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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:18 pm    Post subject:

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I still dont understand all the love and affection for Wade

Guys like Jordan, Kobe, Bron (one day) definitely deserve the fairwell tour .. but Wade? Idk about that one chief.


People are calling him the third best shooting guard behind Jordan and Kobe


Wade won 1 with Shaq and a weak NBA landscape. He won 2 with LBJ and Bosh. Solid player in his prime, but not transcendent.

Personally I think Klay is already better than him but what the hell do I know. If you in good with Bron you get to write your own narrative I guess.


Respectfully disagree. Replace klay with wade when he won the first ring and I doubt the heat still win. Wade was a master at getting to the line. He was James harden before James Harden
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:19 pm    Post subject:

All talk about trading BI is nonsense. He’s gonna be hitting his stride when Lebron retires. He will be 24 then.

We don’t need to trade ANYONE.

Literally. BI, Kuz, Zo, and Hart should be untouchable if not for the sheer fact that they are cost controlled for years to come.

We have a max cap slot opening up. Having depth is a GREAT thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:21 pm    Post subject:

poppajons wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
drae wrote:
LKA wrote:
I still dont understand all the love and affection for Wade

Guys like Jordan, Kobe, Bron (one day) definitely deserve the fairwell tour .. but Wade? Idk about that one chief.


People are calling him the third best shooting guard behind Jordan and Kobe


Wade won 1 with Shaq and a weak NBA landscape. He won 2 with LBJ and Bosh. Solid player in his prime, but not transcendent.

Personally I think Klay is already better than him but what the hell do I know. If you in good with Bron you get to write your own narrative I guess.


Respectfully disagree. Replace klay with wade when he won the first ring and I doubt the heat still win. Wade was a master at getting to the line. He was James harden before James Harden


Wade could take over games, Klay doesn’t really have that ability.

Wades always been better than Harden since he was a two way player. He’s a top 5 all time 2 guard.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:22 pm    Post subject:

Doc JC wrote:
All talk about trading BI is nonsense. He’s gonna be hitting his stride when Lebron retires. He will be 24 then.

We don’t need to trade ANYONE.

Literally. BI, Kuz, Zo, and Hart should be untouchable if not for the sheer fact that they are cost controlled for years to come.

We have a max cap slot opening up. Having depth is a GREAT thing.


Ingram wont be worth the money when that time comes, imo.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:30 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
Hopefully Zo goes off for 10pts


Looks like you got your wish!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:37 pm    Post subject:

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Hopefully Zo goes off for 10pts


Looks like you got your wish!


Lol at goes off for 10 pts!!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:39 pm    Post subject:

LandsbergerRules wrote:
TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
JerryWest_44 wrote:
Hopefully Zo goes off for 10pts


Looks like you got your wish!


Lol at goes off for 10 pts!!


Lonzo 4/11 10 points
KCP 4/11 11 points
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:41 pm    Post subject:

I am enjoying the James worthy claps this season! Being this many games above 500 is something we haven’t seen in a while.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:45 am    Post subject:

CervantesRises wrote:
drae wrote:
LKA wrote:
I still dont understand all the love and affection for Wade

Guys like Jordan, Kobe, Bron (one day) definitely deserve the fairwell tour .. but Wade? Idk about that one chief.


People are calling him the third best shooting guard behind Jordan and Kobe


Wade won 1 with Shaq and a weak NBA landscape. He won 2 with LBJ and Bosh. Solid player in his prime, but not transcendent.

Personally I think Klay is already better than him but what the hell do I know. If you in good with Bron you get to write your own narrative I guess.


Big Klay fan... But it's not even close. Klay can't be the #1 option. Surely can't carry a team like Wade did in his younger years.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:21 am    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
drae wrote:
LKA wrote:
I still dont understand all the love and affection for Wade

Guys like Jordan, Kobe, Bron (one day) definitely deserve the fairwell tour .. but Wade? Idk about that one chief.


People are calling him the third best shooting guard behind Jordan and Kobe


Wade won 1 with Shaq and a weak NBA landscape. He won 2 with LBJ and Bosh. Solid player in his prime, but not transcendent.

Personally I think Klay is already better than him but what the hell do I know. If you in good with Bron you get to write your own narrative I guess.


Big Klay fan... But it's not even close. Klay can't be the #1 option. Surely can't carry a team like Wade did in his younger years.

Peak Wade was every bit as good as peak Kobe Bryant.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:58 am    Post subject:

Joe Pesci wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
drae wrote:
LKA wrote:
I still dont understand all the love and affection for Wade

Guys like Jordan, Kobe, Bron (one day) definitely deserve the fairwell tour .. but Wade? Idk about that one chief.


People are calling him the third best shooting guard behind Jordan and Kobe


Wade won 1 with Shaq and a weak NBA landscape. He won 2 with LBJ and Bosh. Solid player in his prime, but not transcendent.

Personally I think Klay is already better than him but what the hell do I know. If you in good with Bron you get to write your own narrative I guess.


Big Klay fan... But it's not even close. Klay can't be the #1 option. Surely can't carry a team like Wade did in his younger years.

Peak Wade was every bit as good as peak Kobe Bryant.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:52 am    Post subject:

Joe Pesci wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
drae wrote:
LKA wrote:
I still dont understand all the love and affection for Wade

Guys like Jordan, Kobe, Bron (one day) definitely deserve the fairwell tour .. but Wade? Idk about that one chief.


People are calling him the third best shooting guard behind Jordan and Kobe


Wade won 1 with Shaq and a weak NBA landscape. He won 2 with LBJ and Bosh. Solid player in his prime, but not transcendent.

Personally I think Klay is already better than him but what the hell do I know. If you in good with Bron you get to write your own narrative I guess.


Big Klay fan... But it's not even close. Klay can't be the #1 option. Surely can't carry a team like Wade did in his younger years.

Peak Wade was every bit as good as peak Kobe Bryant.


Nah.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:59 am    Post subject:

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Peak Wade was every bit as good as peak Kobe Bryant.


🤔

Except Peak Kobe scored 81 points in a single game. Including scoring 40+ on every single NBA team. 50 plus 4 games straight (a record that he and Wilt only share).

Overall comparison it’s not really close.

Kobe, MJ, and Lebron are tier 1 Hall Of Famers.
Whereas DWade is definitely a tier 2 HAll of Famer ,which is still nothing to sneeze at.

One department I will give DWade the edge is probably defense. I remember one season Dwyane went for 100+blocks and 100+ steals. Which for a swingman getting over a hundred blocks in a season is very rare.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:02 am    Post subject:

Joe Pesci wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
drae wrote:
LKA wrote:
I still dont understand all the love and affection for Wade

Guys like Jordan, Kobe, Bron (one day) definitely deserve the fairwell tour .. but Wade? Idk about that one chief.


People are calling him the third best shooting guard behind Jordan and Kobe


Wade won 1 with Shaq and a weak NBA landscape. He won 2 with LBJ and Bosh. Solid player in his prime, but not transcendent.

Personally I think Klay is already better than him but what the hell do I know. If you in good with Bron you get to write your own narrative I guess.


Big Klay fan... But it's not even close. Klay can't be the #1 option. Surely can't carry a team like Wade did in his younger years.

Peak Wade was every bit as good as peak Kobe Bryant.


Stop it
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:30 am    Post subject:

What is all this nonsense. 3rd best shooting guard of all-time. He deserves it.
Klay better than him? That's nonsense. A guy who is dependent on others getting him shots will never ever be part of the all time greats. They can be known as all time shooters though. Klay Thompson is in the class of Reggie Miller and Ray Allen.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:32 am    Post subject:

Joe Pesci wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
drae wrote:
LKA wrote:
I still dont understand all the love and affection for Wade

Guys like Jordan, Kobe, Bron (one day) definitely deserve the fairwell tour .. but Wade? Idk about that one chief.


People are calling him the third best shooting guard behind Jordan and Kobe


Wade won 1 with Shaq and a weak NBA landscape. He won 2 with LBJ and Bosh. Solid player in his prime, but not transcendent.

Personally I think Klay is already better than him but what the hell do I know. If you in good with Bron you get to write your own narrative I guess.


Big Klay fan... But it's not even close. Klay can't be the #1 option. Surely can't carry a team like Wade did in his younger years.

Peak Wade was every bit as good as peak Kobe Bryant.


#1 I said 'Personally.' I just don't like Wade. And I really like Klay's range and defense. This was not an attempt to be objective. But if we're going to be objective on ball dominant players Jerry West & Allen Iverson say hello...I would take both in their prime over DWade who is a Champion thanks to Shaq, the Refs and a weak East, and then LBJ & Bosh joining him. If LBJ doesn't go to Miami he doesn't sniff another championship. To me he's OVERrated.

#2 He ain't no where near Peak Kobe...that's just absurd. Kobe spent most of his career getting compared to Jordan. Wade spent most of his career thinking he was as good as Kobe even though no one agreed with him on that.

This response is to everyone who took a light hearted comment of contempt as gospel. And yes I would rather have Klay on my team than DWade just the same.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:47 am    Post subject:

And where do you Rank DWade in NBA history of all players...let me know when I get to one that he should be above...

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MJ
Magic
Kobe
Bron
Shaq
Russell
Wilt
Bird
West
Big O
Duncan
Dream
KD
Curry
Pippen
Dr. J
Mailman
Isiah
AI

Is he a Top 20 player of all-time? Debateable.

Is he a Top 10 player of all-time? Doubtful.

Is he a Top 5 player of all-time? Hell to the Naw
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject:

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And where do you Rank DWade in NBA history of all players...let me know when I get to one that he should be above...

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MJ
Magic
Kobe
Bron
Shaq
Russell
Wilt
Bird
West
Big O
Duncan
Dream
KD
Curry
Pippen
Dr. J
Mailman
Isiah
AI

Is he a Top 20 player of all-time? Debateable.

Is he a Top 10 player of all-time? Doubtful.

Is he a Top 5 player of all-time? Hell to the Naw


How on Earth do you have people like Pippen over Wade? Are you serious?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:32 pm    Post subject:

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And where do you Rank DWade in NBA history of all players...let me know when I get to one that he should be above...

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MJ
Magic
Kobe
Bron
Shaq
Russell
Wilt
Bird
West
Big O
Duncan
Dream
KD
Curry
Pippen
Dr. J
Mailman
Isiah
AI

Is he a Top 20 player of all-time? Debateable.

Is he a Top 10 player of all-time? Doubtful.

Is he a Top 5 player of all-time? Hell to the Naw


KD who won nothing without going to the Greatest team of all time? Curry who used to choke and only beat Lebron in the first final because Love and Irving was injured?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:33 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
And where do you Rank DWade in NBA history of all players...let me know when I get to one that he should be above...

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MJ
Magic
Kobe
Bron
Shaq
Russell
Wilt
Bird
West
Big O
Duncan
Dream
KD
Curry
Pippen
Dr. J
Mailman
Isiah
AI

Is he a Top 20 player of all-time? Debateable.

Is he a Top 10 player of all-time? Doubtful.

Is he a Top 5 player of all-time? Hell to the Naw


How on Earth do you have people like Pippen over Wade? Are you serious?


Why’s that so controversial?
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BigGameHames wrote:
drae wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
And where do you Rank DWade in NBA history of all players...let me know when I get to one that he should be above...

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MJ
Magic
Kobe
Bron
Shaq
Russell
Wilt
Bird
West
Big O
Duncan
Dream
KD
Curry
Pippen
Dr. J
Mailman
Isiah
AI

Is he a Top 20 player of all-time? Debateable.

Is he a Top 10 player of all-time? Doubtful.

Is he a Top 5 player of all-time? Hell to the Naw


How on Earth do you have people like Pippen over Wade? Are you serious?


Why’s that so controversial?


Pippen has elite D, but Wade is a much better scorer AND playmaker. Pippen's a wonderful complimentary piece and he took Chicago to the playoffs himself without Jordan, but he can't take over games like Wade did in his first championship where in the last 4 games he average 40 points a game.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:02 pm    Post subject:

CervantesRises wrote:
And where do you Rank DWade in NBA history of all players...let me know when I get to one that he should be above...

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MJ
Magic
Kobe
Bron
Shaq
Russell
Wilt
Bird
West
Big O
Duncan
Dream
KD
Curry
Pippen
Dr. J
Mailman
Isiah
AI

Is he a Top 20 player of all-time? Debateable.

Is he a Top 10 player of all-time? Doubtful.

Is he a Top 5 player of all-time? Hell to the Naw


I would take Wade over AI and Isiah, and Isiah is one of my all time favorites. I still don't know what this Curry phenomenon is. Pre-KD, he was sub-par in the finals, couldn't grab a finals MVP, and with KD, he can't outshine him. I think we'll know more about him if KD leaves.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:29 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
drae wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
And where do you Rank DWade in NBA history of all players...let me know when I get to one that he should be above...

Cap
MJ
Magic
Kobe
Bron
Shaq
Russell
Wilt
Bird
West
Big O
Duncan
Dream
KD
Curry
Pippen
Dr. J
Mailman
Isiah
AI

Is he a Top 20 player of all-time? Debateable.

Is he a Top 10 player of all-time? Doubtful.

Is he a Top 5 player of all-time? Hell to the Naw


How on Earth do you have people like Pippen over Wade? Are you serious?


Why’s that so controversial?


Pippen has elite D, but Wade is a much better scorer AND playmaker. Pippen's a wonderful complimentary piece and he took Chicago to the playoffs himself without Jordan, but he can't take over games like Wade did in his first championship where in the last 4 games he average 40 points a game.

Top 20 - case could be made, debatable.
Top 10 - no way
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:31 pm    Post subject:

drae wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
And where do you Rank DWade in NBA history of all players...let me know when I get to one that he should be above...

Cap
MJ
Magic
Kobe
Bron
Shaq
Russell
Wilt
Bird
West
Big O
Duncan
Dream
KD
Curry
Pippen
Dr. J
Mailman
Isiah
AI

Is he a Top 20 player of all-time? Debateable.

Is he a Top 10 player of all-time? Doubtful.

Is he a Top 5 player of all-time? Hell to the Naw


KD who won nothing without going to the Greatest team of all time? Curry who used to choke and only beat Lebron in the first final because Love and Irving was injured?


KD and Steph deserve a lot more respect than that ..
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:51 pm    Post subject:

LKA wrote:
drae wrote:
CervantesRises wrote:
And where do you Rank DWade in NBA history of all players...let me know when I get to one that he should be above...

Cap
MJ
Magic
Kobe
Bron
Shaq
Russell
Wilt
Bird
West
Big O
Duncan
Dream
KD
Curry
Pippen
Dr. J
Mailman
Isiah
AI

Is he a Top 20 player of all-time? Debateable.

Is he a Top 10 player of all-time? Doubtful.

Is he a Top 5 player of all-time? Hell to the Naw


KD who won nothing without going to the Greatest team of all time? Curry who used to choke and only beat Lebron in the first final because Love and Irving was injured?


KD and Steph deserve a lot more respect than that ..


KD's home team newspaper called him Mr Unreliable in 2014 due to his issues in the clutch. He's won on GSW, sure, but a team full of MVPs and All Stars tends to mask over each person's flaws. Curry had a lot of holes before KD arrived, and KD had a lot of holes mentally before he went to GSW. I have Wade over both of them atm, imo.

KD can be great if his next move repairs his legacy. Go to the Knicks or something, take them to a championship, all of a sudden he's amazing. But as it stands, Durant's not in the conversation because he's only succeeded in a superteam.
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