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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:56 pm    Post subject:

Can we get Zubac's highlights, please? Is CaChooka around?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:45 am    Post subject:

I am from Croatia and watched Zubac last night. He was quite good. He get few really stupid fouls at the start of the game , some of them not his fault, ref were really bad.
He moved really well, looks sharp and quick. He protected the rim really really good few times. I know for three blocks. Maybe he had more. He is looking more explosive around the rim also.
We are playing really bad with the bad coach and its hard for our players to show everything they have. Especially Zubac and Zizic.
In general he had a nice game.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:56 am    Post subject:

They're showing highlights of both of them on Access Sportsnet. Show repeats at 8am. They're highlights starts around 45-50 min.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:07 am    Post subject:

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I am from Croatia and watched Zubac last night. He was quite good. He get few really stupid fouls at the start of the game , some of them not his fault, ref were really bad.
He moved really well, looks sharp and quick. He protected the rim really really good few times. I know for three blocks. Maybe he had more. He is looking more explosive around the rim also.
We are playing really bad with the bad coach and its hard for our players to show everything they have. Especially Zubac and Zizic.
In general he had a nice game.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:35 am    Post subject:

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I am from Croatia and watched Zubac last night. He was quite good. He get few really stupid fouls at the start of the game , some of them not his fault, ref were really bad.
He moved really well, looks sharp and quick. He protected the rim really really good few times. I know for three blocks. Maybe he had more. He is looking more explosive around the rim also.
We are playing really bad with the bad coach and its hard for our players to show everything they have. Especially Zubac and Zizic.
In general he had a nice game.


Thanks very excited to see big Improvement from Zu this year
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:38 am    Post subject:

https://www.nba.com/lakers/news/180914-svi-mykhailiuk-stars-ukraine-upset-over-spain
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:27 pm    Post subject:

Everytime i see Svi play he always shows me he's more than just a shooter, he is just a good well rounded basketball player. What a draft steal. Love this kid already.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:01 pm    Post subject:

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Everytime i see Svi play he always shows me he's more than just a shooter, he is just a good well rounded basketball player. What a draft steal. Love this kid already.


Same feeling I had last year after see in person at summer League, last year Kuz, this year SVI.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:35 pm    Post subject:



Zu highlights again Lithuania. He had a very good game. Croatia is a super talented team, but just awful coaches.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:58 pm    Post subject:

Zu looks much leaner and quicker. Light on his feet. Change of diet?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:37 pm    Post subject:

Zu looks good.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:34 pm    Post subject:

Shaq4fon wrote:
https://youtu.be/ziknuRvDq4E

Zu highlights again Lithuania. He had a very good game. Croatia is a super talented team, but just awful coaches.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:38 pm    Post subject:

Shaq4fon wrote:
https://youtu.be/ziknuRvDq4E

Zu highlights again Lithuania. He had a very good game. Croatia is a super talented team, but just awful coaches.

Thanks, bro. Man, he looks loads better than last year. Looks primed to make the kind of leap this year that we expected would come last year. I still think McGee starts since the goal is to play faster, but any production he can provide in spurts would go a long way in helping this team ascend to legitimate contender status.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:05 pm    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
Shaq4fon wrote:
https://youtu.be/ziknuRvDq4E

Zu highlights again Lithuania. He had a very good game. Croatia is a super talented team, but just awful coaches.

Thanks, bro. Man, he looks loads better than last year. Looks primed to make the kind of leap this year that we expected would come last year. I still think McGee starts since the goal is to play faster, but any production he can provide in spurts would go a long way in helping this team ascend to legitimate contender status.


Now we know why the Lakers basically choose Zubac over Thomas Bryant even if Bryant has nice potential, Zu is a legit talent who just hasn’t been able to pan out in the NBA yet.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:24 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
Judah wrote:
Shaq4fon wrote:
https://youtu.be/ziknuRvDq4E

Zu highlights again Lithuania. He had a very good game. Croatia is a super talented team, but just awful coaches.

Thanks, bro. Man, he looks loads better than last year. Looks primed to make the kind of leap this year that we expected would come last year. I still think McGee starts since the goal is to play faster, but any production he can provide in spurts would go a long way in helping this team ascend to legitimate contender status.


Now we know why the Lakers basically choose Zubac over Thomas Bryant even if Bryant has nice potential, Zu is a legit talent who just hasn’t been able to pan out in the NBA yet.

I don't know if they necessarily viewed it as choosing Zubac over Bryant. Pincus did speculate that they kept Zubac because it saved them money. On Bryant's end, maybe after a year of seeing his development up close, there were things about him that were either red flags, or they just weren't convinced that he would develop into the player they were hoping he'd be. Both of those could be true.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:40 pm    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Judah wrote:
Shaq4fon wrote:
https://youtu.be/ziknuRvDq4E

Zu highlights again Lithuania. He had a very good game. Croatia is a super talented team, but just awful coaches.

Thanks, bro. Man, he looks loads better than last year. Looks primed to make the kind of leap this year that we expected would come last year. I still think McGee starts since the goal is to play faster, but any production he can provide in spurts would go a long way in helping this team ascend to legitimate contender status.


Now we know why the Lakers basically choose Zubac over Thomas Bryant even if Bryant has nice potential, Zu is a legit talent who just hasn’t been able to pan out in the NBA yet.

I don't know if they necessarily viewed it as choosing Zubac over Bryant. Pincus did speculate that they kept Zubac because it saved them money. On Bryant's end, maybe after a year of seeing his development up close, there were things about him that were either red flags, or they just weren't convinced that he would develop into the player they were hoping he'd be. Both of those could be true.


They kept Zubac because he can actually help us it wasn’t just about saving money, we couldn’t afford to lose him considering our thin front line and the fact that we couldn’t come to a agreement with a better big in Noel or Cousins.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:45 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
Judah wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Judah wrote:
Shaq4fon wrote:
https://youtu.be/ziknuRvDq4E

Zu highlights again Lithuania. He had a very good game. Croatia is a super talented team, but just awful coaches.

Thanks, bro. Man, he looks loads better than last year. Looks primed to make the kind of leap this year that we expected would come last year. I still think McGee starts since the goal is to play faster, but any production he can provide in spurts would go a long way in helping this team ascend to legitimate contender status.


Now we know why the Lakers basically choose Zubac over Thomas Bryant even if Bryant has nice potential, Zu is a legit talent who just hasn’t been able to pan out in the NBA yet.

I don't know if they necessarily viewed it as choosing Zubac over Bryant. Pincus did speculate that they kept Zubac because it saved them money. On Bryant's end, maybe after a year of seeing his development up close, there were things about him that were either red flags, or they just weren't convinced that he would develop into the player they were hoping he'd be. Both of those could be true.


They kept Zubac because he can actually help us it wasn’t just about saving money, we couldn’t afford to lose him considering our thin front line and the fact that we couldn’t come to a agreement with a better big in Noel or Cousins.

How do you know that was the reason?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:22 pm    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Judah wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Judah wrote:
Shaq4fon wrote:
https://youtu.be/ziknuRvDq4E

Zu highlights again Lithuania. He had a very good game. Croatia is a super talented team, but just awful coaches.

Thanks, bro. Man, he looks loads better than last year. Looks primed to make the kind of leap this year that we expected would come last year. I still think McGee starts since the goal is to play faster, but any production he can provide in spurts would go a long way in helping this team ascend to legitimate contender status.


Now we know why the Lakers basically choose Zubac over Thomas Bryant even if Bryant has nice potential, Zu is a legit talent who just hasn’t been able to pan out in the NBA yet.

I don't know if they necessarily viewed it as choosing Zubac over Bryant. Pincus did speculate that they kept Zubac because it saved them money. On Bryant's end, maybe after a year of seeing his development up close, there were things about him that were either red flags, or they just weren't convinced that he would develop into the player they were hoping he'd be. Both of those could be true.


They kept Zubac because he can actually help us it wasn’t just about saving money, we couldn’t afford to lose him considering our thin front line and the fact that we couldn’t come to a agreement with a better big in Noel or Cousins.

How do you know that was the reason?


Because Zu is actually a talented big who hasn’t reached his potential, I would have loved to see them add another big though but I am fine with a Zu/McGee front-line.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:55 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
Judah wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Judah wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Judah wrote:
Shaq4fon wrote:
https://youtu.be/ziknuRvDq4E

Zu highlights again Lithuania. He had a very good game. Croatia is a super talented team, but just awful coaches.

Thanks, bro. Man, he looks loads better than last year. Looks primed to make the kind of leap this year that we expected would come last year. I still think McGee starts since the goal is to play faster, but any production he can provide in spurts would go a long way in helping this team ascend to legitimate contender status.


Now we know why the Lakers basically choose Zubac over Thomas Bryant even if Bryant has nice potential, Zu is a legit talent who just hasn’t been able to pan out in the NBA yet.

I don't know if they necessarily viewed it as choosing Zubac over Bryant. Pincus did speculate that they kept Zubac because it saved them money. On Bryant's end, maybe after a year of seeing his development up close, there were things about him that were either red flags, or they just weren't convinced that he would develop into the player they were hoping he'd be. Both of those could be true.


They kept Zubac because he can actually help us it wasn’t just about saving money, we couldn’t afford to lose him considering our thin front line and the fact that we couldn’t come to a agreement with a better big in Noel or Cousins.

How do you know that was the reason?


Because Zu is actually a talented big who hasn’t reached his potential, I would have loved to see them add another big though but I am fine with a Zu/McGee front-line.

But again, how do you know that the Lakers brought him back primarily because of what they think he can contribute, as opposed to saving money? You don't. He did not have a good season. That's why it was surprising that they brought him back. You can't say with a straight face that they saw how he played last season and became convinced that they couldn't afford to let him get away. Don't you think there's a reason they don't talk him up or ever mention him as part of the young core? They talk up every single young player they have except him. I mean, that's not a coincidence.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:58 pm    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Judah wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Judah wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Judah wrote:
Shaq4fon wrote:
https://youtu.be/ziknuRvDq4E

Zu highlights again Lithuania. He had a very good game. Croatia is a super talented team, but just awful coaches.

Thanks, bro. Man, he looks loads better than last year. Looks primed to make the kind of leap this year that we expected would come last year. I still think McGee starts since the goal is to play faster, but any production he can provide in spurts would go a long way in helping this team ascend to legitimate contender status.


Now we know why the Lakers basically choose Zubac over Thomas Bryant even if Bryant has nice potential, Zu is a legit talent who just hasn’t been able to pan out in the NBA yet.

I don't know if they necessarily viewed it as choosing Zubac over Bryant. Pincus did speculate that they kept Zubac because it saved them money. On Bryant's end, maybe after a year of seeing his development up close, there were things about him that were either red flags, or they just weren't convinced that he would develop into the player they were hoping he'd be. Both of those could be true.


They kept Zubac because he can actually help us it wasn’t just about saving money, we couldn’t afford to lose him considering our thin front line and the fact that we couldn’t come to a agreement with a better big in Noel or Cousins.

How do you know that was the reason?


Because Zu is actually a talented big who hasn’t reached his potential, I would have loved to see them add another big though but I am fine with a Zu/McGee front-line.

But again, how do you know that the Lakers brought him back primarily because of what they think he can contribute, as opposed to saving money? You don't. He did not have a good season. That's why it was surprising that they brought him back. You can't say with a straight face that they saw how he played last season and became convinced that they couldn't afford to let him get away. Don't you think there's a reason they don't talk him up or ever mention him as part of the young core? They talk up every single young player they have except him. I mean, that's not a coincidence.


Obviously the guy looks like he’s put in effort to get in great shape, that should be a sign that they trust him to play at a high level or they could have just treated him like a no body.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:35 pm    Post subject:

lol...okay, IG.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:45 pm    Post subject:

I actually agree with Inspector Gadget.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:51 pm    Post subject:

LakersForever123 wrote:
I actually agree with Inspector Gadget.

That probably means you should think twice JK, IG.

Not everything he says is outrageous. I wouldn't even say that this is. I just don't agree. I have to squint really, really hard to see it that way. Again, it's no coincidence that they never speak of him as part of the young core. You'd expect them to if they were relatively high on him. I don't think it's reasonable to just ignore that fact and not wonder why.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:14 pm    Post subject:

LakersForever123 wrote:
I actually agree with Inspector Gadget.


+1. In an interview Zubac mentioned that he was told by Magic/Pelinka during his exit interview that he would receive more playing time this coming season. Have to believe they saw talent in him if they actually made that statement.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:38 am    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
LakersForever123 wrote:
I actually agree with Inspector Gadget.

That probably means you should think twice JK, IG.

Not everything he says is outrageous. I wouldn't even say that this is. I just don't agree. I have to squint really, really hard to see it that way. Again, it's no coincidence that they never speak of him as part of the young core. You'd expect them to if they were relatively high on him. I don't think it's reasonable to just ignore that fact and not wonder why.


He isn't a key member of the core so why should they put him in that group?

The young core group have expectations of a higher potential and contributions over the next couple years. In the cases of Ball and Ingram there is an expectation (whether realistic or not) of elite NBA levels at their positions.

With Zubac the expectations are more modest. If he can be a consistent contributor this year it would be a win IMO. If he can consistently play 24+mpg with defensive energy and rebounding he would be a valuable complimentary player on this roster.

They are not expecting him to be the next Embid, Ayton or Stevens. If they can get a consistent level similar to Valanciunas, Poeltl or even a Plumlee they would be thrilled.

I would be too if he can earn the mpg, play defense and give the Lakers a nightly 8pts/7 rebounds. Anything more exceeds my expectations.
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