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slavavov
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 Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:06 pm Post subject: Jason Whitlock: Lebron should leave Lakers right now |
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This guy (Whitlock) is out there with his hot takes, but he does make a point. On "Speak For Yourself", Whitlock said Lebron should ask to be traded because the Lakers are not just a mess, it's unfixable, and he also seems to argue that if he does that, he can deflect the blame for this season onto Magic and Rob.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYe6RY1eZ0Y
I think if Lebron did it, it would hurt his reputation even more. The narrative around him changed right after he signed here in that people started saying that no one wants to play with him and that the environment around him is toxic. If he demanding a trade after this season it would tarnish his reputation and he would come off as a straight-up wimp.
On the other hand, if the Lakers don't reach the WCF next season, I could see Lebron's posse start making noise about him possibly leaving after the next season when he can opt out and become a FA. The same thing happened in Cleveland in late 2008, in Miami around 2012 and in Cleveland early in the 2017 NBA finals.
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kwase
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| If the Lakers suck again next year he's definitely asking to be traded. He always bounces when the going gets tough and the only thing he's ever been loyal to is himself. |
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Runway8
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I would not object to a Lebron trade. Does Mikhail Prokhorov still own the Nets? We should ask for 8 first rd picks and D"angelo Russell. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Please ask for a trade
He's washed up |
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ducasse2
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Stupid opinion. The Lakers have cap space and can sign a prime free agent to get him help in the offseason. Then AD is a free agent after that. Only if they fail to get another all star in here does this make any sense.
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Staccatos
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Jason Whitlock has no takes, hot or not.
He just has wet oozing piles of excrement that he occasionally drops on people's doorsteps. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I quit reading when I saw "Jason Whitlock"..... |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I think a trade could benefit both parties....but it would not be easy. Which teams would he likely ever consider.....Knicks, Heat, Rockets? Chicago (probably not)....76'ers (probably not)...then which of those teams have enough young talent and assets to move to acquire Lebron? Then which one of them would still be in a position to still have the veterans or ability to acquire enough talent to win with Lebron? I do not see any this summer....maybe the Rockets with a deal built around Capella? |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I saw Jason Whitlock. That was all |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| pio2u wrote: | | I quit reading when I saw "Jason Whitlock"..... |
I don’t blame you at all, he always tries to stick it to the Lakers, especially during the Kobe era. Will never give him the click-throughs or views. |
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About as dumb an idea as the "amnesty Kobe" thing Cuban blurted out back in 2012.
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| Trade him straight up for Siakam... and maybe that shakes loose Kawhi in our direction. |
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Sure I'll trade LeBron.
To Phoenix, for their 1st round pick along with Deandre Ayton and Josh Jackson.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Should've flipped him for AD at the trade deadline.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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I would trade Lebron for.....
Clint Capela
Eric Gordon
Nene (if needed for salaries)
2019 1st Round Pick
2020 1st Round Pick Swap Option
2020 2nd Round Pick
2021 1st Round Pick
2022 1st Round Pick Swap Option
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if unable to sign max FA this summer....Gordon and Nene come off books next summer, and I think with Capella's salary, we could keep Ingrams cap hold and still go after AD. AD could play the 4 and Capella the 5.....have Ball, Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, Wagner, Bonga....and a ton of assets to trade for whoever come available. |
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If we strike out in FA this summer, and an AD acquisition appears unlikely (say, he gets traded to the Clippers and immediately signs an extension), then you start looking at all your options, including dealing Lebron.
But people need to stop with the "hot takes" about what to do today. It's silly.
At a minimum, we need to wait until the draft lottery.
The Lakers, as unlikely as it is, could wind up with the #1 pick. I don't expect it, but it's out there as a possibility.
Let the variables solidify and then move forward. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| defense wrote: | Please ask for a trade
He's washed up |
Omg, you are so right. Averaging almost 28, 8 and 8 still, man he's terrible. Talk about starting retirement planning now.  |
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| anth2000 wrote: | | defense wrote: | Please ask for a trade
He's washed up |
Omg, you are so right. Averaging almost 28, 8 and 8 still, man he's terrible. Talk about starting retirement planning now. |
Lebron is just not a fit for the Lakers, our organization is bigger than Lebron and Lebron typically wants to go somewhere where he can bully and dictate to the organization what to do. If magic, pelinka, and jeannie allow that to happen here then they are a disgrace. I'd honestly trade Lebron now before his value diminishes more. We can accelerate our rebuild and setup our future nicely by trading Lebron. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| Staccatos wrote: | Jason Whitlock has no takes, hot or not.
He just has wet oozing piles of excrement that he occasionally drops on people's doorsteps. |
This. I don't know why people listen to that guy.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| anth2000 wrote: | | defense wrote: | Please ask for a trade
He's washed up |
Omg, you are so right. Averaging almost 28, 8 and 8 still, man he's terrible. Talk about starting retirement planning now. |
His 28, 8 and 8 has been useless. We'd be in the same exact spot without him. The roster did the about the same last year and we were 4th in the West at one point in time this year because of our easy schedule at the start. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| lonzobryant wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | | defense wrote: | Please ask for a trade
He's washed up |
Omg, you are so right. Averaging almost 28, 8 and 8 still, man he's terrible. Talk about starting retirement planning now. |
His 28, 8 and 8 has been useless. We'd be in the same exact spot without him. The roster did the about the same last year and we were 4th in the West at one point in time this year because of our easy schedule at the start. |
Why was he the leading all star vote getter this year, then? What about the 180 turnaround from the Heat and the Cavs after he left those teams? Eight consecutive finals appearances, was he just lucky to be on the right team at the right time? FYI, at 30-35, we still have a better winning percentage than we did last year even though I think last year's supporting cast was much better with Nance, JR and Brolo.
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| lonzobryant wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | | defense wrote: | Please ask for a trade
He's washed up |
Omg, you are so right. Averaging almost 28, 8 and 8 still, man he's terrible. Talk about starting retirement planning now. |
His 28, 8 and 8 has been useless. We'd be in the same exact spot without him. The roster did the about the same last year and we were 4th in the West at one point in time this year because of our easy schedule at the start. |
W/O LBJ we would be odds on favorite to land the #1 pick. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| pio2u wrote: | | lonzobryant wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | | defense wrote: | Please ask for a trade
He's washed up |
Omg, you are so right. Averaging almost 28, 8 and 8 still, man he's terrible. Talk about starting retirement planning now. |
His 28, 8 and 8 has been useless. We'd be in the same exact spot without him. The roster did the about the same last year and we were 4th in the West at one point in time this year because of our easy schedule at the start. |
W/O LBJ we would be odds on favorite to land the #1 pick. |
*shakes fist at Rondo*
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | | lonzobryant wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | | defense wrote: | Please ask for a trade
He's washed up |
Omg, you are so right. Averaging almost 28, 8 and 8 still, man he's terrible. Talk about starting retirement planning now. |
His 28, 8 and 8 has been useless. We'd be in the same exact spot without him. The roster did the about the same last year and we were 4th in the West at one point in time this year because of our easy schedule at the start. |
W/O LBJ we would be odds on favorite to land the #1 pick. |
*shakes fist at Rondo* |
There is plenty of blame to go around this year but not just on Lebron.
First and foremost, the blame is on Magic and Pelinka for a poorly constructed roster and overselling it to everyone. Drafting Lonzo the previous year was also a terrible move when they passed on at 3 players better from that draft.
Lastly, the injuries, poor rotations and lack of chemistry killed this team.
Sure, I get it, Lebron is the big name, but it's not all on him. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| lonzobryant wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | | defense wrote: | Please ask for a trade
He's washed up |
Omg, you are so right. Averaging almost 28, 8 and 8 still, man he's terrible. Talk about starting retirement planning now. |
His 28, 8 and 8 has been useless. We'd be in the same exact spot without him. The roster did the about the same last year and we were 4th in the West at one point in time this year because of our easy schedule at the start. |
I think if the roster had been healthy we’d have made the playoffs anywhere from 5-8 seed. 28 8 and 8 are impressive numbers but get lost in the mess because the rest of the team was beyond the level of suck ass after injuries hit. It’s been embarrassing. If quality shooters were here or if the team was healthy I don’t think Whitlock would have even brought this up because we’d be talking about playoff match ups instead. He wants ratings and comes up with off the wall (bleep) a lot because he knows people will read it.
Really to have made the playoffs LeBron would have needed to score 45+ pts a game throughout the last 20 games of the season to get the team there.
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