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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:47 pm    Post subject:

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Cant win without defense. Simple as that.


That is IMHO the most glaring problem — Luke has not instilled any defensive mindset or philosophy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:47 pm    Post subject:

Houston just got blown out by New Orleans ... You know they’ll be ready for us
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:48 pm    Post subject:

We can start the season 0-2 with Rockets up next.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:48 pm    Post subject:

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Do you think the Pelicans would trade us Julius Randle for lance stephenson, Michael Beasley, and Javale McGee?


This is the team we have...silly trade ideas serve no purpose imo
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:48 pm    Post subject:

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some silly stuff in here and other threads but thats nothing new...

I see a powerful offensive engine that needs to be fine tuned and a long defense that needs to be dialed in


It wasn’t that bad imo. Fix the shooting and they will be fine.

They got beat inside on defense but the potential is there with length and high activity to bother the opponent. They had spurts of really good defense.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:48 pm    Post subject:

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Do you think the Pelicans would trade us Julius Randle for lance stephenson, Michael Beasley, and Javale McGee?


Why trade McGee?


Randle would have done little to remedy the problems we had today... we scored an enormous amount in the paint.

We needed 3 point shooting and another long body to use against Nurkic, Leonard, and Collins... none of what Julius does.

Julius is going to do great for the Pelicans... but we needed Brook tonight.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:49 pm    Post subject:

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We can start the season 0-2 with Rockets up next.


Rockets looked like crap. Melo is a team killer. Can't wait to see him switch on LeBron.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:49 pm    Post subject:

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Yeah we lost but lets not overreact. First game on the road against a team who owns us, newly put together team, and we shot horribly. Even Shaq and Kenny said we the fans should be encouraged.


I don't think reactions to the shooting are an overreaction. We were a bad shooting team all year last year. Who among Lance, Beasley, Rondo, and Javale is supposed to change that?

The hope was (is?) for internal improvement because sometimes young players do get better at shooting.


I think modest improvement is the most we can expect. if we can get 35% from Ingram or Ball, that's a win for their own improvement, but it doesn't significantly move the needle for us when they're both reluctant shooters. Ingram's 39% last year was on 2 attempts a game. Can he maintain that at volume? I think KCP's 37% was a fluke. Kuzma i think will be a 37% lifer.

I've always thought 3-point shooting was contagious, in both directions. Seeing your teammates make em helps you make em. But when people start clanking, seems like everyone does. We needed veteran 3-point shooting and convinced ourselves the young guys got it.

Ball put up around six 3PA per36 last season after being really hesitant to start the season, fwiw. But he looks tentative and I could see him deferring a lot more this season.

And Hart looked like he could legitimately be a 38%+ shooter from deep last season after a slow start.

It was never going to be enough for this season, but I'm more concerned they trade youth or assets to address short-term fixes that could've been better addressed with the $20M spent in free agency. They need to let the young guys grow around Lebron even if it means clanking shooting nights like tonight from BI, Ball, and Kuz.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:49 pm    Post subject:

Last year we would have lost by 20 or more in Portland under the same circumstances. I consider tonight a success, as much as I wanted to see a win. Saturday will be very tough too. I don't expect us to hit a stride until at least 10-15 games into the season. Stay patient my friends...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:49 pm    Post subject:

Need to get that win on Saturday for the sanity of the fanbase
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:50 pm    Post subject:

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LKA wrote:
All_Star_Laker wrote:
Do you think the Pelicans would trade us Julius Randle for lance stephenson, Michael Beasley, and Javale McGee?


Why trade McGee?


Randle would have done little to remedy the problems we had today... we scored an enormous amount in the paint.

We needed 3 point shooting and another long body to use against Nurkic, Leonard, and Collins... none of what Julius does.

Julius is going to do great for the Pelicans... but we needed Brook tonight.


I still don’t understand why Brook wasn’t brought back

He even said he would sacrifice if a star(s) came
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:50 pm    Post subject:

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Home opener against Houston is going to be tougher.


This season is starting to feel like the 2013 season vibes were we started off really slow, hopefully LeBron’s greatness puts us in a great position until this team clicks together


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:51 pm    Post subject:

Next game is at home. I think we'll win most of our home games like usual starting with the next two. I actually think we will be favored against Houston at home.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:51 pm    Post subject:

LKA wrote:
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LKA wrote:
All_Star_Laker wrote:
Do you think the Pelicans would trade us Julius Randle for lance stephenson, Michael Beasley, and Javale McGee?


Why trade McGee?


Randle would have done little to remedy the problems we had today... we scored an enormous amount in the paint.

We needed 3 point shooting and another long body to use against Nurkic, Leonard, and Collins... none of what Julius does.

Julius is going to do great for the Pelicans... but we needed Brook tonight.


I still don’t understand why Brook wasn’t brought back

He even said he would sacrifice if a star(s) came


One of the insiders here said he heard Brook didn't want to come back.

Any other reason doesn't make much sense.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:52 pm    Post subject:

start Lonzo with the stronger supporting team
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:53 pm    Post subject:

I would not go too far by saying we are definitely not making the playoffs, this is afterall just one game, and the first game. Yet, I am concerned. Lets not make excuses for our loss tonight, Portland did not own us tonight. We lost not because Portland is too good, its because we are that bad.

The team desperately need to find a way to improve shooting. Stop with all the defense focus non-sense, if you look at the games that we won, we won because we score more than the opposite team, not because our defense is working. We still suck at that area and looks like we will be for the rest of the season. We just need our guys to get together and put the ball in the basket properly.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:55 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
blackmamba08 wrote:
Cant win without defense. Simple as that.


That is IMHO the most glaring problem — Luke has not instilled any defensive mindset or philosophy


I think the points are inflated because of pace. We played old school Loyola Marymount style... so both teams were going to score a ton of points...

We had like ten steals... my only beef was we had no length to counteract the giants... and Luke didn't assign Ingram to lock down Stauskas when he got hot. But the effort and intensity were there.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:55 pm    Post subject:

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I would not go too far by saying we are definitely not making the playoffs, this is afterall just one game, and the first game. Yet, I am concerned. Lets not make excuses for our loss tonight, Portland did not own us tonight. We lost not because Portland is too good, its because we are that bad.

The team desperately need to find a way to improve shooting. Stop with all the defense focus non-sense, if you look at the games that we won, we won because we score more than the opposite team, not because our defense is working. We still suck at that area and looks like we will be for the rest of the season. We just need our guys to get together and put the ball in the basket properly.



Don’t ignore our defensive woes - Luke has yet to instill any defensive philosophy so we have to score
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:57 pm    Post subject:

statyin wrote:
I would not go too far by saying we are definitely not making the playoffs, this is afterall just one game, and the first game. Yet, I am concerned. Lets not make excuses for our loss tonight, Portland did not own us tonight. We lost not because Portland is too good, its because we are that bad.

The team desperately need to find a way to improve shooting. Stop with all the defense focus non-sense, if you look at the games that we won, we won because we score more than the opposite team, not because our defense is working. We still suck at that area and looks like we will be for the rest of the season. We just need our guys to get together and put the ball in the basket properly.


As long as LBJ stays cool with it... missing the playoffs isn't the worst thing that can happen... We'd add a lotto pick and an elite free agent on top of this already potent lineup. Obviously I don't want to tank... but I'm not dreading it because we'd replace one of the garbage vets with a first rounder and we'd add the elite.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:00 pm    Post subject:

chantruong wrote:
Need to get that win on Saturday for the sanity of the fanbase


Its the first game of the season with a brand new team I didnt expect a win against a playoff team. Its not a big deal either its a long season of ups and downs.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:00 pm    Post subject:

ZenMaster2323 wrote:
Last year we would have lost by 20 or more in Portland under the same circumstances. I consider tonight a success, as much as I wanted to see a win. Saturday will be very tough too. I don't expect us to hit a stride until at least 10-15 games into the season. Stay patient my friends...


Love how we get the bounce back revenge game in Portland November 3rd.
An then November 14th Portland comes to Staples.

The STREAK WILL END!!! LOL

This time we won't underestimate Stauskus


Like another poster said earlier we can only go UP from here.

Still Laker gang gang for life!
Cant wait for Saturday
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:03 pm    Post subject:

What a bummer... bet nobody saw Nik coming! LOL! It's always something in Portland.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:03 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
start Lonzo with the stronger supporting team


I don't know Rondo looked great tonight. Lonzo just needs to be more aggressive offensively. The word is out on this kid that he likes to pass first.

He's gotta attack more. Mamba Mentality needs to be engage by Zo to throw these scouting reports off
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:05 pm    Post subject:

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What a bummer... bet nobody saw Nik coming! LOL! It's always something in Portland.


November 3rd we'll be right back up in Portland for the bounce back revenge game

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:10 pm    Post subject:

for decades now I get the feeling from watching the shooting at the Rose Garden is that the rims are a little off in some way with the east rim being different from the west...
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