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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:20 pm    Post subject:

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I have not kept up with this story on a national level, but I have seen that multiple local men that were arrested in this sting have now been cleared of all charges. I saw one man on the local news who had never even patronized the establishment, and is suing the police. I feel for the guy....the news spread through his church, his kids schools, and his community and he had never even heard of the spa. Somehow, the police mistakenly linked a car in a video that was in a ladies name....and got it mixed up with him (or something like that).

I would not be surprised if this whole operation ends up falling apart. Many or these local and county law enforcement departments are just not capable of pulling off these long term complex investigations without screwing things up.


Which is even more reason for Kraft's lawyers to advise him not to plead.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:27 am    Post subject:

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I have not kept up with this story on a national level, but I have seen that multiple local men that were arrested in this sting have now been cleared of all charges. I saw one man on the local news who had never even patronized the establishment, and is suing the police. I feel for the guy....the news spread through his church, his kids schools, and his community and he had never even heard of the spa. Somehow, the police mistakenly linked a car in a video that was in a ladies name....and got it mixed up with him (or something like that).

I would not be surprised if this whole operation ends up falling apart. Many or these local and county law enforcement departments are just not capable of pulling off these long term complex investigations without screwing things up.


That's a mistake that can be corrected.

My understanding is they have Kraft on tape participating in a sex act, manual or oral. How do you dispute that?

Solange was on tape kicking JayZ. Rice was taped abusing his mate. There was no defense for those acts.

My suspense is, how are Kraft's lawyers going to debunk a video tape? They must have a strategy.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:48 am    Post subject:

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I have not kept up with this story on a national level, but I have seen that multiple local men that were arrested in this sting have now been cleared of all charges. I saw one man on the local news who had never even patronized the establishment, and is suing the police. I feel for the guy....the news spread through his church, his kids schools, and his community and he had never even heard of the spa. Somehow, the police mistakenly linked a car in a video that was in a ladies name....and got it mixed up with him (or something like that).

I would not be surprised if this whole operation ends up falling apart. Many or these local and county law enforcement departments are just not capable of pulling off these long term complex investigations without screwing things up.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:51 am    Post subject:

Report: Offer made to drop charges against Kraft

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Prosecutors have offered New England Patriots owner and several other men a deal where charges would be dropped for soliciting prostitution, a source told the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday.

But there is a catch: Kraft and the other men would have to admit they would have been proven guilty at trial after they review the evidence, the paper reported.

Attorneys for Kraft, when asked about the report Tuesday by ESPN's T.J. Quinn, declined to comment.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:17 am    Post subject:

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Report: Offer made to drop charges against Kraft

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Prosecutors have offered New England Patriots owner and several other men a deal where charges would be dropped for soliciting prostitution, a source told the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday.

But there is a catch: Kraft and the other men would have to admit they would have been proven guilty at trial after they review the evidence, the paper reported.

Attorneys for Kraft, when asked about the report Tuesday by ESPN's T.J. Quinn, declined to comment.


I read that earlier....I find it strange to drop charges if the person admits they would be found guilty if it went to trial.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:06 pm    Post subject:

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Report: Offer made to drop charges against Kraft

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Prosecutors have offered New England Patriots owner and several other men a deal where charges would be dropped for soliciting prostitution, a source told the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday.

But there is a catch: Kraft and the other men would have to admit they would have been proven guilty at trial after they review the evidence, the paper reported.

Attorneys for Kraft, when asked about the report Tuesday by ESPN's T.J. Quinn, declined to comment.


I read that earlier....I find it strange to drop charges if the person admits they would be found guilty if it went to trial.


Yeah, something doesn't track here. "Admit you're guilty and we will drop all the charges without any other concessions" . . . hmmmmm?

EDIT: This makes more sense

It's a plea deal, not simply dropping the charges:

Kraft's proposed penance includes ... completing a course about prostitution and 100 hours of community service. He would also have to submit to an STD test. Yeesh.

There's more ... Kraft would also have to state that if the case were to go to trial, he would be found guilty.

We're told the deal is not specific to Kraft -- other men busted in the prostitution sting have received the same offer.

The issue for Kraft ... he's already pled not guilty, and there doesn't seem to be any upside in the offer from prosecutors -- so it would be shocking if he accepted this deal, or anything close to it.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:01 pm    Post subject:

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There's more ... Kraft would also have to state that if the case were to go to trial, he would be found guilty.


this is the part that sounded weird to me.....it sounds like the judicial version of "say uncle".
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There's more ... Kraft would also have to state that if the case were to go to trial, he would be found guilty.


this is the part that sounded weird to me.....it sounds like the judicial version of "say uncle".


Yep. And with no upside for Kraft. Not to mix metaphors, but who's going to fold first?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:37 pm    Post subject:

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Report: Offer made to drop charges against Kraft

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Prosecutors have offered New England Patriots owner and several other men a deal where charges would be dropped for soliciting prostitution, a source told the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday.

But there is a catch: Kraft and the other men would have to admit they would have been proven guilty at trial after they review the evidence, the paper reported.

Attorneys for Kraft, when asked about the report Tuesday by ESPN's T.J. Quinn, declined to comment.

Lawyers making money. Have the names of any other prominent gentlemen been mentioned? Only scar I see is to Kraft's image and that's really not a scar because it says at his age still has the desire and ability.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:57 pm    Post subject:

No reason for him to plead guilty. His lawyers can beat the charges and he also avoids getting penalized by the NFL.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:01 pm    Post subject:

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No reason for him to plead guilty. His lawyers can beat the charges and he also avoids getting penalized by the NFL.

Yeah, pay the system, keep the affluent above the law. SMH
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:20 am    Post subject:

Kraft files motion to suppress evidence

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Attorneys for New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft filed a motion Wednesday to suppress evidence -- notably the video evidence -- in his solicitation of prostitution case, according to a source.

The motion is an effort to make sure that the surveillance video, described as graphic and damning, isn't released if he doesn't reach a plea deal with prosecutors. It also is a warning shot to prosecutors that Kraft's legal team will try to go after the state's case by saying there was no probable cause to collect the evidence in the first place.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:34 pm    Post subject:

I hope when it is all said and done the NFL bans him for the entire season.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:01 pm    Post subject:

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I hope when it is all said and done the NFL bans him for the entire season.

Ban him from what?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:25 pm    Post subject:

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Kraft files motion to suppress evidence

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Attorneys for New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft filed a motion Wednesday to suppress evidence -- notably the video evidence -- in his solicitation of prostitution case, according to a source.

The motion is an effort to make sure that the surveillance video, described as graphic and damning, isn't released if he doesn't reach a plea deal with prosecutors. It also is a warning shot to prosecutors that Kraft's legal team will try to go after the state's case by saying there was no probable cause to collect the evidence in the first place.


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https://sports.yahoo.com/florida-sheriff-videos-in-robert-kraft-case-are-probably-going-to-get-released-193013559.html

They aren't playing. No Roger Goodell to save the day and destroy the tapes.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:02 pm    Post subject:

Alright, be honest, who’s gonna watch the tape?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:44 pm    Post subject:

Per Adam Schefter:

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1109238109387005952?s=12

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Robert Kraft’s attorney, William Burck, to ESPN: “There was no human trafficking and law enforcement knows it. The video and the traffic stop were illegal and law enforcement just doesn’t want to admit it.

The state attorney needs to step up and do the right thing and investigate how the evidence in this case was obtained.”
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:46 pm    Post subject:

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Per Adam Schefter:

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1109238109387005952?s=12

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Robert Kraft’s attorney, William Burck, to ESPN: “There was no human trafficking and law enforcement knows it. The video and the traffic stop were illegal and law enforcement just doesn’t want to admit it.

The state attorney needs to step up and do the right thing and investigate how the evidence in this case was obtained.”


rich people BS...no collusion
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:46 pm    Post subject:

VicXLakers wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
Per Adam Schefter:

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1109238109387005952?s=12

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Robert Kraft’s attorney, William Burck, to ESPN: “There was no human trafficking and law enforcement knows it. The video and the traffic stop were illegal and law enforcement just doesn’t want to admit it.

The state attorney needs to step up and do the right thing and investigate how the evidence in this case was obtained.”


rich people BS...no collusion


Or blue uniform BS. Who knows.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:48 pm    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
VicXLakers wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
Per Adam Schefter:

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1109238109387005952?s=12

Quote:
Robert Kraft’s attorney, William Burck, to ESPN: “There was no human trafficking and law enforcement knows it. The video and the traffic stop were illegal and law enforcement just doesn’t want to admit it.

The state attorney needs to step up and do the right thing and investigate how the evidence in this case was obtained.”


rich people BS...no collusion


Or blue uniform BS. Who knows.


the vid is on porn hub already so rich people bs
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:57 pm    Post subject:

VicXLakers wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
VicXLakers wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
Per Adam Schefter:

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1109238109387005952?s=12

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Robert Kraft’s attorney, William Burck, to ESPN: “There was no human trafficking and law enforcement knows it. The video and the traffic stop were illegal and law enforcement just doesn’t want to admit it.

The state attorney needs to step up and do the right thing and investigate how the evidence in this case was obtained.”


rich people BS...no collusion


Or blue uniform BS. Who knows.


the vid is on porn hub already so rich people bs


Oh theres no doubt Kraft tried to get a rub and tug.

Or was it more than that?

I was talking more about whether the sting operation was legit or not.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:35 pm    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
VicXLakers wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
VicXLakers wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
Per Adam Schefter:

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1109238109387005952?s=12

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Robert Kraft’s attorney, William Burck, to ESPN: “There was no human trafficking and law enforcement knows it. The video and the traffic stop were illegal and law enforcement just doesn’t want to admit it.

The state attorney needs to step up and do the right thing and investigate how the evidence in this case was obtained.”


rich people BS...no collusion


Or blue uniform BS. Who knows.


the vid is on porn hub already so rich people bs


Oh theres no doubt Kraft tried to get a rub and tug.

Or was it more than that?

I was talking more about whether the sting operation was legit or not.


doesn't matter...lock this guy up and throw away the key...he enabled human trafficking...the lowest of the low
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:07 pm    Post subject:

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doesn't matter...lock this guy up and throw away the key...he enabled human trafficking...the lowest of the low


I would say that is a major reach.

He basically is guilty of solicitation, the human trafficking angle has proven to pretty much be nonsense in this case.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:29 pm    Post subject:

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doesn't matter...lock this guy up and throw away the key...he enabled human trafficking...the lowest of the low


I would say that is a major reach.

He basically is guilty of solicitation, the human trafficking angle has proven to pretty much be nonsense in this case.


maybe (money has a way of changing the narrative) but those stripmall whorehouses are very often employed with unwilling participants
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:15 pm    Post subject:

VicXLakers wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
VicXLakers wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
VicXLakers wrote:
ringfinger wrote:
Per Adam Schefter:

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1109238109387005952?s=12

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Robert Kraft’s attorney, William Burck, to ESPN: “There was no human trafficking and law enforcement knows it. The video and the traffic stop were illegal and law enforcement just doesn’t want to admit it.

The state attorney needs to step up and do the right thing and investigate how the evidence in this case was obtained.”


rich people BS...no collusion


Or blue uniform BS. Who knows.


the vid is on porn hub already so rich people bs


Oh theres no doubt Kraft tried to get a rub and tug.

Or was it more than that?

I was talking more about whether the sting operation was legit or not.


doesn't matter...lock this guy up and throw away the key...he enabled human trafficking...the lowest of the low

It was reported the women who Kraft interacted with were not victims of human trafficking. He may have been unaware of that segment of the business. LINK
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But it appears Kraft was caught on camera getting services from two women who are not victims of human trafficking: the 45-year-old manager of the spa, Lei Wang, and 58-year-old spa employee Shen Mingbi, also believed to be an operator of the business — both licensed masseuses and Florida residents.

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