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Steve007
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | slavavov wrote: | | If we can do better than a 6th or 7th seed, then settling for a lower seed just to avoid GSW in the 2nd round would be cowardly. Not exactly the right way to build a championship culture. |
Phil Jackson avoided the Jazz in the first or second round and won 5 titles with us. |
Is this sarcasm? You mean he avoided the Jazz by getting 67 wins and the #1 seed?
That team beat the Jazz 113-67. The Jazz weren’t going to beat that team; Portland was the much greater threat and Utah was clearly fading at that time. |
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SuperboyReformed
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | HCA is always Important for a contending team. |
Good thing we're not contending! |
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dont_be_a_wuss
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Steve007 wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | slavavov wrote: | | If we can do better than a 6th or 7th seed, then settling for a lower seed just to avoid GSW in the 2nd round would be cowardly. Not exactly the right way to build a championship culture. |
Phil Jackson avoided the Jazz in the first or second round and won 5 titles with us. |
Is this sarcasm? You mean he avoided the Jazz by getting 67 wins and the #1 seed?
That team beat the Jazz 113-67. The Jazz weren’t going to beat that team; Portland was the much greater threat and Utah was clearly fading at that time. |
No. There are quotes from Shaq and maybe others about it. |
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Inspector Gadget
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| SuperboyReformed wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | HCA is always Important for a contending team. |
Good thing we're not contending! |
We are contenders, not sure why you think otherwise and what you’re arguenent is to prove your point. |
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LKA
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Doesnt matter imo this team as currently constructed isnt good enough to even make it to the 2nd round |
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Steve007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Steve007 wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | slavavov wrote: | | If we can do better than a 6th or 7th seed, then settling for a lower seed just to avoid GSW in the 2nd round would be cowardly. Not exactly the right way to build a championship culture. |
Phil Jackson avoided the Jazz in the first or second round and won 5 titles with us. |
Is this sarcasm? You mean he avoided the Jazz by getting 67 wins and the #1 seed?
That team beat the Jazz 113-67. The Jazz weren’t going to beat that team; Portland was the much greater threat and Utah was clearly fading at that time. |
No. There are quotes from Shaq and maybe others about it. |
How did they try to avoid the Jazz though? They took the #1 seed. They didn’t purposely lose and drop to a lower seed.
I remember at the time being worried about Portland and the Spurs (San Antonio played the Lakers much tougher that year, was the defending champ and swept the Lakers the year before).
If they were worried about Utah it would surprise me. |
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AFireInside619
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, but your epiphany is too premature. Let’s just make the playoffs first and go from there. If we’re already in and we have to rest on the last day for a more favorable match up, then so be it. But calling our shot with 71 games left is a bit silly.
Plus Lebron and the guys would probably welcome the challenge of the Warriors.
Plus the Warriors could be hurt the first round.
Plus the Warriors may not even be the best team in the league. (Raptors, Boston, Bucks, Sixers, etc could be) |
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Treble Clef
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:52 am Post subject: |
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I see no reason to try to avoid the Warriors. I think the Lakers are the only team that have a chance of beating them so it isn't like they can expect someone else to take the warriors out.
The Lakers have LeBron and the Warriors like to party in LA and historically don't play well here. Even up in Oakland, curry and klay shoot well below their averages when the Lakers are in town. |
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kb24GOAT
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:15 am Post subject: |
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| i want whatever you guys are smoking. we would get smashed by the warriors. i would rather have them play houston and OKC to get to the WCF before they play us. whatever seed we need to get for that to happen is ok with me. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| Yep. 2nd seed baby! |
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SuperboyReformed
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| sooner we play the warriors the better. even if we lose. that way we learn how to beat them directly. better than losing to the blazers or something. |
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markjay
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | markjay wrote: | | What? We have one 4 of our last 5 games. Even if we win only 2 out of 3 from here on out, that may be enough for second seed. Second or third seed are perfectly doable. |
Winning 2 of 3 games is a 55 win pace. Put the glasses down!
We are among the healthiest teams in the NBA too. |
2 out of 3 from here on out would make 53 wins. Entirely doable. In fact, if our good health continues, I expect more. |
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Lakers_Jester
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Gotta face dubs eventually, if you're trying to duck them, pyschologically you've already lost. Also the longer you wait the more worn down you'll be physically when you face them. |
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BadGuy
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess the assumption is that they'll be more worn down than us if we face them later in the playoffs. However, if we're going to face them at some point no matter what (barring injuries), it really should not matter when we face them. |
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SuperboyReformed
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| BadGuy wrote: | | I guess the assumption is that they'll be more worn down than us if we face them later in the playoffs. However, if we're going to face them at some point no matter what (barring injuries), it really should not matter when we face them. |
assuming the path to a ring goes through gsw, we really want to play them as much as possible. id strongly desire a 1st round meeting. playing other teams is less productive. and losing before the finals is all the same for most laker fans. |
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€H£M£$TR¥
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What kind of mentality is this?! Always play like you’ve prepared to win. If it’s a pick up game, if you’re playing knock out, 21, full run or smokers rules... WIN. Win every game. If you fear the dubs, you’ve already lost.
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BigGameHames
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | | What kind of mentality is this?! Always play like you’ve prepared to win. If it’s a pick up game, if you’re playing knock out, 21, full run or smokers rules... WIN. Win every game. If you fear the dubs, you’ve already lost. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | | What kind of mentality is this?! Always play like you’ve prepared to win. If it’s a pick up game, if you’re playing knock out, 21, full run or smokers rules... WIN. Win every game. If you fear the dubs, you’ve already lost. |
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PartyMan
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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To be the man, you gotta beat the man. Whoo!
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activeverb
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:33 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone rooting for a 6th or 7th seed to avoid facing the Warriors until WCF? |
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| BigBallerBrand wrote: | Realistically we will not get a 2nd or 3rd seed....so we should avoid the 4/5th seeds to avoid GSW in the 2nd round and obviously avoid 8th seed to face them in the 1st round.
Better to coast into a 6/7th seed and keep Lebron fresh and everyone else healthy rather than run everyone to the ground just to end up with a 4/5th seed and get bounced earlier |
Last year, the #3 team won 49 games; the #4-5-6 teams won 48 games; the #7-8 teams won 47 games; the #9th team won 46 games.
The idea that the Lakers can "coast" to a specific playoff spot is ridiculous. Ypu need to try to win as many as you can and hope you make the playoffs. |
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dont_be_a_wuss
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone rooting for a 6th or 7th seed to avoid facing the Warriors until WCF? |
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| activeverb wrote: | | BigBallerBrand wrote: | Realistically we will not get a 2nd or 3rd seed....so we should avoid the 4/5th seeds to avoid GSW in the 2nd round and obviously avoid 8th seed to face them in the 1st round.
Better to coast into a 6/7th seed and keep Lebron fresh and everyone else healthy rather than run everyone to the ground just to end up with a 4/5th seed and get bounced earlier |
Last year, the #3 team won 49 games; the #4-5-6 teams won 48 games; the #7-8 teams won 47 games; the #9th team won 46 games.
The idea that the Lakers can "coast" to a specific playoff spot is ridiculous. Ypu need to try to win as many as you can and hope you make the playoffs. |
Nobody here is a lakers player or staff. Nobody is talking about losing or coasting, just talking about “hoping” for one spot over another. OP is talking about 6/7 being preferred to 4/5. Not talking about tanking to get there. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| markjay wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | markjay wrote: | | What? We have one 4 of our last 5 games. Even if we win only 2 out of 3 from here on out, that may be enough for second seed. Second or third seed are perfectly doable. |
Winning 2 of 3 games is a 55 win pace. Put the glasses down!
We are among the healthiest teams in the NBA too. |
2 out of 3 from here on out would make 53 wins. Entirely doable. In fact, if our good health continues, I expect more. |
We'd need to mop up the weak teams.
Because I don't see us beating teams like the Warriors, Thunder, Bucks, Raptors at a 2 out of 3 rate.
But we could make up the difference by sweeping our season series against weak teams like New York, Atlanta, Orlando, Brooklyn, Phoenix.
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lakerican
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| Well, Sunday we were 8th seed and today we are 11th with Houston in our tails. We have to win every game we can; pretty, ugly, doesn't matter. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:25 am Post subject: |
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| I say screw the matchups and go for the highest seed we can get. |
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activeverb
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:54 am Post subject: Re: Anyone rooting for a 6th or 7th seed to avoid facing the Warriors until WCF? |
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | BigBallerBrand wrote: | Realistically we will not get a 2nd or 3rd seed....so we should avoid the 4/5th seeds to avoid GSW in the 2nd round and obviously avoid 8th seed to face them in the 1st round.
Better to coast into a 6/7th seed and keep Lebron fresh and everyone else healthy rather than run everyone to the ground just to end up with a 4/5th seed and get bounced earlier |
Last year, the #3 team won 49 games; the #4-5-6 teams won 48 games; the #7-8 teams won 47 games; the #9th team won 46 games.
The idea that the Lakers can "coast" to a specific playoff spot is ridiculous. Ypu need to try to win as many as you can and hope you make the playoffs. |
Nobody here is a lakers player or staff. Nobody is talking about losing or coasting, just talking about “hoping” for one spot over another. OP is talking about 6/7 being preferred to 4/5. Not talking about tanking to get there. |
No. The original poster talked about coasting into a lower spot rather than fighting for a higher spot to keep LeBron fresh. |
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