Why didn't we re-sign Brook Lopez?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:02 am    Post subject: Why didn't we re-sign Brook Lopez?

This, to me, is arguably the most egregious mistake by this FO so far. I don't care that McGee and Chandler are playing well. Brook is exactly what this team needs. Why we didn't sign him over Stephenson/Beasley is completely beyond me.

I bring this up now because on Lowe's podcast Brook seemed to indicate that he wanted to re-sign with us. So it's not on him.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:02 am    Post subject:

Thought he didn't want to be here.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:03 am    Post subject:

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Thought he didn't want to be here.


not according to what he said on Lowe's podcast yesterday
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:04 am    Post subject:

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Thought he didn't want to be here.


not according to what he said on Lowe's podcast yesterday


Didn't catch that. Got a link to quotes or a transcript?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:08 am    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
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Thought he didn't want to be here.


not according to what he said on Lowe's podcast yesterday


Didn't catch that. Got a link to quotes or a transcript?


couldn't find that with a quick search but here's a link to the whole thing – IIRC the part about the lakers is kinda near the beginning


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:22 am    Post subject:

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Thought he didn't want to be here.


not according to what he said on Lowe's podcast yesterday


I read that it was mutual.

Brook was getting less and less playing time b/c of the pace and small ball lineups.

I mean he ended up on quite a good team and will be in a position to probably get at least a MLE level deal if he keeps it up.

I wanted him back.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:26 am    Post subject:

I'll transcribe since I don't feel like doing sheet this morning.

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Lowe: So you played for the Lakers last year, now you play for the Bucks, what's always been interesting to me and what I really want to ask you about, was, the moment Lebron signed with the Lakers, and, they also had no centers for a minute until they signed Javale McGee and now they've obviously got Tyson Chandler. There was this idea that well, ok, the Lakers need a center, and some size, and they need 3pt shooting because any team with Lebron needs a lot of 3pt shooting around them and I was like well, they just had a guy who kinda combines both of those things. So I'm curious from your perspective like, were you surprised that they didn't come after you harder or maybe they did and you just decided, umm, I mean, it's kind of a circus there with Lebron in Los Angeles, it's like a perfect storm of drama. Did you just not want any part of it? What was your perspective on the move from LA to Milwaukee?

Lopez: Well, I was a little surprised, umm, it just, it just didn't end up working out you know, umm, it kinda went in one direction pretty quickly and from that point you know I was looking at other options.

Lowe: Would you have wanted to play there? Or do you prefer this it's, it's, obviously you have a great team, I think a better team than the Lakers, but it's a quieter, it's quieter here let's put it that way.

Lopez: Yeah, I mean, I, I would have wanted to play there but umm that being said, umm, I'm happy that this worked out the way it did, cause it's the best situation possible. You know, even comparable to playing there this season. You know, far and away, this season in Milwaukee has gone so well, just the group we have here, the players, the staff, and the opportunity to do some big things. It's such a great situation to be in.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: Why didn't we re-sign Brook Lopez?

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This, to me, is arguably the most egregious mistake by this FO so far. I don't care that McGee and Chandler are playing well. Brook is exactly what this team needs. Why we didn't sign him over Stephenson/Beasley is completely beyond me.

I bring this up now because on Lowe's podcast Brook seemed to indicate that he wanted to re-sign with us. So it's not on him.


Depends who you ask.

It's clear Magic wanted a running team and didn't feel Brook fit in with his concept.

I don't know what he said on the most recent podcast. In the past, Brook has said he was willing to come back, but he's never mentioned or as far as I known been asked if he specific terms like wanting to start or a guarantee of a certain number of minutes.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:33 am    Post subject:

I would rather have McGee.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:39 am    Post subject:

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I'll transcribe since I don't feel like doing sheet this morning.

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Lowe: So you played for the Lakers last year, now you play for the Bucks, what's always been interesting to me and what I really want to ask you about, was, the moment Lebron signed with the Lakers, and, they also had no centers for a minute until they signed Javale McGee and now they've obviously got Tyson Chandler. There was this idea that well, ok, the Lakers need a center, and some size, and they need 3pt shooting because any team with Lebron needs a lot of 3pt shooting around them and I was like well, they just had a guy who kinda combines both of those things. So I'm curious from your perspective like, were you surprised that they didn't come after you harder or maybe they did and you just decided, umm, I mean, it's kind of a circus there with Lebron in Los Angeles, it's like a perfect storm of drama. Did you just not want any part of it? What was your perspective on the move from LA to Milwaukee?

Lopez: Well, I was a little surprised, umm, it just, it just didn't end up working out you know, umm, it kinda went in one direction pretty quickly and from that point you know I was looking at other options.

Lowe: Would you have wanted to play there? Or do you prefer this it's, it's, obviously you have a great team, I think a better team than the Lakers, but it's a quieter, it's quieter here let's put it that way.

Lopez: Yeah, I mean, I, I would have wanted to play there but umm that being said, umm, I'm happy that this worked out the way it did, cause it's the best situation possible. You know, even comparable to playing there this season. You know, far and away, this season in Milwaukee has gone so well, just the group we have here, the players, the staff, and the opportunity to do some big things. It's such a great situation to be in.



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yeah to me that indicates he was willing to re-sign but we chose not to
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:39 am    Post subject:

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I would rather have McGee.


I'd rather have both.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:47 am    Post subject:

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I wanted him back.


I did as well but JaVale is a better fit with this team and he's a lot better player than I thought. I haven't really thought about Brook that much.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:48 am    Post subject:

Because Magic.

BroLo is making 37% from three this season with 7 attempts per game, which is incredible. Imagine having him stretch the floor playing alongside Bron. Our defense might suffer a bit but our offense would flourish.

Luckily, Lebron was able to intervene so we got TC earlier than expected. Otherwise, we could have been staring at a sub .500 record right now and Magic is gonna place most of the blames on Luke. Again, I do not think Magic is a good evaluator of talent. This is based on almost 2 years of moves. DLo looked pretty good yesterday.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:51 am    Post subject:

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Because Magic.

BroLo is making 37% from three this season with 7 attempts per game, which is incredible. Imagine having him stretch the floor playing alongside Bron. Our defense might suffer a bit but our offense would flourish.

Luckily, Lebron was able to intervene so we got TC earlier than expected. Otherwise, we could have been staring at a sub .500 record right now and Magic is gonna place most of the blames on Luke. Again, I do not think Magic is a good evaluator of talent. This is based on almost 2 years of moves. DLo looked pretty good yesterday.


Lebron was able to intervene?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:52 am    Post subject:

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I wanted him back.


I did as well but JaVale is a better fit with this team and he's a lot better player than I thought. I haven't really thought about Brook that much.


We could have had both and get TC too. McGee coming off the bench would have had about the same minutes as if he was starting.

The major problem with the Lakers right now is the lack of depth at the center position. Usually, PFs are able to play center but we don't have a PF that could do that so we rely solely on McGee and TC at the 5. That means that if either of them went down, then we'd have to bring in Wagner and that's not gonna be pretty.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:54 am    Post subject:

Like Brook but he does not fit our switch everything mentality. Our problem is mostly defense in our losses.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:55 am    Post subject:

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Like Brook but he does not fit our switch everything mentality. Our problem is mostly defense in our losses.


We shouldn't want to switch off legit big men though.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:01 am    Post subject:

Brook Lopez: $3,382,000
Javale McGee: $2,393,887
Tyson Chandler: $2,109,867
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:02 am    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
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Like Brook but he does not fit our switch everything mentality. Our problem is mostly defense in our losses.


We shouldn't want to switch off legit big men though.


Situational lineups yea. If he didn’t have a problem with lesser minutes and PT he would of been better than a Beasley like signing.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:04 am    Post subject:

I wasn't surprised that they let him go, but I was definitely surprised how cheap he signed for. I would've preferred keeping him for that price tag. I also thought he'd struggle with our pace but Milwaukee is currently playing the 5th fastest pace in the NBA (we are 3rd). Oh well, I move on pretty quickly from ex-Lakers.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:05 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Brook Lopez: $3,382,000
Javale McGee: $2,393,887
Tyson Chandler: $2,109,867


we could have given him Lance's money I'm pretty sure otherwise Lance + Beasley's
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:24 am    Post subject:

PHILosophize wrote:
epak wrote:
Brook Lopez: $3,382,000
Javale McGee: $2,393,887
Tyson Chandler: $2,109,867


we could have given him Lance's money I'm pretty sure otherwise Lance + Beasley's


Tyson Chandler wouldn't have come here as the 3rd string center.

McGee might not have come here w/o the chance to start.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:24 am    Post subject:

LongBeachPoly wrote:
PHILosophize wrote:
epak wrote:
Brook Lopez: $3,382,000
Javale McGee: $2,393,887
Tyson Chandler: $2,109,867


we could have given him Lance's money I'm pretty sure otherwise Lance + Beasley's


Tyson Chandler wouldn't have come here as the 3rd string center.

McGee might not have come here w/o the chance to start.


True on McGee. He came here specifically for the role sold to him.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:42 am    Post subject:

I was operating on the assumption maybe brolo wanted to start

pretty disappointing to say the least if we actually could've had Mcgee and lopez
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:43 am    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
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PHILosophize wrote:
epak wrote:
Brook Lopez: $3,382,000
Javale McGee: $2,393,887
Tyson Chandler: $2,109,867


we could have given him Lance's money I'm pretty sure otherwise Lance + Beasley's


Tyson Chandler wouldn't have come here as the 3rd string center.

McGee might not have come here w/o the chance to start.


True on McGee. He came here specifically for the role sold to him.


Maybe. But maybe he or Lopez would be willing to be our sixth man.

It's a good point, though.
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