"Anonymous" NBA Scout's take on the 2018-2019 Lakers
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next

 
Post new topic    LakersGround.net Forum Index -> LA Lakers Lounge Reply to topic
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Texas_Pete
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 23 Jun 2005
Posts: 12245
Location: Somewhere watching a Laker game

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:18 am    Post subject: "Anonymous" NBA Scout's take on the 2018-2019 Lakers

Anonymous NBA scouts don’t hold back when assessing opposing teams. This year is no different 👀 https://t.co/HX58gA0AhE
https://twitter.com/SInow/status/1050038281000357888?s=19
Quote:
It’s hard to bet against LeBron James wherever he is, East or West. That in itself is worth getting to the playoffs and possibly getting to the Western Conference finals if they get injury help against the top two teams. LeBron will do what LeBron does anywhere. Whether they get to the conference finals will be determined by Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram andKyle Kuzma. . . . LeBron is still the best player in basketball and he will be an MVP candidate. They will have to play him at the four and the five given their depth chart. But when you put four shooters around him, it doesn’t matter what position you call him. That will be a good offense and the opponent will have to guard him with whoever their best defender is. . . . The Lakers roster is better than Cleveland’s last year top to bottom. The Lakers we see in the first month will look different than the Lakers in the playoffs. They’re going to try to figure out what works best as they go along. Historically, LeBron handling the ball the majority of the game, that formula has been proven. The roster the Lakers have assembled will challenge a lot of what has made LeBron comfortable in the past because they want to play at a high pace and they don’t have that much shooting. . . . Letting Brook Lopez go surprised me. 


More at LINK
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
yinoma2001
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 19 Jun 2010
Posts: 96040
Location: Do you believe in Magic?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:23 am    Post subject:

Quote:
Letting Brook Lopez go surprised me.


Jules...there was a lot going on. But Brook? I still don't get why we let him go.
_________________
Lakers most hated list: 1) Celtics; 2) Mintz.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
CandyCanes
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 24 Dec 2007
Posts: 28675
Location: Santa Clarita, CA (Hell) ->>>>>Washington, DC

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:03 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Quote:
Letting Brook Lopez go surprised me.


Jules...there was a lot going on. But Brook? I still don't get why we let him go.


And then replaced him with McGee of all people. Makes no sense.
_________________
Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZrbEjppnd4
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Reply with quote
kwyitkilla
Starting Rotation
Starting Rotation


Joined: 10 Jul 2009
Posts: 507
Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:19 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Quote:
Letting Brook Lopez go surprised me.


Jules...there was a lot going on. But Brook? I still don't get why we let him go.


I think they didn't like how slow Brook was. There is a considerable amount of a difference between him and McGee's foot speed, and I think they value that a lot. If they want a guy who can get out and run, block some shots and play solid defense, McGee hasn't been that bad.

Also, averaging 4 rebounds as a starting center didn't help.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ocho
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 24 May 2005
Posts: 43025

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:25 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Quote:
Letting Brook Lopez go surprised me.


Jules...there was a lot going on. But Brook? I still don't get why we let him go.


Lance over Brook was the blunder of an otherwise great summer.
_________________
14-5-3-12
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
BadGuy
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 13 May 2008
Posts: 1514

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:26 am    Post subject:

Brook Lopez is not going to be the difference between winning a championship or coming up short. McGee is probably better on the boards, on defense, and at catching lobs. He will fit way better than Lopez, who had the movement of an elderly Brontosaurus.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
greenfrog
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 02 Jan 2011
Posts: 33424
Location: Torrance

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:30 am    Post subject:

Quote:
I think their best lineup in a playoff game is LeBron, Hart, Kuzma, KCP and Rondo. No Ingram and no Ball. You have a lot of thing to think about with that group. Super modern. All switchable. That closing lineup is better than Cleveland’s last year.


Kuzma is switchable?

I do agree he's the best offensive fit, though.
_________________
Smash-mouth basketball - Alive and kicking (2018-).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
VicXLakers
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Posts: 8930

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:34 am    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
Quote:
I think their best lineup in a playoff game is LeBron, Hart, Kuzma, KCP and Rondo. No Ingram and no Ball. You have a lot of thing to think about with that group. Super modern. All switchable. That closing lineup is better than Cleveland’s last year.


Kuzma is switchable?

I do agree he's the best offensive fit, though.


the whole quote is silly ... Super modern??
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
AY2043
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 26 Feb 2012
Posts: 9827

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:44 am    Post subject:

Yeah I really don't get why we didn't keep Brooke and not sign Lance.

Play him 25 minutes, Javale 15, and then have LeBron close at Center. And then you wouldn't have to worry about Lance ball stopping and stealing minutes from Hart.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Four Decade Bandwagon
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 18 Jul 2014
Posts: 4217

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:45 am    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
Quote:
I think their best lineup in a playoff game is LeBron, Hart, Kuzma, KCP and Rondo. No Ingram and no Ball. You have a lot of thing to think about with that group. Super modern. All switchable. That closing lineup is better than Cleveland’s last year.


Kuzma is switchable?

I do agree he's the best offensive fit, though.


The exclusion of Ingram from that proposed lineup is what jumps out to me.

Kuzma switchable or Rondo over Ball are at least debatable. But KCP over Ingram? Not seeing that at all.

Overall I agree with the analysis. Lakers have some strengths and weaknesses. How they eventually fit and player chemistry will define the season.

Lakers have as many "unknown" aspects of any team in the League. Predictions all over the place and with multiple qualifiers are no surprise.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Baron Von Humongous
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 02 Jul 2015
Posts: 17390

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:48 am    Post subject:

BadGuy wrote:
Brook Lopez is not going to be the difference between winning a championship or coming up short. McGee is probably better on the boards, on defense, and at catching lobs. He will fit way better than Lopez, who had the movement of an elderly Brontosaurus.

Brook Lopez could have been the difference between being the 5th seed or the 8th seed, though, since there are going to be a mess of Western Conference teams after GSW and Houston separated by 2-3 wins.
_________________
Banana Head
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Baron Von Humongous
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 02 Jul 2015
Posts: 17390

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:51 am    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
Quote:
I think their best lineup in a playoff game is LeBron, Hart, Kuzma, KCP and Rondo. No Ingram and no Ball. You have a lot of thing to think about with that group. Super modern. All switchable. That closing lineup is better than Cleveland’s last year.


Kuzma is switchable?

I do agree he's the best offensive fit, though.

KCP and Rondo also aren't switchable, and certainly not in comparison to Ball and Ingram.
_________________
Banana Head
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Inspector Gadget
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 22313
Location: LA, CA

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:53 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
BadGuy wrote:
Brook Lopez is not going to be the difference between winning a championship or coming up short. McGee is probably better on the boards, on defense, and at catching lobs. He will fit way better than Lopez, who had the movement of an elderly Brontosaurus.

Brook Lopez could have been the difference between being the 5th seed or the 8th seed, though, since there are going to be a mess of Western Conference teams after GSW and Houston separated by 2-3 wins.


No one thinks Lopez is a Impact player in any form in basketball, he can be good contributor and nothing else.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Baron Von Humongous
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 02 Jul 2015
Posts: 17390

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:55 am    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
BadGuy wrote:
Brook Lopez is not going to be the difference between winning a championship or coming up short. McGee is probably better on the boards, on defense, and at catching lobs. He will fit way better than Lopez, who had the movement of an elderly Brontosaurus.

Brook Lopez could have been the difference between being the 5th seed or the 8th seed, though, since there are going to be a mess of Western Conference teams after GSW and Houston separated by 2-3 wins.


No one thinks Lopez is a Impact player in any form in basketball, he can be good contributor and nothing else.

A good basketball contributor probably has some kind of impact on a basketball court.
_________________
Banana Head
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
saetarubia
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 06 Jul 2014
Posts: 4433

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject:

Brook shot poorly for a good chunk of the season. Don't think him and KCP shot well last season. Hit a purple patch once we were out of the playoff race and improved their averages. Consistency wasn't there.
_________________
Showtime 2.0
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
1ngr4m
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 22 Dec 2011
Posts: 5826

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:59 am    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
BadGuy wrote:
Brook Lopez is not going to be the difference between winning a championship or coming up short. McGee is probably better on the boards, on defense, and at catching lobs. He will fit way better than Lopez, who had the movement of an elderly Brontosaurus.

Brook Lopez could have been the difference between being the 5th seed or the 8th seed, though, since there are going to be a mess of Western Conference teams after GSW and Houston separated by 2-3 wins.


No one thinks Lopez is a Impact player in any form in basketball, he can be good contributor and nothing else.


Good Contributor impacts the game, what is you talking about fam
_________________
Did Jordan Clarkson think Metta's 3 at the end was going in? "I don't know. He was shaking like a stripper in the corner."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Inspector Gadget
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 22313
Location: LA, CA

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:06 am    Post subject:

1ngr4m wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
BadGuy wrote:
Brook Lopez is not going to be the difference between winning a championship or coming up short. McGee is probably better on the boards, on defense, and at catching lobs. He will fit way better than Lopez, who had the movement of an elderly Brontosaurus.

Brook Lopez could have been the difference between being the 5th seed or the 8th seed, though, since there are going to be a mess of Western Conference teams after GSW and Houston separated by 2-3 wins.


No one thinks Lopez is a Impact player in any form in basketball, he can be good contributor and nothing else.


Good Contributor impacts the game, what is you talking about fam


A guy who provides contribution doesn’t necessarily mean they are good enough to Impact playoff seedings, a lot of guys in basketball put up solid stats but aren’t making a difference for there team... but if you think that way cool
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Baron Von Humongous
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 02 Jul 2015
Posts: 17390

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:08 am    Post subject:

saetarubia wrote:
Brook shot poorly for a good chunk of the season. Don't think him and KCP shot well last season. Hit a purple patch once we were out of the playoff race and improved their averages. Consistency wasn't there.

Agreed, but Brook certainly shoots better from deep than McGee and Zu while Beasley is a low volume three point shooter and Kuz may prove to be as streaky from deep as KCP.
_________________
Banana Head
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Four Decade Bandwagon
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 18 Jul 2014
Posts: 4217

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:26 am    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
BadGuy wrote:
Brook Lopez is not going to be the difference between winning a championship or coming up short. McGee is probably better on the boards, on defense, and at catching lobs. He will fit way better than Lopez, who had the movement of an elderly Brontosaurus.

Brook Lopez could have been the difference between being the 5th seed or the 8th seed, though, since there are going to be a mess of Western Conference teams after GSW and Houston separated by 2-3 wins.


No one thinks Lopez is a Impact player in any form in basketball, he can be good contributor and nothing else.


Good Contributor impacts the game, what is you talking about fam


A guy who provides contribution doesn’t necessarily mean they are good enough to Impact playoff seedings, a lot of guys in basketball put up solid stats but aren’t making a difference for there team... but if you think that way cool


Interesting point of view.

Much depends on how one defines "impact" or "contribution" IMO.

A consistent role player can contribute to the team. That bench scorer, pesky defender, 3pt specialist or energy player may play only a few mpg and never be grouped with stars of a team but IMO just as critical over the course of a long 82 game season.

Considering how tight the West is projected to be this season being able to steal a couple games because of consistent reliable bench contributors might make the difference in being a 5th seed or missing the playoffs.

Would love to see his 13/4 and physical counter balance on the court for 20mpg again this season. His battling and boxing out contributed to others getting rebounds and pushing the pace while he could trail the play.

Biggest point is Lakers are missing that contribution this season. They need to find a way to get it or perhaps those couple games lost over the season end up costing them.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
GoldenThroat
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 36993

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:28 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Quote:
Letting Brook Lopez go surprised me.


Jules...there was a lot going on. But Brook? I still don't get why we let him go.


Lance over Brook was the blunder of an otherwise great summer.


I've heard that Brook wasn't particularly interested in coming back.
_________________
Sign up for The Athletic through this link to get 40% off your first year's subscription: LINK
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Inspector Gadget
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 22313
Location: LA, CA

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:34 am    Post subject:

Lance has played very solid and looks very engaged as a Laker, he’s gonna have a good year for us, no need to bring up the things the team didn’t do.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Bard207
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 08 Jan 2013
Posts: 6051

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:02 am    Post subject:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
1ngr4m wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
BadGuy wrote:
Brook Lopez is not going to be the difference between winning a championship or coming up short. McGee is probably better on the boards, on defense, and at catching lobs. He will fit way better than Lopez, who had the movement of an elderly Brontosaurus.

Brook Lopez could have been the difference between being the 5th seed or the 8th seed, though, since there are going to be a mess of Western Conference teams after GSW and Houston separated by 2-3 wins.


No one thinks Lopez is a Impact player in any form in basketball, he can be good contributor and nothing else.


Good Contributor impacts the game, what is you talking about fam


A guy who provides contribution doesn’t necessarily mean they are good enough to Impact playoff seedings, a lot of guys in basketball put up solid stats but aren’t making a difference for there team... but if you think that way cool


Interesting point of view.

Much depends on how one defines "impact" or "contribution" IMO.

A consistent role player can contribute to the team. That bench scorer, pesky defender, 3pt specialist or energy player may play only a few mpg and never be grouped with stars of a team but IMO just as critical over the course of a long 82 game season.

Considering how tight the West is projected to be this season being able to steal a couple games because of consistent reliable bench contributors might make the difference in being a 5th seed or missing the playoffs.

Would love to see his 13/4 and physical counter balance on the court for 20mpg again this season. His battling and boxing out contributed to others getting rebounds and pushing the pace while he could trail the play.

Biggest point is Lakers are missing that contribution this season. They need to find a way to get it or perhaps those couple games lost over the season end up costing them.


+1

Last season

3. Portland 49 - 33
4. OKC 48 - 34
5. Utah 48 - 34
6. New Orleans 48 - 34
7. San Antonio 47 -35
8. Minnesota 47 - 35
______________________
9. Denver 46 - 36
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
epak
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 24961

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:35 am    Post subject:

Financially it was pretty much one of Lance or Beas for Lopez.
But you can't look at it from a 1 to 1 decision just on that premise.

Lopez's replacements are Zubac and Moe.
Who would have been Lance/Beas replacement?

Re: the anonymous take, he's not really saying anything different from what other have said. Well, except for that Lopez nugget.
_________________
👊 Los Angeles Lakers 👊

Zo.Kuz.LBJ.Hart.Tyson: NetRtg +8.9
Zo.Kuz.LBJ.KCP.Tyson: NetRtg +14.6
Zo.Kuz.LBJ.Hart.McGee: NetRtg +15.0
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Baron Von Humongous
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 02 Jul 2015
Posts: 17390

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:42 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Financially it was pretty much one of Lance or Beas for Lopez.
But you can't look at it from a 1 to 1 decision just on that premise.

Lopez's replacements are Zubac and Moe.
Who would have been Lance/Beas replacement?

Re: the anonymous take, he's not really saying anything different from what other have said. Well, except for that Lopez nugget.

I'll take Corey Brewer on a vet minimum deal and BroLo over Stephenson at $4.5M and Zu.
_________________
Banana Head
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ringfinger
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 08 Oct 2013
Posts: 23221

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:43 am    Post subject:

BadGuy wrote:
Brook Lopez is not going to be the difference between winning a championship or coming up short. McGee is probably better on the boards, on defense, and at catching lobs. He will fit way better than Lopez, who had the movement of an elderly Brontosaurus.


Is he any slower than Zaza Pachulia?

You don’t keep Lopez for his speed, you keep him for his size and inside defense
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    LakersGround.net Forum Index -> LA Lakers Lounge All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
Page 1 of 3
Jump to:  

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum






Graphics by uberzev
© 1995-2018 LakersGround.net. All Rights Reserved. Privacy Policy. Terms of Use.
LakersGround is an unofficial news source serving the fan community since 1995.
We are in no way associated with the Los Angeles Lakers or the National Basketball Association.


Powered by phpBB