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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:50 pm    Post subject: Lakers ranked 29th in opposing PPG

If you want to know the real cause of our loses, look no further. Also ranked 25th in 3PT FG%. But we don't need shooters right? We can't do what GS is doing. Lets go get some play makers who can't shoot instead.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Lakers ranked 29th in opposing PPG

george w kush wrote:
If you want to know the real cause of our loses, look no further. Also ranked 25th in 3PT FG%. But we don't need shooters right? We can't do what GS is doing. Lets go get some play makers who can't shoot instead.


A better thread would be if you posted the drtg.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:01 pm    Post subject:

I think we're like 28th defensive efficiency too



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:04 pm    Post subject:

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I think we're like 28th defensive efficiency too



The progress made last season has left town

It was 23rd two games ago. Let's see how it goes.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:28 pm    Post subject:

What’s weird is that most of our starters are above average individual defenders...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:29 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
What’s weird is that most of our starters are above average individual defenders...


2 questions

1)Which 5 are the starters?
2)Of those 5 which are + defenders?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject:

Remember guys, the very day of practice, Luke did nothing but emphasize on defense.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:31 pm    Post subject:

The 25th in defensive rebounding % is the real problem.
Opponent points per game are a result of our pace.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:34 pm    Post subject:

I’m honestly shocked we aren’t last in the league. We’ve been horrible on D. Teams score at will, and if we do get a miss it seems like half the time the other team gets the board and another chance.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:37 pm    Post subject:

We are #2 in FG% only problem is we are trading 2s for 3..
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Lakers ranked 29th in opposing PPG

george w kush wrote:
If you want to know the real cause of our loses, look no further. Also ranked 25th in 3PT FG%. But we don't need shooters right? We can't do what GS is doing. Lets go get some play makers who can't shoot instead.

What do our 3 point shooters (or lack thereof, per your assessment), have to do with our overall defense and specifically, perimeter defense?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Lakers ranked 29th in opposing PPG

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george w kush wrote:
If you want to know the real cause of our loses, look no further. Also ranked 25th in 3PT FG%. But we don't need shooters right? We can't do what GS is doing. Lets go get some play makers who can't shoot instead.

What do our 3 point shooters (or lack thereof, per your assessment), have to do with our overall defense and specifically, perimeter defense?


We clank more 3s which allows the defense to grab the board and go thru our Swiss cheese defense on the other end.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Lakers ranked 29th in opposing PPG

george w kush wrote:
gblews wrote:
george w kush wrote:
If you want to know the real cause of our loses, look no further. Also ranked 25th in 3PT FG%. But we don't need shooters right? We can't do what GS is doing. Lets go get some play makers who can't shoot instead.

What do our 3 point shooters (or lack thereof, per your assessment), have to do with our overall defense and specifically, perimeter defense?


We clank more 3s which allows the defense to grab the board and go thru our Swiss cheese defense on the other end.


Wasn't that notion disproven?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:53 pm    Post subject:

watchME wrote:
We are #2 in FG% only problem is we are trading 2s for 3..


We got beat 14 to 12 at the 3 point line tonight. I believe they made more 3s than their opponents the last 3 games prior. Trading 2s for 3s isn't the problem. Not getting stops remains the problem.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:01 pm    Post subject:

The defense has been putrid, what a disappointment and eyesore given the progress we made on that end last season. Guys not closing out, not fighting through screens, just standing around and cherry picking before we get the rebound. AWFUL BASKETBALL

It all starts with the vets and especially our team leader, current level of effort won't get it done and its actually rubbing off on our young guys. Other than BI the other young players have all regressed on defense.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:24 pm    Post subject:

defense wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
What’s weird is that most of our starters are above average individual defenders...


2 questions

1)Which 5 are the starters?
2)Of those 5 which are + defenders?


Ball/Rondo are both plus defenders. McGee is a plus defender. Not sure about Ingram but I would guess he is. LeBron was historically a plus defender... not sure about now.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:27 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
defense wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
What’s weird is that most of our starters are above average individual defenders...


2 questions

1)Which 5 are the starters?
2)Of those 5 which are + defenders?


Ball/Rondo are both plus defenders. McGee is a plus defender. Not sure about Ingram but I would guess he is. LeBron was historically a plus defender... not sure about now.


Are you basing this on actual data, which we have, or just your intuition? Because the data doesn't support some of your assertions....
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:14 am    Post subject:

Losing randle killed our defense
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:20 am    Post subject:

Our perimeter D was good last year and I expected us to be even better this year. We give up far to many uncontested shots. If we can figure that out, we will be fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:56 am    Post subject:

calistrtballr wrote:
Losing randle killed our defense

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:19 am    Post subject:

Kyle Kuzma is second on the team in minutes at 32.6. Out of all rotational players he has the 2nd worse DRTG and DBPM.He's a very good scorer but he gets destroyed consistently on the defensive end for 30 minutes a night and we don't have a roster that has the ability to make up for it. People get so woo'd by his offensive output that they don't realize how big of a liability he is on the other side of the floor. That's why starting him made no sense, unless he can play defense, all his minutes should be at the back up power forward spot. Around 25-30 minutes per game, depending on his level of play that night.

Rajon Rondo is a cool guy, but he's BARELY doing better then Kyle Kuzma on the defensive end, and kills the ball movement on the other end more then Kuzma. He's also a huge liability on the defensive end. When both of these guys are on the floor, we're playing 3 v. 5 on the defensive end.

Our top 7 in rotation is: Lebron, Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, Ball, McGee and Rondo.

Lebron is old, but Hart/Lonzo/Ingram/McGee are both two way players (relative to our team atleast) that I think can do real damage with Lebron. Rondo/Kuzma are bringing the group down as a whole.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:37 am    Post subject:

calistrtballr wrote:
Losing randle killed our defense


and our rebounding.

Two things we're severely behind on this year and is costing us big time.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:10 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:14 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
calistrtballr wrote:
Losing randle killed our defense


and our rebounding.

Two things we're severely behind on this year and is costing us big time.

Definitely hurt REBOUNDING. However our defense sucked with or without Randle.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:23 am    Post subject:

I hate talking about a guy who is not on our team but I have to. I guess it is just me, but I think JR was a disappointment as far as rebounding is concerned. He was tenacious under the glass in first couple of years and then digressed. You would think that his rebounding numbers would have been huge last year considering he was playing with Brook (who is allergic to rebounding) and he spent the majority of his time in close proximity to the basket.
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