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Jordan-esque Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:40 pm Post subject: 2004 USA Basketball Team had NO Shooters (and the Lakers) |
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Once upon a time in 2004, USA Basketball assembled a young team full of future HOFers including Duncan, LeBron, Wade, Iverson. One thing USA Basketball forgot and was heavily criticized for was their lack of adding real shooters to that team.
Sound familiar?
That 2004 USA Team of course infamously failed to win gold for the first time in 12 years.
2018, the Lakers assembled a team that de-emphasized the need for real shooters, which also has been heavily criticized.
To be continued... _________________
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Not entirely true, we have a pure shooter! His name is Svi!
Svi for three! _________________ |
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KobeDunk Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:44 am Post subject: Re: 2004 USA Basketball Team had NO Shooters (and the Lakers) |
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Jordan-esque wrote: | Once upon a time in 2004, USA Basketball assembled a young team full of future HOFers including Duncan, LeBron, Wade, Iverson. One thing USA Basketball forgot and was heavily criticized for was their lack of adding real shooters to that team.
Sound familiar?
That 2004 USA Team of course infamously failed to win gold for the first time in 12 years.
2018, the Lakers assembled a team that de-emphasized the need for real shooters, which also has been heavily criticized.
To be continued... |
NO KOBE NO GOLD! Simple! |
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noahp45 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:15 am Post subject: Re: 2004 USA Basketball Team had NO Shooters (and the Lakers) |
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KobeDunk wrote: | Jordan-esque wrote: | Once upon a time in 2004, USA Basketball assembled a young team full of future HOFers including Duncan, LeBron, Wade, Iverson. One thing USA Basketball forgot and was heavily criticized for was their lack of adding real shooters to that team.
Sound familiar?
That 2004 USA Team of course infamously failed to win gold for the first time in 12 years.
2018, the Lakers assembled a team that de-emphasized the need for real shooters, which also has been heavily criticized.
To be continued... |
NO KOBE NO GOLD! Simple! |
THIS^^^^
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E_Wulf420 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:22 am Post subject: Re: 2004 USA Basketball Team had NO Shooters (and the Lakers) |
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noahp45 wrote: | KobeDunk wrote: | Jordan-esque wrote: | Once upon a time in 2004, USA Basketball assembled a young team full of future HOFers including Duncan, LeBron, Wade, Iverson. One thing USA Basketball forgot and was heavily criticized for was their lack of adding real shooters to that team.
Sound familiar?
That 2004 USA Team of course infamously failed to win gold for the first time in 12 years.
2018, the Lakers assembled a team that de-emphasized the need for real shooters, which also has been heavily criticized.
To be continued... |
NO KOBE NO GOLD! Simple! |
THIS^^^^
Mods please lock this thread |
As a kid i never understood why the best player in the world didn't go to the olympics that year. They probably would of loss in '08 if it wasn't for him getting hot in the 4th. _________________
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Lonzo-Lite Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:24 am Post subject: |
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The real reason that USA team lost because they took too many 3 point shots for a team not built on 3 point shooting. They usually shoot more 3s than the other team, but made far less.
Sounds eerily similar to this Lakers team. _________________ Tacos |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:25 am Post subject: |
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We won the next three with Olympic Melo. Let that sink in for a second. |
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CRoost Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Reggie Miller address that before the Olympics. 2000 was tough too. It’s one game and teams can play zone so it was obvious. |
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PhiberOptik Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: 2004 USA Basketball Team had NO Shooters (and the Lakers) |
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Jordan-esque wrote: | Once upon a time in 2004, USA Basketball assembled a young team full of future HOFers including Duncan, LeBron, Wade, Iverson. One thing USA Basketball forgot and was heavily criticized for was their lack of adding real shooters to that team.
Sound familiar?
That 2004 USA Team of course infamously failed to win gold for the first time in 12 years.
2018, the Lakers assembled a team that de-emphasized the need for real shooters, which also has been heavily criticized.
To be continued... |
Hence they called him .....LeBronze? _________________ Let's Go Lakers!!! |
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st8ktacos Starting Rotation
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This team can shoot but they can't shoot like the top teams. That's obvious. But you're not going to beat GS at their own game anyways. |
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22 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: 2004 USA Basketball Team had NO Shooters (and the Lakers) |
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PhiberOptik wrote: | Jordan-esque wrote: | Once upon a time in 2004, USA Basketball assembled a young team full of future HOFers including Duncan, LeBron, Wade, Iverson. One thing USA Basketball forgot and was heavily criticized for was their lack of adding real shooters to that team.
Sound familiar?
That 2004 USA Team of course infamously failed to win gold for the first time in 12 years.
2018, the Lakers assembled a team that de-emphasized the need for real shooters, which also has been heavily criticized.
To be continued... |
Hence they called him .....LeBronze? | |
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PartyMan Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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We didn’t have 1 of the 3 best players in the game at the time. Kobe, Shaq or KG. Or Tmac for that matter.
Shooting analytics schmanalytics. _________________ We pour this booze and we drink this booze because we think it's yummy. YUMMY! So over the tounge and down the throat to party in our tummys.
DOWN THE HOLA BITC*OLA!!! |
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jonnybravo Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: 2004 USA Basketball Team had NO Shooters (and the Lakers) |
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E_Wulf420 wrote: | noahp45 wrote: | KobeDunk wrote: | Jordan-esque wrote: | Once upon a time in 2004, USA Basketball assembled a young team full of future HOFers including Duncan, LeBron, Wade, Iverson. One thing USA Basketball forgot and was heavily criticized for was their lack of adding real shooters to that team.
Sound familiar?
That 2004 USA Team of course infamously failed to win gold for the first time in 12 years.
2018, the Lakers assembled a team that de-emphasized the need for real shooters, which also has been heavily criticized.
To be continued... |
NO KOBE NO GOLD! Simple! |
THIS^^^^
Mods please lock this thread |
As a kid i never understood why the best player in the world didn't go to the olympics that year. They probably would of loss in '08 if it wasn't for him getting hot in the 4th. |
Colorado was still too fresh at the time. _________________ KOBE |
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SuperboyReformed Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: 2004 USA Basketball Team had NO Shooters (and the Lakers) |
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jonnybravo wrote: | E_Wulf420 wrote: | noahp45 wrote: | KobeDunk wrote: | Jordan-esque wrote: | Once upon a time in 2004, USA Basketball assembled a young team full of future HOFers including Duncan, LeBron, Wade, Iverson. One thing USA Basketball forgot and was heavily criticized for was their lack of adding real shooters to that team.
Sound familiar?
That 2004 USA Team of course infamously failed to win gold for the first time in 12 years.
2018, the Lakers assembled a team that de-emphasized the need for real shooters, which also has been heavily criticized.
To be continued... |
NO KOBE NO GOLD! Simple! |
THIS^^^^
Mods please lock this thread |
As a kid i never understood why the best player in the world didn't go to the olympics that year. They probably would of loss in '08 if it wasn't for him getting hot in the 4th. |
Colorado was still too fresh at the time. |
colorado of course. But i think people are also forgetting that until 2008, the Olympic team wasnt the biggest deal to the NBA players. I forgot what changed in 2008, but there was a rejuvenation. I think a lot had to do with not winning gold in previous years. 96 was star studded, 00 and 04 were not, 08 was. Shaq didnt play in 04 either. THe big name and star was Duncan, and he failed very badly lol. When people talk about DUncan and Kobe in the 2000s...my first thought is Duncan failed in 2004, and in 2008 Kobe delivered in epic fashion. |
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22 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: 2004 USA Basketball Team had NO Shooters (and the Lakers) |
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SuperboyReformed wrote: | jonnybravo wrote: | E_Wulf420 wrote: | noahp45 wrote: | KobeDunk wrote: | Jordan-esque wrote: | Once upon a time in 2004, USA Basketball assembled a young team full of future HOFers including Duncan, LeBron, Wade, Iverson. One thing USA Basketball forgot and was heavily criticized for was their lack of adding real shooters to that team.
Sound familiar?
That 2004 USA Team of course infamously failed to win gold for the first time in 12 years.
2018, the Lakers assembled a team that de-emphasized the need for real shooters, which also has been heavily criticized.
To be continued... |
NO KOBE NO GOLD! Simple! |
THIS^^^^
Mods please lock this thread |
As a kid i never understood why the best player in the world didn't go to the olympics that year. They probably would of loss in '08 if it wasn't for him getting hot in the 4th. |
Colorado was still too fresh at the time. |
colorado of course. But i think people are also forgetting that until 2008, the Olympic team wasnt the biggest deal to the NBA players. I forgot what changed in 2008, but there was a rejuvenation. I think a lot had to do with not winning gold in previous years. 96 was star studded, 00 and 04 were not, 08 was. Shaq didnt play in 04 either. THe big name and star was Duncan, and he failed very badly lol. When people talk about DUncan and Kobe in the 2000s...my first thought is Duncan failed in 2004, and in 2008 Kobe delivered in epic fashion. |
Yup. I never have forgotten Duncan’s epic failure. He sulked and blamed it on the refs and vowed never to play international again. Took his ball and went home |
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:41 am Post subject: Re: 2004 USA Basketball Team had NO Shooters (and the Lakers) |
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KobeDunk wrote: | Jordan-esque wrote: | Once upon a time in 2004, USA Basketball assembled a young team full of future HOFers including Duncan, LeBron, Wade, Iverson. One thing USA Basketball forgot and was heavily criticized for was their lack of adding real shooters to that team.
Sound familiar?
That 2004 USA Team of course infamously failed to win gold for the first time in 12 years.
2018, the Lakers assembled a team that de-emphasized the need for real shooters, which also has been heavily criticized.
To be continued... |
NO KOBE NO GOLD! Simple! |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Cmon, this is so dumb. Different era! Just to put it into perspective...
In 2003-2004, the fastest pace team was the Denver Nuggets at 93.3.
That team today, would not only be the slowest team in the league today but it would be the slowest by a significant margin.
Slowest team today is the Sacramento Kings at 94.9. |
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Lonzo-Lite Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:36 am Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | Cmon, this is so dumb. Different era! Just to put it into perspective...
In 2003-2004, the fastest pace team was the Denver Nuggets at 93.3.
That team today, would not only be the slowest team in the league today but it would be the slowest by a significant margin.
Slowest team today is the Sacramento Kings at 94.9. |
I kind of disagree because if I understood correctly, the point being made was 3 point shooting. If we're just talking about 3 point shooting, that stat has always been the same across the board in the NBA for the last 24 years since 1994 at about 35% despite the changing pace of the game.
In 2004 the NBA season had a 3 point shooting pace of 34.7%, but that 2004 USA Olympics team shot only 29.5% from 3s while the World shot a blistering 47.2% from deep! That gap in difference is huge! The World made almost twice the amount of 3s than the Americans did 83 vs 46. _________________ Tacos |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Lonzo-Lite wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | Cmon, this is so dumb. Different era! Just to put it into perspective...
In 2003-2004, the fastest pace team was the Denver Nuggets at 93.3.
That team today, would not only be the slowest team in the league today but it would be the slowest by a significant margin.
Slowest team today is the Sacramento Kings at 94.9. |
I kind of disagree because if I understood correctly, the point being made was 3 point shooting. If we're just talking about 3 point shooting, that stat has always been the same across the board in the NBA for the last 24 years since 1994 at about 35% despite the changing pace of the game.
In 2004 the NBA season had a 3 point shooting pace of 34.7%, but that 2004 USA Olympics team shot only 29.5% from 3s while the World shot a blistering 47.2% from deep! That gap in difference is huge! The World made almost twice the amount of 3s than the Americans did 83 vs 46. |
Shooting from deep wasn't as critical back then as it is today. The team that shot the most 3s in 2004, would be 28th in 3PA today.
And that team back then featured Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis, Brent Barry, and Vladimir Radmonovic. LOL.
And they were shooting fewer 3s than the LA Clippers are today. |
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