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| av3773 wrote: | | A bit concerned, too bad Mo is injured I would really like to see what he can do as the primary backup...I think ultimately he is probably going to be our best bet for backing up Mcgee |
Coming off injury and lacking NBA level strength at position, I wouldn't bank on him so easily.
I think it has to be LeBron after McGee, then Beasley, until Zubac is able to play up to NBA game speed.
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PhiberOptik
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What Center position? 
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| Will be less concerning when LeBron starts to play the 5 in the regular season. No reason to put him there right now. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:12 am Post subject: Re: How do you feel about the Center position? |
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| 1ngr4m wrote: | We're not going to have a traditional center for 48 minutes in this offense but even McGee isn't a good one on one defender. Seems like we're going to get grilled by centers all season.
Is there enough centers on contenders for it to become a problem?
How about the wear and tear on Kuzma/Lebron in the long run?
Is it worth it trying to have them play back up center minutes every single game unless Zubac shows out?
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I always thought it was a mistake to let Lopez go; I'd much rather be paying him $5 million than Stephenson, who seems redundant on this roster. Shocking that the Bucks got him for $3.3 million, while we stocked up on shooting guards and small forwards. |
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Lets hope #25 will be like #27.
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Baron Von Humongous
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I like Beasley defensively more than Kuz at small ball five, but I like Kuz offensively more than Beasley at small ball five.
*conundrum*
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| Biggest weakness by far. McGee did OK but he was even picking up fouls pretty rapidly. Zu can't handle the NBA and Mo won't be strong enough either. Imagine when we play the Pelicans with A.D and Randle. We need to sign someone else and cut Zu |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Brook-22mpg
Javale-15mpg
remaining minutes, LBJ.
Would have been ideal as Brook took less than the room exception. |
The fact they could have resigned him so cheap still has me puzzled Javale is seriously limited because of the asthma condition Zubac looks horrible and Wagner is an unknown I don't see Kuzma or Beasley being able to handle big centers They may have to make a move to get a decent center |
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I want Javale to play 15-16 mpg of high energy minutes.
If he has to pace himself and play 20-22mpg, we will get less of what makes Javale great.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| Center is a huge weakness for us. Javale can give us a solid 18 MPG but Zubac still looks like hot trash and Wagner is a fragile rookie. The FO will need to make a move for a legit backup center that has size and can rebound. Kuz or Beas at the 5 will not work |
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| shortodom wrote: | | Biggest weakness by far. McGee did OK but he was even picking up fouls pretty rapidly. Zu can't handle the NBA and Mo won't be strong enough either. Imagine when we play the Pelicans with A.D and Randle. We need to sign someone else and cut Zu |
This is the McGee problem that flies under the radar. He averaged 5.3 fouls per 36 minutes last year. 3 fouls in 20 minutes is right on that pace. He averages 4.5 per 36 for his career, so this is not some aberration from playing limited minutes with the Warriors. |
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| Like everyone else I like McGee...but we definitely need a back-up. Zubac is absolutely worthless and even though we'll be playing some small ball at times,there are games we won't be able to play small so we need a legit back-up big center. Time will tell. |
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| King Randle wrote: | | Like everyone else I like McGee...but we definitely need a back-up. Zubac is absolutely worthless and even though we'll be playing some small ball at times,there are games we won't be able to play small so we need a legit back-up big center. Time will tell. |
Zubac missed a practice this week because he was sick. HOPEFULLY, that illness impacted his play and he can be a below average but serviceable backup this year. But he was so (bleep) bad last night it’s hard to remain optimistic. |
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| were fine for center compared to 3pt shooting or long jumpers. |
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| Should have used the 1 year Lance Stephenson money to bring back Brook Lopez. |
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| Staccatos wrote: | | Should have used the 1 year Lance Stephenson money to bring back Brook Lopez. |
True. I wonder if they made their moves expecting Wagner to be more impactful than Svi.
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| 2019 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | It is still early to worry about the C position a lot of bigs will likely be available during the season..
Koufus
Tyson Chandler
Marcin Gortat
Vucevic
We can weather the storm until the FO eventually settles for another big.. |
I think Tyson eventually get's bought out.. hopefully he starts putting pressure on them to do so before December.
He would be the best we could do without giving up much to get him. |
After watching that Rondo to McGee lob last night and other dunks by McGee, i feel that a rim running center is the way to go. Chandler would be a great fit imo. It also gets makes me feel like the Lakers should hurry up and trade for AD as soon as they are able to. I would trade Ingram/Kuz/KCP for AD. Let AD be the rim running center for 36 minutes and McGee back him up for 12 minutes. Then, you have a rim running center in there for 48 minutes. Replace Kuzma with Wagner, who is a similar player (stretch 4) and replace BI with Svi (obvioulsy a much better three point shooter). |
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The Juggernaut
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Staccatos wrote: | | Should have used the 1 year Lance Stephenson money to bring back Brook Lopez. |
True. I wonder if they made their moves expecting Wagner to be more impactful than Svi. |
I think the FO overrated Mo Wagner thinking he could provide us this season what Brook gave us last season. |
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| Y’all are forgetting one big factor, Brook is probably starting in Milwaukee, it takes two parties to sign. Maybe that enticed Brook more than being a bench guy. |
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ShowtimeReturns
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| The Juggernaut wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Staccatos wrote: | | Should have used the 1 year Lance Stephenson money to bring back Brook Lopez. |
True. I wonder if they made their moves expecting Wagner to be more impactful than Svi. |
I think the FO overrated Mo Wagner thinking he could provide us this season what Brook gave us last season. |
All good points and obviously they thought Zubac would be playing at a much higher level |
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| CantStopJM wrote: | | Y’all are forgetting one big factor, Brook is probably starting in Milwaukee, it takes two parties to sign. Maybe that enticed Brook more than being a bench guy. |
I read somewhere that Brook said the FO didn't want him back period. FO probably thought that run/gun meant we couldn't have a plodding big like Brook.
At 3.3m I would have happily welcomed him back.
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| 2019 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | It is still early to worry about the C position a lot of bigs will likely be available during the season..
Koufus
Tyson Chandler
Marcin Gortat
Vucevic
We can weather the storm until the FO eventually settles for another big.. |
I think Tyson eventually get's bought out.. hopefully he starts putting pressure on them to do so before December.
He would be the best we could do without giving up much to get him. |
From all the reports, the Sun have no plans to buy him out.
In fact, last year they asked him if he would prefer being traded to a contender or staying with the team and he told them he wanted to stay.
He's already got a ring, so I don't think he cares that much about latching onto a contender as a backup. He seems to like being in Phoenix and mentoring the guys there. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| CantStopJM wrote: | | Y’all are forgetting one big factor, Brook is probably starting in Milwaukee, it takes two parties to sign. Maybe that enticed Brook more than being a bench guy. |
I think he'd have started here, too
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | CantStopJM wrote: | | Y’all are forgetting one big factor, Brook is probably starting in Milwaukee, it takes two parties to sign. Maybe that enticed Brook more than being a bench guy. |
I think he'd have started here, too |
hate crying over spilled milk, but for the combined price of under 6m, a Brook/Javale rotation would have been decent.
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BigGameHames
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| activeverb wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | It is still early to worry about the C position a lot of bigs will likely be available during the season..
Koufus
Tyson Chandler
Marcin Gortat
Vucevic
We can weather the storm until the FO eventually settles for another big.. |
I think Tyson eventually get's bought out.. hopefully he starts putting pressure on them to do so before December.
He would be the best we could do without giving up much to get him. |
From all the reports, the Sun have no plans to buy him out.
In fact, last year they asked him if he would prefer being traded to a contender or staying with the team and he told them he wanted to stay.
He's already got a ring, so I don't think he cares that much about latching onto a contender as a backup. He seems to like being in Phoenix and mentoring the guys there. |
He’s from LA and LA didn’t have a contender last year. Coming home and winning a ring is more intriguing than going to live in Cleveland/OKC/Toronto etc. |
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