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Harlemlakerfan
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 Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:22 pm Post subject: We are the first team in NBA history that needs to make a trade, strictly off of Free Throw shooting. |
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| We have too many bad free throw shooters on this team and we have to move some. |
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KindCrippler2000
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| Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Or they could just hire a shooting coach. They have to be historically bad. |
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CantStopJM
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Our entire lineup is bad at FTs except for Kuz.
Lonzo horrendous
BI horrendous
Bron bad
McGee bad
then our role players
Josh Hart bad
Tyson bad
that's damn near our entire rotation |
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SuperboyReformed
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| CantStopJM wrote: | Our entire lineup is bad at FTs except for Kuz.
Lonzo horrendous
BI horrendous
Bron bad
McGee bad
then our role players
Josh Hart bad
Tyson bad
that's damn near our entire rotation |
why does everyone ignore kcp? hes like freakin curry kd level. |
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Shaber
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | Or they could just hire a shooting coach. They have to be historically bad. |
This.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Imagine if we had drafted kawhi leonard.
No shooting coach during his early years means right now he would have been basically devin ebanks.
Such a shame we are letting our young players development go to waste
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KCP is currently 9th in the NBA for FT%. I would give him starter-level minutes and for sure use him to close out games.
Conversely, Lonzo needs to sit for the final minutes until he learns how to shoot FTs. This is not me spewing Lonzo hate, I actually like Lonzo, but a team's PG is too often fouled down the stretch, and Lonzo is shooting FTs like a backup center, rather than a PG.
Remember that season when we had the #1 (Fisher) and #3 (Vujacic) FT% players on our team. It was amazing having that type of confidence in close games.
We have probably lost at least three, maybe four games, to FTs this season. |
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Yellow
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:28 am Post subject: |
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| Killer_Z wrote: | KCP is currently 9th in the NBA for FT%. I would give him starter-level minutes and for sure use him to close out games.
Conversely, Lonzo needs to sit for the final minutes until he learns how to shoot FTs. This is not me spewing Lonzo hate, I actually like Lonzo, but a team's PG is too often fouled down the stretch, and Lonzo is shooting FTs like a backup center, rather than a PG.
Remember that season when we had the #1 (Fisher) and #3 (Vujacic) FT% players on our team. It was amazing having that type of confidence in close games.
We have probably lost at least three, maybe four games, to FTs this season. |
Interestingly enough, Fisher was a 66% FT shooter as a rookie and shot 72% over his first four seasons. He elevated that to 85-90%. |
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PartyMan
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| Yellow wrote: | | Killer_Z wrote: | KCP is currently 9th in the NBA for FT%. I would give him starter-level minutes and for sure use him to close out games.
Conversely, Lonzo needs to sit for the final minutes until he learns how to shoot FTs. This is not me spewing Lonzo hate, I actually like Lonzo, but a team's PG is too often fouled down the stretch, and Lonzo is shooting FTs like a backup center, rather than a PG.
Remember that season when we had the #1 (Fisher) and #3 (Vujacic) FT% players on our team. It was amazing having that type of confidence in close games.
We have probably lost at least three, maybe four games, to FTs this season. |
Interestingly enough, Fisher was a 66% FT shooter as a rookie and shot 72% over his first four seasons. He elevated that to 85-90%. |
I always thought Fish had a beautiful shot with all that arc he would get. Didn't always go in.. but it looked good.
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Annihilator
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:15 am Post subject: Re: We are the first team in NBA history that needs to make a trade, strictly off of Free Throw shooting. |
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Thread Title: We are the first team in NBA history that needs to make a trade, strictly off of Free Throw shooting.
| Harlemlakerfan wrote: | | We have too many bad free throw shooters on this team and we have to move some. |
The thread title is obviously false. In the seventy year existence of the NBA, there have been other teams that have also needed to trade for better free throw shooters. A link to the worst free throw shooting teams of all time can be found here: https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/team_ft_pct.html There have been other teams that are worse; they too needed to obtain better free throw shooters.
The fact is that the Lakers--as a team--are horrible free throw shooters. They need to hire a shooting coach since the players are not making progress with "The Walton Gang." This "over the top" response that the Lakers are the "first" is absolutely silly. The whole thread needs to be incorporated into anyone of several other threads complaining about the lack of good shooting by the Lakers.
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SDLakersFan
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| I just can’t believe how much things have changed. Guards are supposed to be reliable FT shooters. All of ours suck lol |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| We are certainly not the first team in history that needs to improve their FT shooting. |
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activeverb
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:49 am Post subject: Re: We are the first team in NBA history that needs to make a trade, strictly off of Free Throw shooting. |
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| Harlemlakerfan wrote: | | We have too many bad free throw shooters on this team and we have to move some. |
Here's a fun one for you. During the Shaq Kobe 3-peat, we were the worst free throw shooting team in the league, hitting at a lower percentage than the current squad. I think our lowest year as a team during the three peat was 68% |
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danzag
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Shaq pulled the team down on that department. 
Everyone else besides him and Slava shot better than 70%. |
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lakersfever714
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Luke didn't even play Zubac, the undisputed free throw king of the Lakers, last game. That shows you how important Luke thinks of free throw shooting.
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| danzag wrote: |
Shaq pulled the team down on that department.
Everyone else besides him and Slava shot better than 70%. |
The Spurs also won some rings with some pretty crappy free throwing teams |
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Sentient Meat
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| danzag wrote: |
Shaq pulled the team down on that department.
Everyone else besides him and Slava shot better than 70%. |
Yeah if Ingram and LBJ could get over 70% it would really help our numbers.
Shaq shot so many shots compared to everyone else. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| danzag wrote: |
Shaq pulled the team down on that department.
Everyone else besides him and Slava shot better than 70%. |
We shot the most attempts in the league that year, so we made up for it with volume (10th in free throws made).
This season we've attempted the 10th most free throws and are ranked 21st in ft made. When you aren't getting to the line as often, you better knock them down when you get there. We aren't doing that. |
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Plenty of ring teams have been bad and below average at shooting free throws, so that in isolation isn't a primary concern.
That said, we have a poorly constructed team, filled with non-shooters, who's post-season success depends on Lebron heroics. And it is a concern that all the young guys, who will presumably stick around, are poor shooters.
This is a team that really needs a makeover. |
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GOODRICH25
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| Shaber wrote: | | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | Or they could just hire a shooting coach. They have to be historically bad. |
This. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | Or they could just hire a shooting coach. They have to be historically bad. |
Every Laker fan on earth wants this. Too bad the FO and coaching staff don't think it's necessary smh.
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where24happens
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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This isn't going to change this season, we don't need to trade these guys just because they're garbage FT shooters. It is what it is.
I didn't know Josh Hart was that bad at FT shooting though. How did we get so lucky, three out of our young core four are garbage FT shooters (and our point guard is historically bad). |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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*Counter argument*
No we aren't. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | Or they could just hire a shooting coach. They have to be historically bad. |
Anything at this point. Personally, I don't understand how you can get to this level and need a shooting coach to teach you proper mechanics.
I have a theory that bad shooting pros never spent a lot of time in their bedroom with nerf hoops. LOL! Sounds kinda crazy, but I really would be interested to know how many hours these guys spent shooting nerf in their room when they were kids. I was a good shooter, and correlate that with hours and hours of shooting mini hoops in my room. If you can refine your shooting touch to make a tiny little ball go into a tiny rim. If your brain can sort that out, it will then be able to sort out shooting a bigger ball. Basically if you're the type that can develope a touch with a small hoop, then you can develop a touch with the big hoop. If you were never able to master shooting a nerf ball, I doubt you can master shooting a real ball. Your brain is too lazy to do it, it's mental fatigue for some of these guys. |
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