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yinoma2001
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| Eindhoven wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: |
In order to average 18mpg he should play 20+ minutes several times and he hasn't played 20 minutes in a game for 4 years (Nov 1st 2014). I don't think he can handle that. He will have 18-minute games as well as 8-minute games. In average, I believe he will play around 12mpg, maybe 14mpg, tops.
Zu will have room to play enough minutes, I hope he earns them. Otherwise, I can see Magic trading for a C before February. |
Yeah my 18-20mpg is too high now that I think about it. But I think 12mpg is TOO low. I think it'll be in the 14-16mpg range. |
14.8mpg it is. Deal?  |
15 and we have a deal my friend !
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yinoma2001
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | I think we will be active in the buyout market for centers come January/Feb. |
Tyson Chandler
Marcin Gortat
Joahkim Noah
Kosta Koufos
Zach Randolph
Lots of guys who can help us. |
Dedmon.
Maybe Vucecic.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | I think we will be active in the buyout market for centers come January/Feb. |
Tyson Chandler
Marcin Gortat
Joahkim Noah
Kosta Koufos
Zach Randolph
Lots of guys who can help us. |
Dedmon.
Maybe Vucecic. |
forgot about 2 guys, thanks  |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | What if Zu starts? |
hell freezes over? pigs will fly? What are you looking for here? In all seriousness, it just seems questionable to start Zu on a Lebron team....just have to find a better option. |
Slava Medvedenko and Samaki Walker were both token starters during the Shaq/Kobe threepeat...maybe pigs have already flown?
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DLaker
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Svi half stat against Montenegro
bad shooting so far, hoping for a better showing next half
7 pts 1 ast 2 reb |
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Inspector Gadget
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| DLaker wrote: | Svi half stat against Montenegro
bad shooting so far, hoping for a better showing next half
7 pts 1 ast 2 reb |
What about Zu? |
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DLaker
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Bad shooting for Svi against Montenegro in a loss
15 pts 5/15 fg, 5 reb 2 ast 2/4 3pt |
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DLaker
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | DLaker wrote: | Svi half stat against Montenegro
bad shooting so far, hoping for a better showing next half
7 pts 1 ast 2 reb |
What about Zu? |
Half Zu
6 pts 2 reb |
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Inspector Gadget
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| DLaker wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | DLaker wrote: | Svi half stat against Montenegro
bad shooting so far, hoping for a better showing next half
7 pts 1 ast 2 reb |
What about Zu? |
Half Zu
6 pts 2 reb |
Thanks, hopefully the rebounding Improves with more game condition. |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | DLaker wrote: | I will give Zubac some time to grow. He is only 21 with size, good hands and touch.
Marc Gasol entered the NBA at age 23
11.9 pts 7.4 reb 1.1blk 1.7 Ast 30.7 min
Not saying Zubac will turn to Marc, but we cant count him out too early when he has so much growth and maturity left.
Early success in his rookie year made him believe thing will be given to him and came in the season out of shape and slow. He learned last year he needed to work extra hard every day and finished the last season strong.
+/- rating the last 11 games last year is a +45 with a with a few very good games. Last 10 game he avg 6.2 pts 5.3 reb 1 blk around 16 min/game
He looks in very good shape this season and looks more explosive and agile from the fiba games. Excited what Lebron can make him look like this year, (ie mozgov, Ilgauskas). If he pans out, he and Wagner can secure out center spot for years one low post another a stretch. |
Zubac is basically the only big that does exactly what Gasol does besides the 3pt.. it’s not like Gasol was spectacular when he came into the NBA, we have already seen Zu put up nice stats when he gets a opportunity. |
I dunno about that. Gasol can read the floor and have that vision couple that with his passing ability, that’s a level above for Zu right now. |
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Inspector Gadget
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| CRoost wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | DLaker wrote: | I will give Zubac some time to grow. He is only 21 with size, good hands and touch.
Marc Gasol entered the NBA at age 23
11.9 pts 7.4 reb 1.1blk 1.7 Ast 30.7 min
Not saying Zubac will turn to Marc, but we cant count him out too early when he has so much growth and maturity left.
Early success in his rookie year made him believe thing will be given to him and came in the season out of shape and slow. He learned last year he needed to work extra hard every day and finished the last season strong.
+/- rating the last 11 games last year is a +45 with a with a few very good games. Last 10 game he avg 6.2 pts 5.3 reb 1 blk around 16 min/game
He looks in very good shape this season and looks more explosive and agile from the fiba games. Excited what Lebron can make him look like this year, (ie mozgov, Ilgauskas). If he pans out, he and Wagner can secure out center spot for years one low post another a stretch. |
Zubac is basically the only big that does exactly what Gasol does besides the 3pt.. it’s not like Gasol was spectacular when he came into the NBA, we have already seen Zu put up nice stats when he gets a opportunity. |
I dunno about that. Gasol can read the floor and have that vision couple that with his passing ability, that’s a level above for Zu right now. |
I know Gasol is more talented and skillful, what I meant is that both have good footwork and have a smooth low post game. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | What if Zu starts? |
hell freezes over? pigs will fly? What are you looking for here? In all seriousness, it just seems questionable to start Zu on a Lebron team....just have to find a better option. |
Slava Medvedenko and Samaki Walker were both token starters during the Shaq/Kobe threepeat...maybe pigs have already flown? |
 Very nice!!!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:29 am Post subject: |
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Zubac's Boxscore against Poland (no Gortat):
6pt (3/6FG), 2rb, 2ast, 1TO in 14min. Not good.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:06 am Post subject: |
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| Eindhoven wrote: | Zubac's Boxscore against Poland (no Gortat):
6pt (3/6FG), 2rb, 2ast, 1TO in 14min. Not good. |
This is who Zu is....shows flashes at times but more than usual has these types of performances. |
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lewis
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| King Randle wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | Zubac's Boxscore against Poland (no Gortat):
6pt (3/6FG), 2rb, 2ast, 1TO in 14min. Not good. |
This is who Zu is....shows flashes at times but more than usual has these types of performances. |
If Wagner does not wow us, we will probably see Beasly average 12m at C (yikes) |
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King Randle
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:30 am Post subject: |
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| lewis wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | Zubac's Boxscore against Poland (no Gortat):
6pt (3/6FG), 2rb, 2ast, 1TO in 14min. Not good. |
This is who Zu is....shows flashes at times but more than usual has these types of performances. |
If Wagner does not wow us, we will probably see Beasly average 12m at C (yikes) |
That's a good thing. Beasley is going to have a great year. |
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lewis
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| King Randle wrote: | | lewis wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | Zubac's Boxscore against Poland (no Gortat):
6pt (3/6FG), 2rb, 2ast, 1TO in 14min. Not good. |
This is who Zu is....shows flashes at times but more than usual has these types of performances. |
If Wagner does not wow us, we will probably see Beasly average 12m at C (yikes) |
That's a good thing. Beasley is going to have a great year. |
No if you picture Beasley as the last line of your defense...it will be layup drill for opposing teams |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| lewis wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | lewis wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | Zubac's Boxscore against Poland (no Gortat):
6pt (3/6FG), 2rb, 2ast, 1TO in 14min. Not good. |
This is who Zu is....shows flashes at times but more than usual has these types of performances. |
If Wagner does not wow us, we will probably see Beasly average 12m at C (yikes) |
That's a good thing. Beasley is going to have a great year. |
No if you picture Beasley as the last line of your defense...it will be layup drill for opposing teams |
It will be a different defense when Bron and Beasly play center. Force teams to shoot from the outside and prevent the drive. With McGee it'll be more pressure on the perimeter and if they drive they'll encounter McGee. IMO |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| Eindhoven wrote: | Zubac's Boxscore against Poland (no Gortat):
6pt (3/6FG), 2rb, 2ast, 1TO in 14min. Not good. |
Any reason why he got 14Min of PT? |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | Zubac's Boxscore against Poland (no Gortat):
6pt (3/6FG), 2rb, 2ast, 1TO in 14min. Not good. |
Any reason why he got 14Min of PT? |
Poland went really small and was raining 3's.
Neither Zu or their other nba Center (Zizic?) got much playing time
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| King Randle wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | Zubac's Boxscore against Poland (no Gortat):
6pt (3/6FG), 2rb, 2ast, 1TO in 14min. Not good. |
This is who Zu is....shows flashes at times but more than usual has these types of performances. |
Not sure what type of stats you expect in 14 minutes. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| PlantedTanks wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | Zubac's Boxscore against Poland (no Gortat):
6pt (3/6FG), 2rb, 2ast, 1TO in 14min. Not good. |
This is who Zu is....shows flashes at times but more than usual has these types of performances. |
Not sure what type of stats you expect in 14 minutes. |
30-12 5 blocks at least! |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Eindhoven wrote: | Zubac's Boxscore against Poland (no Gortat):
6pt (3/6FG), 2rb, 2ast, 1TO in 14min. Not good. |
Not good.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| defense wrote: | | PlantedTanks wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | Zubac's Boxscore against Poland (no Gortat):
6pt (3/6FG), 2rb, 2ast, 1TO in 14min. Not good. |
This is who Zu is....shows flashes at times but more than usual has these types of performances. |
Not sure what type of stats you expect in 14 minutes. |
30-12 5 blocks at least! |
Is that all? I see you are still pessimistic on Zu's potential |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| PlantedTanks wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | Zubac's Boxscore against Poland (no Gortat):
6pt (3/6FG), 2rb, 2ast, 1TO in 14min. Not good. |
This is who Zu is....shows flashes at times but more than usual has these types of performances. |
Not sure what type of stats you expect in 14 minutes. |
You’d hope that an nba talent level center would dominate against a below nba level roster’s small ball lineup and force them to adjust to him instead of vice versa. |
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