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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:56 pm    Post subject: KNICKS -at- LAKERS – 1-4-19 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

A…B…C… Always Be Closing… Put that coffee down! Coffee's for closers only.

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Looking at our young trio of Ingram, Ball and Hart tonight, I’m reminded of the monologue from Glengarry Glen Ross. BI was awful, Lonzo fell asleep most of the fourth (even on an inbounds pass) and Josh Hart clanked away from three. Trying to close the soft Knicks tonight...yikes. Horrible.

“When shots didn’t go in, guys started doing it on their own,” Luke said of the fourth quarter (looking at you again, Ingram).

They trailed by 17 at one point in the first quarter as the Knicks sank three after three and the Lakers got off to a poor start. Our two primary playmakers (Ball and Ingram) combined for 8 turnovers and 1 assist in the first half. (Let that sink in for a moment.) But the team got their act together and trimmed the lead to 4 by halftime.

Late in the third quarter, Lance Stephenson helped spark the team with a series of passes to his bigmen for scores around the rim and the Lakers had their first lead. There was life in Staples and the crowd was posed for a big fourth.

Then our youth sucked the life out of the ball. The Lakers got into the penalty early in the fourth quarter and the Knicks went to the line again and again, so that slowed things down. But Lonzo and BI killed the Lakers with critical turnovers and some very inefficient play by Ingram. They both played right into the Knicks’ hands in the fourth. Combine that with only forcing 6 turnovers on the night and you lose 119-112 to the lowly Knicks.

With Kuzma added to the injured and sidelined Lakers, the team is hitting an important part of their schedule. Even as a marginally healthy team, they were expected to roll through a series of wins in January. Losing key players has put each of these games in doubt. Rondo isn’t coming back anytime soon and LeBron will be re-evaluated in a week. The young guys have simply got to step and hold the line.


Ball -- -- You look at the stats tonight and see a great three shooting night, but also look at that team-low -17 and the team-high 6 turnovers. He had 11 points in the first half, aggressive with his shot, but he also had 4 turnovers and no assists. He started the fourth quarter and simply disappeared for the first 5 minutes. Anyone can walk the ball up the court for 10 seconds, give it to a teammate and stand in the corner. What are we doing? The worst, however, was taking that same lack of energy out of a timeout for a 5-second inbounds violation not passing the ball in (that was in the final two minutes out of a timeout…you could see Luke die a little inside). Lonzo would hit another three shortly later, but also give the ball back to the Knicks on a key possession with another turnover. Despite, the decent scoring, way too many turnovers and too little energy to lose the Laker crowd in the fourth quarter. Again, he also struggled from the FT line. I’m not sure I recall anyone ever in a Laker uniform with as bad a stretch of shooting freethrows and Lonzo. He is 1 of his last 11 after missing his first two attempts to start this game. That’s epically bad. Little kids don’t go 1-11 from the line. At some point, it’s not just on him, it’s on the coaches and the entire organization. The only thing worse than his freethrow shooting is when he attempts a floater. Statistically just awful at that this season and tonight he missed a couple of those, as well. Very disappointed with how he played that fourth quarter tonight. The Stats: He scored 17 points on 6-12 shooting (5-7 shooting from three) to go with 6 boards, 2 assists, 2 steals, 1 block, 6 turnovers and 4 fouls in 34 minutes. He was a -17. The Action: Off the mark on a feed to start the game, turnover. He sank a three on a pitch back as his man went under the screen. His lob pass to McGee wasn’t high enough, turnover. He missed an open wing three. He attacked and missed a short one in the paint. He swished a wing three. He grabbed a board, pushed it out with speed, split defenders and drew FTs, he missed both (1-11). He swiped a ball on the perimeter, pushed it out and scored a layup. He threw a pass away on the break, turnover and score the other way. Lazy perimeter pass, turnover, score the other way. He missed a step-back wing three. He made a more open step-back wing three. His kickout led to a KCP three. He blocked a drive on iso on the other end. Second Half: He missed a floater, which is always a bad idea from him. He airballed a short floater on a drive, then traveled as he tried to tip it in. Over passing in the paint after taking a pass over a fronting defender. He sank a wing three off a jab step. He hit McGee with a pocket pass for a score. He attacked to his right and was short on the layup, which is par for the course on those when he goes to his right. Horrible inbounds violation not getting it in out of a timeout, looked asleep. He sank a wing three. Killer turnover, throwing a kickout right to a Knick with under a minute left.

Ingram -- -- Tonight in the fourth…awful. He was a turnover machine in the first half, killing the Lakers and any kind of momentum they were trying to develop. It was a mix of getting picked on the dribble and bad passes for his 4 first half turnovers. Combine that with 9 points on 11 shots and you got very little out of how aggressive he was. He looked like he was getting it together in the third as the Lakers were seizing control. In the fourth, he was atrocious, getting rejected on drives, turning the ball over and not looking for teammates. It was awful and again bled the Lakers slowly and the life out of the crowd. Props for another good rebounding night. The Stats: He scored 21 points on 8-21 shooting (0-2 from three, 5-5 from the line) to go with 9 boards, 3 assists, 1 steal, 5 turnovers and 3 fouls in 25 minutes. He was a -14. The Action: He missed a three on a low kickout. Ill-advised outlet, turnover, led to a three for the Knicks. He attacked the sagging D and scored a layup with his left. He missed a long wing jumper. He iso’d and coughed it up. He attacked in transition and missed a layup. He attacked and missed a layup at the front of the rim. He attacked in transition, took contact, gathered and scored the And-1 floater, he made the FT. He attacked, scooped and airballed. He swiped a bad kickout, gave it up, got it back and dunked. Turnover out of a timeout for a breakaway score. Not close on a pull-up 17-footer. He threw a pass away trying to hit a cutter. He missed a layup. He attacked off the three line and hit a tough layup at the end of the half. Second Half: He probed, picked up his dribble, drew the D and hit McGee for the dunk. Little hesi off a change of directions, he attacked and scored the And-1 layup, he made the FT. He missed a corner three. He up-faked, leaned in and drew FT on the jumper, he made both. He missed a pull-up 17-footer. He scooped up the Zubac block, pushed it out and scored a layup over the backing up defender. He ran clock, attacked off the high screen and rattled down the pull-up 15-footer with 2 seconds left in the third. He was rejected on a drive using the wrong hand on the finish. He put a man in jail and scored an And-1 layup off a jumpstep, he made the FT. Caught in the air he missed bad leaner, score the other way. He attacked and was rejected badly again, points the other way. He pushed out with speed and was stripped for a turnover, killer. He attacked left and not close as the D smothered him, sigh.

McGee -- -- They got 18 points from McGee in 25 minutes and a strong outing from Zubac. The bigs weren’t the problem. Certainly, there was a little hesitation defensively when the Knicks had a floor spacing big out there, but it wasn’t really a factor. Any kind of playmaker and our bigs are going to dominate this game. We got Lance to step into that role for a stretch, but once he stopped handling the ball with Lonzo and BI back in the fourth, that all ended. Good work by McGee on scoring in various ways around the rim. There were a couple of jumphooks he might want back to reset the offense instead. The Stats: He scored 18 points on 9-14 shooting to go with 9 boards (5 offensive), 1 assist, 1 block, 1 turnover and 3 fouls in 25 minutes. He was a -14. The Action: Short on a hook across the lane. He missed a layup, got it back, kept it up high and scored a layup. Forced an off-balance jumphook in early offense and missed, kick that out please. He battled for an offensive board and scored the putback. He left the paint too early and gave up a dunk. Second Half: Up and under in the post for a layup. He blocked a guard’s drive. He reverse dunked off the dish from Ingram. He missed a tip. He scored a short bank off the slip screen. He hit a short jumphook off a series of pivots after our lob play busted out of a timeout. He reversed off the drive and dish from Lance. Another score off the two-man game with Lance (nice touch off the glass on a runner). He was called for a charge. He avoided a charge on scoop layup around a tagging help defender.

Hart -- -- He got the start for Kuzma in the PF spot. They then went to Beasley in the second half. He just killed them with his inability to hit form three. He went 1-9 from behind the line. That’s probably all that needs to be said on this one. Asked about the officiating and why all the fouls in the fourth, Hart said, “I like my money.” The Stats: He scored 6 points on 2-11 shooting (1-9 from three, 1-1 from the line) to go with 7 boards, 4 assists, 2 blocks and 5 fouls in 33 minutes. He was a -7. The Action: He blocked a drive and recovered it. Not close on a corner three out of a timeout. He attacked in transition and scored an And-1 layup, he made the FT. He missed a three straight away. He attacked off the three line in early offense and missed the layup. He hit KCP for a three in transition. He rejected a drive out of bounds on help D. Second Half: He missed a wing three. He pushed out a long board and kicked to Svi for three. He sank a catch-and-shoot three straight away. He missed a wing three. He missed an open corner three. He ball faked and missed a three over the zone. He missed a three, got it back and missed it again with 20 seconds left.

Caldwell-Pope -- -- We’ve added him to the starting lineup with all the injuries. On his way to a big game, then faded in the second half. He had 14 points on 4-9 shooting in the first half and then 5 points on 2-7 shooting in the second half. A couple of nice passing sequences when he attacked (and not enough of that). We need to do a better job of setting him up in the fourth just to get some more consistency in the offense. The Stats: He scored 19 points on 6-16 shooting (4-12 from three, 3-3 form the line) to go with 6 boards, 3 assists and 4 fouls in 36 minutes. He was a -12. The Action: He attacked and missed a scoop. He let a man fly by and hit the wing three. He missed a three in transition. He hit Zubac with a pocket pass for a dunk. Not close on a corner three. He hit Zubac for FTs on the two-man game. He swished an And-1 elbow pull-up off a handoff, he made the FT. He sank a wing three in transition. He missed a three in transition. He attacked from the corner and was fouled, he made both FTs. He sank a corner three on a swing pass. Second Half: He iso’d and sank a long pull-up wing jumper. He missed a three on a low kickout. He wasn’t ready for a switch and it led to an And-1 score at the rim. He read the overplay, cut to the corner, took the pass and swished the open three. He pumped and missed a wing three. He ballwatched and gave up a backdoor layup. He missed a pull-up wing three. He missed a wing three. Robbed on charge call on some great anticipation, wow. He missed a three.

Chandler -- -- Quiet night from him. I think I would have liked to see more Zubac who had the crowd going and is a more dynamic scorer. I think guys just look for him more because of that and it leads to some better passing. Tyson in, they tend to really try to work off his screens and that leads into more iso. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 1-1 shooting (2-2 from the line) to go with 4 boards and 1 foul in 12 minutes. He was a +2. The Action: He missed an easy And-1 layup at the front of the rim, he made both FTs. He dunked off the interior feed from Beasley. Second Half: He tied up a big on an offensive board.

Stephenson -- -- This was probably a game where we needed to let him run things more in the fourth. He had sparked the team and helped the Lakers get the lead with his passing and occasional scoring. In the fourth, his young teammates tried to run the show and we saw what happened from that. When Lance is passing the ball this well (team-high 7 assists), then that’s when you let him dominate the ball more. Luke gave him the minutes, but I think in the fourth quarter, they were a bit hollow. Lance seemed pretty displeased when he sat late in the fourth. Some excellent chemistry with his bigmen, setting them up again and again. This also got the crowd going. Ride that when it happens. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 4-9 shooting (0-3 from three, 0-1 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 7 assists, 2 blocks, 2 turnovers and 5 fouls in 29 minutes. He was a +4. The Action: He missed a sideline three. He attacked in early offense and scored a layup going to his left. He hit Ingram for a dunk in transition. He missed a corner three. Swing pass to KCP for a three. Second Half: He hit McGee on the slip screen for the score. He attacked and set up McGee for the layup. He found him again off the two-man game for the short one. Beautiful bounce pass off the two-man game to Zubac for a layup. He got tapped on a corner three. After Zubac blew a behind-the-back feed that from Lance that would have been a dunk, Lance again went back to him on the same sequence behind his back and this time Zu caught it and dunked. He attacked, hung and couldn’t finish. He attacked and missed the short one (he was irritated there was no foul call). He attacked baseline and this time got the call on the And-1 layup, he missed the FT. He attacked off the high screen and scored the lefty layup. Tough pass in traffic behind his back, turnover. He probed the lane and scored a layup.

Zubac -- -- He had 6 points and 6 boards in just 11 first half minutes. He helped steady the Lakers after their poor start. In the third quarter, he sparked the team with a rejection that led to a score the other way. Lance had some nice sequences with him for some scores. He led the Lakers with the +5, but only got 12 minutes. At least, he’s making the most of his minutes (10 points in 12 minutes…play him more tonight, Luke!). The Stats: He scored 10 points on 4-6 shooting (2-2 from the line) to go with 6 boards (2 offensive), 2 assists, 1 block, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 12 minutes. He was a +5. The Action: He gave a layup on a drive. He took the pocket pass, a dribble and then dunked with both hands. He drew FTs on the two-man game with KCP, he made both. He was blocked on a jumphook, got it back and banked in the short one. Second Half: He took a bounce pass from Lance in the lane and scored a layup. On the other end, he erased a drive to ignite a breakaway score. He couldn’t handle a behind-the-back pass from Lance that would have been a dunk. Next time, he was ready for the behind-the-back pass and dunked off it as we broke down the zone.

Mykhailiuk -- -- Defensively, a bit soft to start the game. He’d hit a big three in the second half on the break when the Lakers were starting to finally show some fight. The Stats: He scored 3 points on 1-4 shooting from three to go with 1 steal and 1 turnover in 11 minutes. He was a +4. The Action: He gave up a layup. He was tripped with no call and coughed it up. He deflected a pass to get a break going. Second Half: With the crowd on their feet, he drained a wing three on a kickout from Hart in transition. He grabbed loose ball and missed a pull-up wing three with the clock low. XXX He missed a wing three, we got it back to him and he missed again from the same spot.

Beasley -- -- He missed 13 games with his mother’s terminal illness. With some of their vets out, they really missed someone with just an ability to put the ball in the hole. Glad to see him back, especially now with Kuzma out. Hopefully, he can fill in well as he gets back into the speed of things. Luke brought him off the bench in the first half, but started him in the second half. The lineup I wanted to see more of but didn’t in this game was McGee, Beasley, Hart, KCP, Lonzo. A mix of scorers and some more traditional size at the PF spot. Beasley scored all his points in the first half with his bench crew, but didn’t get anything in the second half. The Stats: He scored 6 points on 2-3 shooting (2-4 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 1 assist and 1 foul in 12 minutes. He was a +2. The Action: He scooped up a loose ball, attacked in transition and drew FTs, he missed both. He knocked a board away from Ingram to give up a second chance and a three. He attacked from the corner and scooped a layup around a defender. He hit Chandler off the short roll for a dunk. He attacked from the elbow and scored a layup. They found him on the pocket pass for FTs, he missed both. He drew FTs on a two-man sequence, he made both. Second Half: He missed a runner attacking off the three line.

Walton -- -- The Lakers quickly trailed 15-5 after 4 minutes, giving up five wide open threes. Timeout… He brought in Zubac for McGee after 6 minutes down 15… Lance in for BI, who went to the locker room, Lakers down big… They cut the lead down to 8 and forced a timeout… Svi in for Lonzo down 11… The Lakers trailed 39-25 after the first quarter. The Knicks tied their highest scoring quarter of the year… He started a Chandler, Beasley, Ingram, Svi, Stephenson lineup. Lonzo back in for Ingram, Lakers down 10… McGee, Beasley, Hart, KCP, Lonzo still down 10. This lineup seems like they are ready for a run… But they bring Ingram back in for Beasley down 8. Uggh. And a turnover again by Ingram as soon as he came back in (his fourth of the half)… They cut it to 4 and forced a timeout… Stephenson in with 1:23 left for Hart down 5… The Lakers trailed 63-59… Hart in for Beasley after 5 minutes, Lakers down 8… Lance in for Lonzo, down 3… They cut the lead to 2 behind some layups for McGee off some setups from Lance… Svi and Zubac in out of that timeout to go with Ingram, Hart and Lance… They pulled out to a 4-point lead and forced a timeout… They led 92-86 heading into the fourth… He started a Zubac, Hart, Svi, Lance, Lonzo lineup… Quick timeout and he brought back in Chandler for Zu up 2. Don’t think that was the problem… Svi out for KCP up 1… Lakers were in the penalty with 8:31 left… Ingram in, score tied… McGee in, Lakers up 1… KCP out for Hart with 5 minutes left down 1… Lance out for KCP, Lakers down 3 with 2:28 left… Out of a timeout, Lonzo didn’t get the ball inbounds, turnover. That killed the Lakers down 5. Then he would throw the ball away later… Just 4 steals tonight for the Lakers…


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:57 pm    Post subject:

No words. That sucked. Thanks DB.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:04 pm    Post subject:

Thanks DB! No coffee for the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:43 pm    Post subject:

Thanks for the write up Chief.
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In other words, excuse the strength in language, we were short 2 b@!!$(Rondo, Kuzma) and a p#@!!u$(Lebron).
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:57 pm    Post subject:

Just very disappointing to see our young core fall short game after game lately. Makes me think that I overrated their potential.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:26 am    Post subject:

I knew we were in for a long night after the 25-8 start and after they gave up 39 (!) first quarter points to one of the most offensively challenged teams in the league. Wide open threes, then dunks and layups, combined with horrible offense with turnovers galore? Yeah, that won't get it done. Thought they had turned the corner when finally going up, but then Mario freaking Hezonja chanelled his inner Kobe Bryant, blocking Ingram, draining shots and getting to the line. Just horrible, losing against one of the three worst teams in the league that was on an 8-game losing streak.

Some other numbers: 40 something fast break points for a team that averages 10. 41 FTA despite the Lakers living in the paint. Forcing only 6 turnovers, while giving up 16 at the other end of the floor. A pathetic showing when it was time to step up.

Thanks for the write up, DB.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:28 am    Post subject:

We are a dumb team that is weak on fundamentals. How much of this is the byproduct of coaching? I do not know the answer to that.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:21 am    Post subject:

As Big Game James stated, this type of effort is NOT on Luke.

Problem is who is the leader on the court? Logically it should be either Lonzo or BI, hence where were they?

With BI’s moves being well-scouted and he had no counters or adjustments to their coverage, he was getting blocked again and again and again and again. Lance Stevenson showed what can be done if one just passed a few times. It is clear that BI is not Kobe (who is) and can take a team on his back like The Beard, Booker, Greek Freak, Luko, Kawaii, Curry, Kyrie and a few others - hopefully just not st this time.

Which Laker is the best when the best is required (thanks to John Wooden)?

Hart wanted to be a starter. This good player will probably be a starter in a few years when his game is more complete and consistent.

Hopefully the healthy players were totally embarrassed by this performance and put a beating on the TWolves on Sunday - that is the test!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:44 am    Post subject:

Young core trade values plummeting each game. No way Pels want them for AD.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:26 am    Post subject:

Quit your crying about AD Jesus Christ lol. How about you say playoff spot plummeting after each game. Smdh.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:33 am    Post subject:

Luminous8 wrote:
Quit your crying about AD Jesus Christ lol. How about you say playoff spot plummeting after each game. Smdh.


Someone is in a bad mood.

As the board’s BI defense attorney wouldn’t that make you happy if BI is not traded?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:58 am    Post subject:

I saw where the game was going so quite honestly I left and went out and met friends and lived my life on a Friday night LOL

Thanks for the write up DB.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:08 am    Post subject:

leor_77 wrote:
Just very disappointing to see our young core fall short game after game lately. Makes me think that I overrated their potential.


Me too.

Thanks, DB!
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