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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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LakersLV wrote: | Our "shooters" 3pt%
Danny Green 41%
Quinn Cook 33%
Troy Daniels 31%
Kyle Kuzma 30%
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 30%
Avery Bradley 28%
Alex Caruso 26%
This is embarrassing. |
I think every one of those will go up as the guys get settled and line ups tighten up. As long as we keep finishing with defensive minded players we will keep winning. |
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ducasse Star Player
Joined: 05 Sep 2002 Posts: 8125
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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SuperboyReformed wrote: |
so what?? so our 3point shooters aren't the highest percentage in the league. Would you rather have our 3pt% be very high and NOT be 10-2?? Maybe we can be like the Pistons and be 4-9 with great 3pt% looooll!!
Also, check your expectations. I heard a lot expecting our KCP or green type guys to hit like 45% 3pt. I'm like, you realize if someone did that, they would be like the greatest 3pt shooter of all time. so be realistic here.
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The 3pt shooting might not be so critical to get wins against most teams but in the playoffs if the 3pt shooting doesn't improve a championship is not going to happen.
I would not expect 45% from anyone. I would expect guys to shoot a little better that their career averages because they have Lebron and AD to draw double teams. Only Danny Green is doing it. Bradley, Caruso, Daniels and Cook are all way off their averages. That's a ton of points left on the table. If these guys just shoot their averages there is a great chance at a championship. They need to work on their ball movement to the open man when AD is doubled which well help the numbers.
Career averages / (current percentage):
Green 40% (41%) +1%
Cook 41% (33%) -8%
Daniels 40% (31%) -9%
Kuzma 33% (30%) -3%
Pope 34% (30%) -4%
Bradley 36% (28%) -8%
Caruso 37% (26%) -11% |
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LaLaLakeShow Star Player
Joined: 04 Aug 2019 Posts: 2989
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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ducasse wrote: | SuperboyReformed wrote: |
so what?? so our 3point shooters aren't the highest percentage in the league. Would you rather have our 3pt% be very high and NOT be 10-2?? Maybe we can be like the Pistons and be 4-9 with great 3pt% looooll!!
Also, check your expectations. I heard a lot expecting our KCP or green type guys to hit like 45% 3pt. I'm like, you realize if someone did that, they would be like the greatest 3pt shooter of all time. so be realistic here.
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The 3pt shooting might not be so critical to get wins against most teams but in the playoffs if the 3pt shooting doesn't improve a championship is not going to happen.
I would not expect 45% from anyone. I would expect guys to shoot a little better that their career averages because they have Lebron and AD to draw double teams. Only Danny Green is doing it. Bradley, Caruso, Daniels and Cook are all way off their averages. That's a ton of points left on the table. If these guys just shoot their averages there is a great chance at a championship. They need to work on their ball movement to the open man when AD is doubled which well help the numbers.
Career averages / (current percentage):
Green 40% (41%) +1%
Cook 41% (33%) -8%
Daniels 40% (31%) -9%
Kuzma 33% (30%) -3%
Pope 34% (30%) -4%
Bradley 36% (28%) -8%
Caruso 37% (26%) -11% |
LeBron sure knows how to make his teammates better Lol.
Just kidding LG. It’s not his fault they’re bricking. It’s just annoying knowing that if they happened to be hitting that’s what the talking heads would say, that when you play with LeBron you magically become a better player. |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 11197 Location: The Other Perspective
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Read an article that said this:
"Lakers are 28th in the three-point rate and 25th in three-point shooting percentage...25th in free throw rate— this is like the bizarro Rockets: low threes, low free throws, elite defense."
Pretty terrible. How can we improve on this while maintaining our elite defense? _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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Bard207 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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LandsbergerRules wrote: | Read an article that said this:
"Lakers are 28th in the three-point rate and 25th in three-point shooting percentage...25th in free throw rate— this is like the bizarro Rockets: low threes, low free throws, elite defense."
Pretty terrible. How can we improve on this while maintaining our elite defense? |
Difficult to maybe impossible to maintain the defense while making a huge improvement in the three point shooting and free throw shooting.
The minutes for McGee and Dwight would need to be reduced so Davis could spend more time at Center and open more minutes for shooters. |
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durden-tyler Star Player
Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 1266
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:53 am Post subject: |
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OFFRTG : 109.3 (9) ↑
DEFRTG : 99.9 (1) →
NETRTG : +9.3 (1) → |
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defense Retired Number
Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 39322
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:38 am Post subject: |
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durden-tyler wrote: | OFFRTG : 109.3 (9) ↑
DEFRTG : 99.9 (1) →
NETRTG : +9.3 (1) → |
I'll take this all season long |
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danzag Franchise Player
Joined: 28 Apr 2013 Posts: 22244 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:41 am Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | durden-tyler wrote: | OFFRTG : 109.3 (9) ↑
DEFRTG : 99.9 (1) →
NETRTG : +9.3 (1) → |
I'll take this all season long |
This |
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durden-tyler Star Player
Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 1266
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:45 am Post subject: |
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OFFRTG : 109.6 (9)
DEFRTG : 100.5 (2)
NETRTG : +9.1 (1) |
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ratra_1211 Starting Rotation
Joined: 30 Dec 2015 Posts: 786
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:20 am Post subject: |
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OUR 3pt% may not be great 'cause we put in a lot of effort chasing guys on D. Like, when we hit 40% of the 3s like against OKC our defensive effort was wailing on and off the whole time vs earlier this season when we max out the defensive effort all game long (any of our low pt games) and we could not hit (bleep). just my opinion though. |
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manlisten Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:35 am Post subject: |
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We've hit 40% from 3 in 4 of the last 5 games. I think it's just a matter of rounding into game shape. Hopefully that trend can continue. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points." |
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defense Retired Number
Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 39322
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Differential
PTS : +9.7 (1) points
FGP : +5.1 (3) field goal percentage
3FG : +2.2 (10) 3 point field percentage
REB : +3.2 (5) rebounds
AST : +4.0 (2) assists
BLK : +4.3 (1) blocks |
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markjay Star Player
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 3913 Location: O.C.
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:15 am Post subject: |
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manlisten wrote: | We've hit 40% from 3 in 4 of the last 5 games. I think it's just a matter of rounding into game shape. Hopefully that trend can continue. |
Already went up from 25th in the league to 18th in the league in just a few games. I think it's mostly due to Kuz, AD, and KCP starting to find their 3-point touch after slow starts. |
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pio2u Retired Number
Joined: 26 Dec 2012 Posts: 54520
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Los Angeles Lakers Stats
Points Per Game
Anthony Davis - 25.2
LeBron James - 25.0
Assists Per Game
LeBron James - 11.1
Rondo - 6.0
Field Goal Percentage
LeBron James - 48.9
Anthony Davis - 48.1
Rebounds Per Game
Anthony Davis - 9.0
LeBron James - 7.9
Steals Per Game
Anthony Davis - 1.4
Danny Green - 1.4
Blocks Per Game
Anthony Davis - 3.1
Dwight Howard - 1.6
JaVale McGee - 1.4
Full Team Statistics
Points Per Game
110.9 (15th)
Rebounds Per Game
45.9 (T-16th)
Assists Per Game
26.6 (4th)
Points Allowed
101.1 (30th) |
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Annihilator Star Player
Joined: 02 Jul 2001 Posts: 4035
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | Differential
PTS : +9.7 (1) points
FGP : +5.1 (3) field goal percentage
3FG : +2.2 (10) 3 point field percentage
REB : +3.2 (5) rebounds
AST : +4.0 (2) assists
BLK : +4.3 (1) blocks |
_________________ “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
--Anonymous |
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Mamba81 Star Player
Joined: 19 Nov 2019 Posts: 2027
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | Los Angeles Lakers Stats
Points Per Game
Anthony Davis - 25.2
LeBron James - 25.0
Assists Per Game
LeBron James - 11.1
Rondo - 6.0
Field Goal Percentage
LeBron James - 48.9
Anthony Davis - 48.1
Rebounds Per Game
Anthony Davis - 9.0
LeBron James - 7.9
Steals Per Game
Anthony Davis - 1.4
Danny Green - 1.4
Blocks Per Game
Anthony Davis - 3.1
Dwight Howard - 1.6
JaVale McGee - 1.4
Full Team Statistics
Points Per Game
110.9 (15th)
Rebounds Per Game
45.9 (T-16th)
Assists Per Game
26.6 (4th)
Points Allowed
101.1 (30th) |
think this is wrong. we're first in pts allowed best defense in the league!!! |
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George W Buss Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | Los Angeles Lakers Stats
Points Per Game
Anthony Davis - 25.2
LeBron James - 25.0
Assists Per Game
LeBron James - 11.1
Rondo - 6.0
Field Goal Percentage
LeBron James - 48.9
Anthony Davis - 48.1
Rebounds Per Game
Anthony Davis - 9.0
LeBron James - 7.9
Steals Per Game
Anthony Davis - 1.4
Danny Green - 1.4
Blocks Per Game
Anthony Davis - 3.1
Dwight Howard - 1.6
JaVale McGee - 1.4
Full Team Statistics
Points Per Game
110.9 (15th)
Rebounds Per Game
45.9 (T-16th)
Assists Per Game
26.6 (4th)
Points Allowed
101.1 (30th) |
AD is good. |
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pio2u Retired Number
Joined: 26 Dec 2012 Posts: 54520
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Mamba81 wrote: | pio2u wrote: | Los Angeles Lakers Stats
Points Per Game
Anthony Davis - 25.2
LeBron James - 25.0
Assists Per Game
LeBron James - 11.1
Rondo - 6.0
Field Goal Percentage
LeBron James - 48.9
Anthony Davis - 48.1
Rebounds Per Game
Anthony Davis - 9.0
LeBron James - 7.9
Steals Per Game
Anthony Davis - 1.4
Danny Green - 1.4
Blocks Per Game
Anthony Davis - 3.1
Dwight Howard - 1.6
JaVale McGee - 1.4
Full Team Statistics
Points Per Game
110.9 (15th)
Rebounds Per Game
45.9 (T-16th)
Assists Per Game
26.6 (4th)
Points Allowed
101.1 (30th) |
think this is wrong. we're first in pts allowed best defense in the league!!! |
30th should actually be 1st, (Half empty/half full) this is how it was listed on nba.com. I guess it depends on your perspective. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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3 Point shooting and rank
Last 14 games: 34.2% (20th)
Last 10 games: 34.4% (20th)
Last 05 games: 39.9% (05th)
And who are the culprits the last 5 games?
0.7/0.7 - 100% Dudley
1.2/2.4 - 50.0% KCP
2.0/4.2 - 47.6% Green
2.6/5.6 - 46.4% Kuzma
2.4/6.2 - 38.7% Lebron
1.2/3.2 - 37.5% Alex
1.0/3.0 - 33.3% AD
1.0/3.0 - 33.3% Rondo
Keep it up fellas!!! |
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Treble Clef Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Treble Clef wrote: | This might be the best Lakers team since the 80's. I can't think of many teams in the league that can even give them a challenge. |
I'm doubling down on this.
Superstars.
Depth.
Best defense in the league.
Can also be the best offensive team as whenever they feel like it.
Elite three point shooting.
Elite shotblocking.
Elite clutch play.
Elite rebounding.
Elite passing.
And to top it off, there aren't many teams out there that look tough this year.
The only reason any of these games are even close is because the Lakers seem to get bored. |
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audioaxes Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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I must say that even though we are winning the Lakers have looked a bit shaky against some teams we should be beating more handily. Im hoping its just a matter of us playing down to the competition. _________________ (bleep) Kawhi |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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audioaxes wrote: | I must say that even though we are winning the Lakers have looked a bit shaky against some teams we should be beating more handily. Im hoping its just a matter of us playing down to the competition. |
It's nice to see the offense come around.
But I don't like the defense slipping. |
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manlisten Star Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Looking forward to the stretch of games where we put everything together on both ends of the court. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points." |
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durden-tyler Star Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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OFFRTG : 110.6 (6)
DEFRTG : 102.1 (4)
NETRTG : +8.6 (3) |
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governator Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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durden-tyler wrote: | OFFRTG : 110.6 (6)
DEFRTG : 102.1 (4)
NETRTG : +8.6 (3) |
Top-10
Top-10
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