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| PHILosophize wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | epak wrote: | Brook Lopez: $3,382,000
Javale McGee: $2,393,887
Tyson Chandler: $2,109,867 |
we could have given him Lance's money I'm pretty sure otherwise Lance + Beasley's |
Tyson Chandler wouldn't have come here as the 3rd string center.
McGee might not have come here w/o the chance to start. |
True on McGee. He came here specifically for the role sold to him. |
Maybe. But maybe he or Lopez would be willing to be our sixth man.
It's a good point, though. |
Not McGee. He specifically said he came here because the Lakers were willing to give him a more featured role that he couldn't get at Golden State. |
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| McGee was a nice alternative but Lopez imo is the better play and fit because of his shot. |
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ringfinger
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:47 am Post subject: |
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| Lucky_Shot wrote: | | McGee was a nice alternative but Lopez imo is the better play and fit because of his shot. |
Yeah but McGee helps us out a lot defensively, prticularly with his help defense.
Honestly, I think it's kind of a wash as they bring completely different things to the table. |
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LongBeachPoly
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| ringfinger wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | epak wrote: | Brook Lopez: $3,382,000
Javale McGee: $2,393,887
Tyson Chandler: $2,109,867 |
we could have given him Lance's money I'm pretty sure otherwise Lance + Beasley's |
Tyson Chandler wouldn't have come here as the 3rd string center.
McGee might not have come here w/o the chance to start. |
True on McGee. He came here specifically for the role sold to him. |
Maybe. But maybe he or Lopez would be willing to be our sixth man.
It's a good point, though. |
Not McGee. He specifically said he came here because the Lakers were willing to give him a more featured role that he couldn't get at Golden State. |
And McGee agreed as soon as LeBron agreed. Brook was still shopping himself around the league at that point. I'm sure his decision came down to starting as well. |
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| Yeah. Maybe we did want him but we wanted him to come off the bench and he didn’t want that. |
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PHILosophize
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | epak wrote: | Brook Lopez: $3,382,000
Javale McGee: $2,393,887
Tyson Chandler: $2,109,867 |
we could have given him Lance's money I'm pretty sure otherwise Lance + Beasley's |
Tyson Chandler wouldn't have come here as the 3rd string center.
McGee might not have come here w/o the chance to start. |
True on McGee. He came here specifically for the role sold to him. |
Maybe. But maybe he or Lopez would be willing to be our sixth man.
It's a good point, though. |
Not McGee. He specifically said he came here because the Lakers were willing to give him a more featured role that he couldn't get at Golden State. |
I still think we could find 25 minutes a game with Lopez on the roster.
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McGee, 11.8 pts, 6.7 rebs, 2.6 blks, FG% 62.6%, PER 21.9
Brook, 11.9 pts, 4.2 rebs, 1.9 blks, FG% 42.8, Per 13.2
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LongBeachPoly
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | epak wrote: | Brook Lopez: $3,382,000
Javale McGee: $2,393,887
Tyson Chandler: $2,109,867 |
we could have given him Lance's money I'm pretty sure otherwise Lance + Beasley's |
Tyson Chandler wouldn't have come here as the 3rd string center.
McGee might not have come here w/o the chance to start. |
True on McGee. He came here specifically for the role sold to him. |
Maybe. But maybe he or Lopez would be willing to be our sixth man.
It's a good point, though. |
Not McGee. He specifically said he came here because the Lakers were willing to give him a more featured role that he couldn't get at Golden State. |
I still think we could find 25 minutes a game with Lopez on the roster. |
Yeah, but how can you conclude: "This, to me, is arguably the most egregious mistake by this FO so far." based on "maybes" and "I still think." |
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Lucky_Shot
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| 32 wrote: | McGee, 11.8 pts, 6.7 rebs, 2.6 blks, FG% 62.6%, PER 21.9
Brook, 11.9 pts, 4.2 rebs, 1.9 blks, FG% 42.8, Per 13.2 |
Brook 37 3pt% (7 3pta) 80ft% 2.89rpm
Mcgee 0 3pt% 67ft% -.48 rpm
Stats can go both ways on these guys, but my personal opinion Brook Lopez is better |
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| Mcgee and budding star “20 and 10” randle |
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PHILosophize
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | epak wrote: | Brook Lopez: $3,382,000
Javale McGee: $2,393,887
Tyson Chandler: $2,109,867 |
we could have given him Lance's money I'm pretty sure otherwise Lance + Beasley's |
Tyson Chandler wouldn't have come here as the 3rd string center.
McGee might not have come here w/o the chance to start. |
True on McGee. He came here specifically for the role sold to him. |
Maybe. But maybe he or Lopez would be willing to be our sixth man.
It's a good point, though. |
Not McGee. He specifically said he came here because the Lakers were willing to give him a more featured role that he couldn't get at Golden State. |
I still think we could find 25 minutes a game with Lopez on the roster. |
Yeah, but how can you conclude: "This, to me, is arguably the most egregious mistake by this FO so far." based on "maybes" and "I still think." |
because I like almost everything else the FO has done
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| Lucky_Shot wrote: | | 32 wrote: | McGee, 11.8 pts, 6.7 rebs, 2.6 blks, FG% 62.6%, PER 21.9
Brook, 11.9 pts, 4.2 rebs, 1.9 blks, FG% 42.8, Per 13.2 |
Brook 37 3pt% (7 3pta) 80ft% 2.89rpm
Mcgee 0 3pt% 67ft% -.48 rpm
Stats can go both ways on these guys, but my personal opinion Brook Lopez is better |
They are different kinds of players. Do you know what their defensive ratings are?
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| PHILosophize wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Thought he didn't want to be here. |
not according to what he said on Lowe's podcast yesterday |
This is becoming the catch-all explanation for guys we let walk that shouldn't have and it's always either not true, or they didn't want to be here because Magic did a piss poor job of making them feel even semi-wanted. |
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PHILosophize
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IMO:
Lopez/McGee > Lopez/Chandler > McGee/Chandler
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The front office misevaluated Kuzma's ability to play small ball center.
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| Always thought we would’ve re-signed him when we landed Lebron. |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | The front office misevaluated Kuzma's ability to play small ball center. |
Very true. Also LBJ playing "center" for more minutes.
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| calistrtballr wrote: | | Mcgee and budding star “20 and 10” randle |
I remember GT saying at the time that Lopez really wasn’t interested in resigning. Lopez was OK, all I really remember about his time here was that when he had a bad game, it was a REALLY bad game. I do think our FO messed up in evaluating Kuzs ability to play small ball center.
With Randle, another guy who didn’t want to be here because his role was going to be diminished and was looking to get paid. I prefer the nickname “turned a 6 seed into an 11th seed” Randle  |
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I was really upset about letting him get away, but Javale and Tyson have made me forget very quickly.
We miss out on scoring, but Javale alone is such a huge defensive piece for us. Id be more PO if we let Javale walk away.
He has to be a part of this team moving forward. Im that confident about his impact to the team. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | The front office misevaluated Kuzma's ability to play small ball center. |
The blind man on the corner could see that
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | The front office misevaluated Kuzma's ability to play small ball center. |
That was a bad experiment. Lucky they got Chandler.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | McGee was a nice alternative but Lopez imo is the better play and fit because of his shot. |
Yeah but McGee helps us out a lot defensively, prticularly with his help defense.
Honestly, I think it's kind of a wash as they bring completely different things to the table. |
It’s not a wash, Brook is just the better player and fit overall. We were top 10 in defense most of last year too with BroLo. He’d have been great for guys like Lebron, BI and Lonzo to have someone like him that boxes out and can space the floor |
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| OC Lakerfan wrote: | | Like Brook but he does not fit our switch everything mentality. Our problem is mostly defense in our losses. |
There's a guy in New Orleans putting up 19/10 that could have helped with the switching issue at 5. That was a bigger blunder than Brook IMO. |
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| KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | OC Lakerfan wrote: | | Like Brook but he does not fit our switch everything mentality. Our problem is mostly defense in our losses. |
There's a guy in New Orleans putting up 19/10 that could have helped with the switching issue at 5. That was a bigger blunder than Brook IMO. |
I wanted Jules back too, but I can understand given the dynamics with Mintz (see my sig), future role, and Jules's rightful desire for a deal greater than 1 year, it was going to be tougher.
Brook? He makes less than Lance/Beez. So yeah.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| OC Lakerfan wrote: | | Like Brook but he does not fit our switch everything mentality. Our problem is mostly defense in our losses. |
It's not exactly much switching when McGee and Chandler sag off guys 5' to 10' anyway.
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