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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:09 pm    Post subject:

I remember the Russel forum when a majority of guys here thought he was the value of a second round pick... same with Randle. My oh my is this forum wrong a lot
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Randle is about to drop a cool 30 on us on Friday and bust somebody’s tooth out in the process
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Watching Lonzo and D'lo go back and forth. What a backcourt we could have had.

Then again, to get LeBron we'd have had to send Ingram to Brooklyn instead in the Mozgov deal, but then would have drafted Kuzma right after so, I guess there's that.


DLO was shooting 40% until he made that 3.

He was okay tonight... but he wasn't the second coming.

Lonzo shot better than he did... to give you some perspective.


Noone is saying DLo played better than Lonzo. Would've been nice to see them playing in the same backcourt though.


actually, I was saying that....not sure how anyone could even try to argue that Russell did not have a better game than Ball.
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Watching Lonzo and D'lo go back and forth. What a backcourt we could have had.

Then again, to get LeBron we'd have had to send Ingram to Brooklyn instead in the Mozgov deal, but then would have drafted Kuzma right after so, I guess there's that.


DLO was shooting 40% until he made that 3.

He was okay tonight... but he wasn't the second coming.

Lonzo shot better than he did... to give you some perspective.


Noone is saying DLo played better than Lonzo. Would've been nice to see them playing in the same backcourt though.


Respectfully disagree. I would do the DLo Mozgov trade again without hesitation.


What if you'd sent Ingram to the Nets instead with Mozgov and drafted Kuzma as his replacement at the 3?

Not that, that is what they should have done. But just a question.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:11 pm    Post subject:

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Watching Lonzo and D'lo go back and forth. What a backcourt we could have had.

Then again, to get LeBron we'd have had to send Ingram to Brooklyn instead in the Mozgov deal, but then would have drafted Kuzma right after so, I guess there's that.


DLO was shooting 40% until he made that 3.

He was okay tonight... but he wasn't the second coming.

Lonzo shot better than he did... to give you some perspective.


That's really the only part that matters. When you're clutch, even if you went 1-10, the 2-11th you make is the one that wins the game. We should know, we saw other teams fear that against us for years


They got sunk by a fat role player in Dudely. Jeeze...



And Russell had 13 assists with that 'team of scrubs' too.

Controlled the tempo for the most part. His shooting had started to fall off, but he kept playing the PG the right way, and then sank the dagger.

Was a great back and forth game from D'lo and Lonzo, but D'lo showed his merit.

I wonder if Shaw has anything else to say now


It helps to rack up assists when there's no rim protector and a layup line.

What about the 4 turnovers? Doesn't bother you?
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MJST wrote:
OCLakeShow wrote:
daytripper wrote:
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MJST wrote:
Watching Lonzo and D'lo go back and forth. What a backcourt we could have had.

Then again, to get LeBron we'd have had to send Ingram to Brooklyn instead in the Mozgov deal, but then would have drafted Kuzma right after so, I guess there's that.


DLO was shooting 40% until he made that 3.

He was okay tonight... but he wasn't the second coming.

Lonzo shot better than he did... to give you some perspective.


Noone is saying DLo played better than Lonzo. Would've been nice to see them playing in the same backcourt though.


Respectfully disagree. I would do the DLo Mozgov trade again without hesitation.


What if you'd sent Ingram to the Nets instead with Mozgov and drafted Kuzma as his replacement at the 3?

Not that, that is what they should have done. But just a question.


hell no, should have sent the #2 pick.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:12 pm    Post subject:

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The Carl's Jr. Laker-killer Scrub of the Night goes to JarHead Dudley :toutslap:

I'd give it to Joe Harris
I started to give it to the entire scrub-filled Net team.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:12 pm    Post subject:

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Oh boy there’s going to be some TAKES after this one



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:12 pm    Post subject:

OCLakeShow wrote:
MJST wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
MJST wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
MJST wrote:
Watching Lonzo and D'lo go back and forth. What a backcourt we could have had.

Then again, to get LeBron we'd have had to send Ingram to Brooklyn instead in the Mozgov deal, but then would have drafted Kuzma right after so, I guess there's that.


DLO was shooting 40% until he made that 3.

He was okay tonight... but he wasn't the second coming.

Lonzo shot better than he did... to give you some perspective.


That's really the only part that matters. When you're clutch, even if you went 1-10, the 2-11th you make is the one that wins the game. We should know, we saw other teams fear that against us for years


They got sunk by a fat role player in Dudely. Jeeze...



And Russell had 13 assists with that 'team of scrubs' too.

Controlled the tempo for the most part. His shooting had started to fall off, but he kept playing the PG the right way, and then sank the dagger.

Was a great back and forth game from D'lo and Lonzo, but D'lo showed his merit.

I wonder if Shaw has anything else to say now


It helps to rack up assists when there's no rim protector and a layup line.

What about the 4 turnovers? Doesn't bother you?


13 assists and only 4 Turnovers? No.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:13 pm    Post subject:

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It helps to rack up assists when there's no rim protector and a layup line.

What about the 4 turnovers? Doesn't bother you?


you think 13 assists and 4 TO's is bad?
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adkindo wrote:
MJST wrote:
OCLakeShow wrote:
daytripper wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
MJST wrote:
Watching Lonzo and D'lo go back and forth. What a backcourt we could have had.

Then again, to get LeBron we'd have had to send Ingram to Brooklyn instead in the Mozgov deal, but then would have drafted Kuzma right after so, I guess there's that.


DLO was shooting 40% until he made that 3.

He was okay tonight... but he wasn't the second coming.

Lonzo shot better than he did... to give you some perspective.


Noone is saying DLo played better than Lonzo. Would've been nice to see them playing in the same backcourt though.


Respectfully disagree. I would do the DLo Mozgov trade again without hesitation.


What if you'd sent Ingram to the Nets instead with Mozgov and drafted Kuzma as his replacement at the 3?

Not that, that is what they should have done. But just a question.


hell no, should have sent the #2 pick.


Ingram was a #2 pick.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:14 pm    Post subject:

Weak defense, missed free throws; nuff said
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject:

We need the DPOY McGee back asap tbh
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject:

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i think Luke in hotseat with this porous defense


I hope the seat he is on is burning hot, (bleep) losing to teams that are sub-500 is unacceptable.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
OCLakeShow wrote:

It helps to rack up assists when there's no rim protector and a layup line.

What about the 4 turnovers? Doesn't bother you?


you think 13 assists and 4 TO's is bad?


The difference is 13 assists is an outlier (he averages a modest 6 per game). The turnovers are not.
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MJST wrote:
OCLakeShow wrote:
daytripper wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
MJST wrote:
Watching Lonzo and D'lo go back and forth. What a backcourt we could have had.

Then again, to get LeBron we'd have had to send Ingram to Brooklyn instead in the Mozgov deal, but then would have drafted Kuzma right after so, I guess there's that.


DLO was shooting 40% until he made that 3.

He was okay tonight... but he wasn't the second coming.

Lonzo shot better than he did... to give you some perspective.


Noone is saying DLo played better than Lonzo. Would've been nice to see them playing in the same backcourt though.


Respectfully disagree. I would do the DLo Mozgov trade again without hesitation.


What if you'd sent Ingram to the Nets instead with Mozgov and drafted Kuzma as his replacement at the 3?

Not that, that is what they should have done. But just a question.


Most know that I've been an Ingram supporter... but I started out a DLO supporter until he never seemed to improve.

Julius went from 48 to 54 to 60 to 61%

DLO just stayed locked at 51%TS

If Ingram is locked at 52% in two years... I will give up on him too.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:17 pm    Post subject:

OCLakeShow wrote:
adkindo wrote:
OCLakeShow wrote:

It helps to rack up assists when there's no rim protector and a layup line.

What about the 4 turnovers? Doesn't bother you?


you think 13 assists and 4 TO's is bad?


The difference is 13 assists is an outlier (he averages a modest 6 per game). The turnovers are not.


so we are talking about outliers now.....take a look at that boxscore, and you may notice a huge one
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:18 pm    Post subject:

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Ingram was a #2 pick.


at one time....but when that trade took place, he was the Lakers small forward...hence, I include the #2 pick.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:19 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
OCLakeShow wrote:
adkindo wrote:
OCLakeShow wrote:

It helps to rack up assists when there's no rim protector and a layup line.

What about the 4 turnovers? Doesn't bother you?


you think 13 assists and 4 TO's is bad?


The difference is 13 assists is an outlier (he averages a modest 6 per game). The turnovers are not.


so we are talking about outliers now.....take a look at that boxscore, and you may notice a huge one


Change the subject much?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:20 pm    Post subject:

One year really isn't enough time to say someone is "never seeming to improve."

Russell had one year with Byron, and one year with Luke. Near the end of his season with Luke he had one of the best statistical stretches of anyone in his age range, and was one of the few within that age to put up the stats he did, even with his minutes and role being dilly dallied with all season, and being benched for no reason.

That's definitely not long enough to say "he never seemed to improve."
Way too early to have that assumption imo.

And last season he started being that 20/4/5 player we saw him being, but the knee injury messed with him and he never got all the way back.

This season he's been healtheir and seems to be rounding to that point again.

Either way, it was far too early to assume he'd never get better. Particularly considering the numbers he was putting up for someone his age at the time and the flashes of brilliance he'd shown, and consistency he seemed to finally find till Luke benched him after one bad game.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:22 pm    Post subject:

Sentient Meat wrote:
MJST wrote:
OCLakeShow wrote:
daytripper wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
MJST wrote:
Watching Lonzo and D'lo go back and forth. What a backcourt we could have had.

Then again, to get LeBron we'd have had to send Ingram to Brooklyn instead in the Mozgov deal, but then would have drafted Kuzma right after so, I guess there's that.


DLO was shooting 40% until he made that 3.

He was okay tonight... but he wasn't the second coming.

Lonzo shot better than he did... to give you some perspective.


Noone is saying DLo played better than Lonzo. Would've been nice to see them playing in the same backcourt though.


Respectfully disagree. I would do the DLo Mozgov trade again without hesitation.


What if you'd sent Ingram to the Nets instead with Mozgov and drafted Kuzma as his replacement at the 3?

Not that, that is what they should have done. But just a question.


Most know that I've been an Ingram supporter... but I started out a DLO supporter until he never seemed to improve.

Julius went from 48 to 54 to 60 to 61%

DLO just stayed locked at 51%TS

If Ingram is locked at 52% in two years... I will give up on him too.


While DLO may not have improved ts% wise, he has surely improved as a playmaker.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:24 pm    Post subject:

foshowtime wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
MJST wrote:
OCLakeShow wrote:
daytripper wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
MJST wrote:
Watching Lonzo and D'lo go back and forth. What a backcourt we could have had.

Then again, to get LeBron we'd have had to send Ingram to Brooklyn instead in the Mozgov deal, but then would have drafted Kuzma right after so, I guess there's that.


DLO was shooting 40% until he made that 3.

He was okay tonight... but he wasn't the second coming.

Lonzo shot better than he did... to give you some perspective.


Noone is saying DLo played better than Lonzo. Would've been nice to see them playing in the same backcourt though.


Respectfully disagree. I would do the DLo Mozgov trade again without hesitation.


What if you'd sent Ingram to the Nets instead with Mozgov and drafted Kuzma as his replacement at the 3?

Not that, that is what they should have done. But just a question.


Most know that I've been an Ingram supporter... but I started out a DLO supporter until he never seemed to improve.

Julius went from 48 to 54 to 60 to 61%

DLO just stayed locked at 51%TS

If Ingram is locked at 52% in two years... I will give up on him too.


While DLO may not have improved ts% wise, he has surely improved as a playmaker.


Credit where credit is due; he has improved his assist totals year-over-year since he came in the league.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:24 pm    Post subject:

OCLakeShow wrote:
adkindo wrote:
OCLakeShow wrote:
adkindo wrote:
OCLakeShow wrote:

It helps to rack up assists when there's no rim protector and a layup line.

What about the 4 turnovers? Doesn't bother you?


you think 13 assists and 4 TO's is bad?


The difference is 13 assists is an outlier (he averages a modest 6 per game). The turnovers are not.


so we are talking about outliers now.....take a look at that boxscore, and you may notice a huge one


Change the subject much?


nice try....the conversation originated about Lonzo and Dlo....you have been running around the board all night trying to diminish everything DLo did....as he was doing it....then you throw up 4 TO's as a defense clearly not realizing any team would take 4 TO's to 13 assists every night....then you shift to outliers. Again, the biggest outlier of the night was Ball's scoring....which again was one of the two subjects where the discussion began.

DLo showed out tonight....he was clearly the best guard on the court tonight....just accept it for what it is.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:25 pm    Post subject:

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Weak defense, missed free throws; nuff said


without a big man eraser in the post you have be able to play solid man defense.... only Zo played defense ...


blow bys by Dudley is a joke
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:27 pm    Post subject:

Fact of the matter is, for as much as some of you want to talk about how successful they'll be with Russell leading them. They just won their 6th straight and it was against us.
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