problem with that assessment. Ingram may eventually become a higher impact player than Randle after another year's seasoning, but he's still a project (rawness) in the way that Randle was a year back. I see the two guys reversing order and moving up in SI's opinion in next year's article.

Rating Lonzo #100 is an obvious move towards click-bait for the sponsor. Sure the kid's got potential, but so far, what's he really done in this league ? Not much, but he's got a rare feel for the game for his age, and he's ripe to improve. Thank goodness, too; there's a lot he needs to improve upon (shooting, dribble control, resistence to recurring injury.)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:32 pm    Post subject:

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SI is projecting Randle (#72) only a marginally better player for the upcoming season compared to BI (#75). I have no problem with that assessment. Ingram may eventually become a higher impact player than Randle after another year's seasoning, but he's still a project (rawness) in the way that Randle was a year back. I see the two guys reversing order and moving up in SI's opinion in next year's article.

Rating Lonzo #100 is an obvious move towards click-bait for the sponsor. Sure the kid's got potential, but so far, what's he really done in this league ? Not much, but he's got a rare feel for the game for his age, and he's ripe to improve. Thank goodness, too; there's a lot he needs to improve upon (shooting, dribble control, resistence to recurring injury.)


I like that you tell it like it is and that makes me respect you more, but realistic speaking there is no way Randle is gonna be a better player then BI in the up coming season, even if he puts up better stats his Impact on the floor is greater then Randle’s... he probably won’t even get enough touches in New Orleans with Mirotic/Davis/Jrue getting buck of the shots.

As for Ball, you say what he hasn’t done in this league? I’m gonna take a good guess and say that for a 19 year old he put up historical numbers as a rookie.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:34 pm    Post subject:

Screw SI's top 100 players, I want IG's top 100.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject:

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Given the wide variety of candidates involved and the deep analytical resources available, no single, definitive criterion was used to form this list. Instead, rankings were assigned based on a fluid combination of subjective assessment and objective data. This list is an attempt to evaluate each player in a vacuum, independent of his current team context as much as possible. A player's prospects beyond the 2018-19 season did not play a part in the ranking process.


Well, duh.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject:

SuperboyReformed wrote:
lol, how is lonzo better than kuz so far? just passing.


Haha. I love it.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:54 pm    Post subject:

SuperboyReformed wrote:
lol, how is lonzo better than kuz so far? just passing.

In every way except scoring. Depends on what floats your boat.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:02 pm    Post subject:

Also, I have to get down to Cousins (#68) before I think seriously about not taking Lonzo over guys ranked ahead of him. Like, what does Dejounte Murray do better than Lonzo than hit his FTs?

And what a ridiculous counting stats-ish list. The Ringer at least makes an effort to look at TS% and (bleep) like that.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:11 pm    Post subject:

At least no one's pissed anymore that Russell and JC didn't make the stupid list.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:13 pm    Post subject:

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At least no one's pissed anymore that Russell and JC didn't make the stupid list.

(bleep) you
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:19 pm    Post subject:

SuperboyReformed wrote:
lol, how is lonzo better than kuz so far? just passing.


Kuzma is still the 27th pick that's why
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:34 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
SuperboyReformed wrote:
lol, how is lonzo better than kuz so far? just passing.

In every way except scoring. Depends on what floats your boat.

lol. this is exactly how a lot of fans think. scoring is everything. zo has a lot to prove. for one, that he can shoot as good as a good high school player.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:52 pm    Post subject:

Until Zo can shoot, drive to the basket, and make free throws, he will be like a great Shakespearean actor with irritable bowel syndrome. Doesn't matter how outstanding your diction is, how deeply you can inhabit a character, how you can move the audience to tears if you uncontrollably fart and sh1t your pants on stage.

I really do like Lonzo, but let's not act like he doesn't need to master these fundamentals this season.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:57 pm    Post subject:

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Until Zo can shoot, drive to the basket, and make free throws, he will be like a great Shakespearean actor with irritable bowel syndrome. Doesn't matter how outstanding your diction is, how deeply you can inhabit a character, how you can move the audience to tears if you uncontrollably fart and sh1t your pants on stage.

I really do like Lonzo, but let's not act like he doesn't need to master these fundamentals this season.


Haha that’s some funny ish.. yeah what you posted is correct but let’s also not ignore the Impact he had this season, he played only 50 games and in most of those games he changed the complexion of the game with his good D and transition passes.

You know Teague being listed higher then Lonzo is absurd and criminal like, most of the Wolve fans wanted to get rid of him, he’s a nice solid player but he isn’t a game changer.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:49 pm    Post subject:

Sentient Meat wrote:
Until Zo can shoot, drive to the basket, and make free throws, he will be like a great Shakespearean actor with irritable bowel syndrome. Doesn't matter how outstanding your diction is, how deeply you can inhabit a character, how you can move the audience to tears if you uncontrollably fart and sh1t your pants on stage.

I really do like Lonzo, but let's not act like he doesn't need to master these fundamentals this season.

*insert Ingram who wasn't particularly good at anything*
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:49 pm    Post subject:

SuperboyReformed wrote:
lol, how is lonzo better than kuz so far? just passing.


Lonzo is better than Kuz at everything other than scoring. He's a very good defender, where Kuz is a poor one. He's light years ahead as a passer, and a better rebounder despite being a smaller and playing point guard. His problems shooting last year were real but he was a good shooter at other levels and I think the general consensus is that he'll figure that out.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:51 pm    Post subject:

SuperboyReformed wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
SuperboyReformed wrote:
lol, how is lonzo better than kuz so far? just passing.

In every way except scoring. Depends on what floats your boat.

lol. this is exactly how a lot of fans think. scoring is everything. zo has a lot to prove. for one, that he can shoot as good as a good high school player.

Conversely, Kuz has a lot to prove, like rebounding and defending better than Jordan Clarkson's sister.
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