Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:34 pm Post subject: If it wasn't for the Lakers, I would probably be done with the NBA
The fact that I've been a Lakers fan for over 30 years and there is nothing that I enjoy more than sitting down and watching a Lakers game, is the only reason why I still watch this joke of a league. This league is in the business of manufacturing stars, in order to market around the world. Tonight's game was a disgrace. The Refereeing was absolutely disgusting! All done to keep the Harden narrative going! It's not just last night but this happens on a nightly basis all around the league.
They have taken defense completely out of the game and gave all of the advantages to the offensive players. The Rockets don't even play basketball, they just shoot 3's. They have a "manufactured star" that has more free throws and 3 pointers on the season than regular baskets. That is not basketball.
This league is going downhill fast and it's the Lakers, and only the Lakers that keeps me watching!
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:09 am Post subject:
Besides these phantom foul calls that go in favor of Harden the NBA is actually in great shape right now.
Too bad the league's officiating is such a huge problem sometimes that it overshadows the great stars in the league right now and how much the quality of play has improved over the past 10-15 years.
The officiating is enough for even the most optimistic of us to put on a tin foil hat. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:15 am Post subject:
The whole narrative about Harden being a "manufactured superstar" is a little overblown, IMO. The guy is undeniably a major offensive talent. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
The whole narrative about Harden being a "manufactured superstar" is a little overblown, IMO. The guy is undeniably a major offensive talent.
Yeah we designed our entire defense just to stop him and he still scored 48 points without CP3 or Capela to draw defenders away from him.
He's the best player in the league right now.
I hate the cheating and flopping... but he's reached another level.
When all Shaq did was dunk... no one said, well that's all that Shaq does.
Harden's game isn't aesthetically pleasing but until someone stops him, you have to give him credit.
No one's done two fifty point games in a row since Chamberlain and he almost did it three times.
Crazy stuff... Jordan, Kobe... no one has done what he's been doing this week.
This. I hate the flops and ref baiting but it's smart on his part and its on the refs to officiate properly... People hate on him even when he has low FTA games and still drops a 40 point triple dub.
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The whole narrative about Harden being a "manufactured superstar" is a little overblown, IMO. The guy is undeniably a major offensive talent.
Yeah we designed our entire defense just to stop him and he still scored 48 points without CP3 or Capela to draw defenders away from him.
He's the best player in the league right now.
I hate the cheating and flopping... but he's reached another level.
When all Shaq did was dunk... no one said, well that's all that Shaq does.
Harden's game isn't aesthetically pleasing but until someone stops him, you have to give him credit.
No one's done two fifty point games in a row since Chamberlain and he almost did it three times.
Crazy stuff... Jordan, Kobe... no one has done what he's been doing this week.
Didn't Kobe score 50 or more four straight times?
Yeah. But Harden has 19 consecutive games with 30 points and counting. No one has done that since Wilt. He is absurd. Most unstoppable offensive player since Kobe in his prime.
How many 50 point games would Jordan have strung together if he had a clear path to the hoop on every drive? Harden's a great scorer, sure. But you can't touch him. How many would Kobe have scored every game if he was allowed to push off on every shot? How many would Wilt have scored if he were allowed to travel on every play?
Harden takes what Lebron started to the extreme, and it's bad for basketball. I remember growing up playing ball in the 80's and every dude in LB had "Lil' Jordan" scribbled in his shoes and jacked up shots and never passed and I hated Jordan for it. It took 25 years for the NBA to get team basketball back to something everything was trying to achieve. Now I see the younger generation doing the same crap Harden is doing, and I don't blame them for emulating it.
Incredible stamina. Another unreal stat he has is averaging 45.8 minutes a game for his career! Mind blowing. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold.
The whole narrative about Harden being a "manufactured superstar" is a little overblown, IMO. The guy is undeniably a major offensive talent.
Yeah we designed our entire defense just to stop him and he still scored 48 points without CP3 or Capela to draw defenders away from him.
He's the best player in the league right now.
I hate the cheating and flopping... but he's reached another level.
When all Shaq did was dunk... no one said, well that's all that Shaq does.
Harden's game isn't aesthetically pleasing but until someone stops him, you have to give him credit.
No one's done two fifty point games in a row since Chamberlain and he almost did it three times.
Crazy stuff... Jordan, Kobe... no one has done what he's been doing this week.
I think Shaq is a bad example. The referees did not know how to officiate games he played in. However, they were actually smart enough to turn a blind eye and let MANY calls go in order not to ruin the games. If they officiated in the games Shaq played in like they currently do with regards to Harden, the games would have lasted 4 hours. There was not a time when Shaq was not fouled. The calls that Harden gets are borderline ridiculous.
How many 50 point games would Jordan have strung together if he had a clear path to the hoop on every drive? Harden's a great scorer, sure. But you can't touch him. How many would Kobe have scored every game if he was allowed to push off on every shot? How many would Wilt have scored if he were allowed to travel on every play?
Harden takes what Lebron started to the extreme, and it's bad for basketball. I remember growing up playing ball in the 80's and every dude in LB had "Lil' Jordan" scribbled in his shoes and jacked up shots and never passed and I hated Jordan for it. It took 25 years for the NBA to get team basketball back to something everything was trying to achieve. Now I see the younger generation doing the same crap Harden is doing, and I don't blame them for emulating it.
The year Jordan averaged 37 points a game... the 20th highest scorer scored 21.7 points
This year the 20th highest scorer averages 21.7 points
I don't think things have changed as drastically as you think in terms of individual production.
If the scoring is higher due to defensive restrictions and the introduction of the 14 second clock... why isn't everyone scoring like crazy?
The whole narrative about Harden being a "manufactured superstar" is a little overblown, IMO. The guy is undeniably a major offensive talent.
Yeah we designed our entire defense just to stop him and he still scored 48 points without CP3 or Capela to draw defenders away from him.
He's the best player in the league right now.
I hate the cheating and flopping... but he's reached another level.
When all Shaq did was dunk... no one said, well that's all that Shaq does.
Harden's game isn't aesthetically pleasing but until someone stops him, you have to give him credit.
No one's done two fifty point games in a row since Chamberlain and he almost did it three times.
Crazy stuff... Jordan, Kobe... no one has done what he's been doing this week.
I think Shaq is a bad example. The referees did not know how to officiate games he played in. However, they were actually smart enough to turn a blind eye and let MANY calls go in order not to ruin the games. If they officiated in the games Shaq played in like they currently do with regards to Harden, the games would have lasted 4 hours. There was not a time when Shaq was not fouled. The calls that Harden gets are borderline ridiculous.
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:08 am Post subject:
Sentient Meat wrote:
jmnluvr wrote:
How many 50 point games would Jordan have strung together if he had a clear path to the hoop on every drive? Harden's a great scorer, sure. But you can't touch him. How many would Kobe have scored every game if he was allowed to push off on every shot? How many would Wilt have scored if he were allowed to travel on every play?
Harden takes what Lebron started to the extreme, and it's bad for basketball. I remember growing up playing ball in the 80's and every dude in LB had "Lil' Jordan" scribbled in his shoes and jacked up shots and never passed and I hated Jordan for it. It took 25 years for the NBA to get team basketball back to something everything was trying to achieve. Now I see the younger generation doing the same crap Harden is doing, and I don't blame them for emulating it.
The year Jordan averaged 37 points a game... the 20th highest scorer scored 21.7 points
This year the 20th highest scorer averages 21.7 points
I don't think things have changed as drastically as you think in terms of individual production.
If the scoring is higher due to defensive restrictions and the introduction of the 14 second clock... why isn't everyone scoring like crazy?
Because the 20th best perimeter player in the league isn't that great. Doesn't get the phantom calls and is playing next to one or two other guys that can chuck three's too so the team decides to give them shots.
The whole narrative about Harden being a "manufactured superstar" is a little overblown, IMO. The guy is undeniably a major offensive talent.
Yeah we designed our entire defense just to stop him and he still scored 48 points without CP3 or Capela to draw defenders away from him.
He's the best player in the league right now.
I hate the cheating and flopping... but he's reached another level.
When all Shaq did was dunk... no one said, well that's all that Shaq does.
Harden's game isn't aesthetically pleasing but until someone stops him, you have to give him credit.
No one's done two fifty point games in a row since Chamberlain and he almost did it three times.
Crazy stuff... Jordan, Kobe... no one has done what he's been doing this week.
I think Shaq is a bad example. The referees did not know how to officiate games he played in. However, they were actually smart enough to turn a blind eye and let MANY calls go in order not to ruin the games. If they officiated in the games Shaq played in like they currently do with regards to Harden, the games would have lasted 4 hours. There was not a time when Shaq was not fouled. The calls that Harden gets are borderline ridiculous.
This. Harden is the anti-shaq.
I was referring to Harden's seemingly one dimensional game offensively.
However, one could argue the refs were doing him a favor by letting him score instead of having to go to the line all the time.
The whole narrative about Harden being a "manufactured superstar" is a little overblown, IMO. The guy is undeniably a major offensive talent.
Yeah we designed our entire defense just to stop him and he still scored 48 points without CP3 or Capela to draw defenders away from him.
He's the best player in the league right now.
I hate the cheating and flopping... but he's reached another level.
When all Shaq did was dunk... no one said, well that's all that Shaq does.
Harden's game isn't aesthetically pleasing but until someone stops him, you have to give him credit.
No one's done two fifty point games in a row since Chamberlain and he almost did it three times.
Crazy stuff... Jordan, Kobe... no one has done what he's been doing this week.
I think Shaq is a bad example. The referees did not know how to officiate games he played in. However, they were actually smart enough to turn a blind eye and let MANY calls go in order not to ruin the games. If they officiated in the games Shaq played in like they currently do with regards to Harden, the games would have lasted 4 hours. There was not a time when Shaq was not fouled. The calls that Harden gets are borderline ridiculous.
Fans of other team would beg to differ. Notice, that the fans of teams always feel this way about players not on their team.
Back in the day, people used to complain all day about Shaq getting foul calls. You just didn't hear it like you do now because social wasn't as big.
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