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non-player zealot
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| Outspoken wrote: | | Jerry West got a young, full of potential, active big, who can benefit their team in Zu |
Now that's the kind of thing we need to do. We need to find a guy like Zubac.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| non-player zealot wrote: | | Outspoken wrote: | | Jerry West got a young, full of potential, active big, who can benefit their team in Zu |
Now that's the kind of thing we need to do. We need to find a guy like Zubac. |
Indeed, trading Zubac was ridiculous. He had been with the team for while and just when he starts to really contribute, we give him away for nothing. Being on the floor with LeBron helped his game a lot, and he was gaining confidence at both ends of the floor. I can't imagine why he was dealt. Obviously McGee and Chandler don't have much mileage left. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| CabinCreek44 wrote: | | non-player zealot wrote: | | Outspoken wrote: | | Jerry West got a young, full of potential, active big, who can benefit their team in Zu |
Now that's the kind of thing we need to do. We need to find a guy like Zubac. |
Indeed, trading Zubac was ridiculous. He had been with the team for while and just when he starts to really contribute, we give him away for nothing. Being on the floor with LeBron helped his game a lot, and he was gaining confidence at both ends of the floor. I can't imagine why he was dealt. Obviously McGee and Chandler don't have much mileage left. |
I wonder what Magic and Rob were doing when Frank said we're willing to give you guys Muscala and we'll take Zubac and Beasley.... did they high 5 thinking they got an elite shooter? Were they fist bumping under the table because they thought they stole the piece and will push us into the playoffs?
If there was ever a trade that showed ineptitude it was that one |
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pokoy
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| Magic and Rob completely accelerated the youth movement and zoomed past having players in their prime and went straight to old and washed up. This season has completely been joyless after Bron went down on Christmas. |
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Mamba Mentality
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| 2019 wrote: | | CabinCreek44 wrote: | | non-player zealot wrote: | | Outspoken wrote: | | Jerry West got a young, full of potential, active big, who can benefit their team in Zu |
Now that's the kind of thing we need to do. We need to find a guy like Zubac. |
Indeed, trading Zubac was ridiculous. He had been with the team for while and just when he starts to really contribute, we give him away for nothing. Being on the floor with LeBron helped his game a lot, and he was gaining confidence at both ends of the floor. I can't imagine why he was dealt. Obviously McGee and Chandler don't have much mileage left. |
I wonder what Magic and Rob were doing when Frank said we're willing to give you guys Muscala and we'll take Zubac and Beasley.... did they high 5 thinking they got an elite shooter? Were they fist bumping under the table because they thought they stole the piece and will push us into the playoffs? |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| pokoy wrote: | | Magic and Rob completely accelerated the youth movement and zoomed past having players in their prime and went straight to old and washed up. This season has completely been joyless after Bron went down on Christmas. |
The only player in his prime right now is probably Lance  |
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Mamba Mentality
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| Ziggy wrote: | | pokoy wrote: | | Magic and Rob completely accelerated the youth movement and zoomed past having players in their prime and went straight to old and washed up. This season has completely been joyless after Bron went down on Christmas. |
The only player in his prime right now is probably Lance |
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kwase
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| Except winning. What Magic and Rob have done has led to us losing and not making the playoffs. We signed a guy and gave him $154 million and we were better last year. Nobody is making that kind of money on the clippers and they're going to the playoffs. So I think it's safe to say that's Jerry West is doing something different. |
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Mamba Mentality
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| kwase wrote: | | Except winning. What Magic and Rob have done has led to us losing and not making the playoffs. We signed a guy and gave him $154 million and we were better last year. Nobody is making that kind of money on the clippers and they're going to the playoffs. So I think it's safe to say that's Jerry West is doing something different. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| focus wrote: | https://twitter.com/pickuphoop/status/1108732703573188608
There probably would be some differences. |
That is just depressing to watch. |
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| pokoy wrote: | | Magic and Rob completely accelerated the youth movement and zoomed past having players in their prime and went straight to old and washed up. This season has completely been joyless after Bron went down on Christmas. |
The sad thing is our window is closing with Lebron only here for 3 more years if we fail to get any other big name stars. |
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | | focus wrote: | https://twitter.com/pickuphoop/status/1108732703573188608
There probably would be some differences. |
That is just depressing to watch. |
Hits like the truth. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| focus wrote: | https://twitter.com/pickuphoop/status/1108732703573188608
There probably would be some differences. |
Hit me like a ton of bricks how the rebuild/retool is being handled  |
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Japago
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The difference is that the Clippers have a professional front office who knows how to build a modern-day NBA team. They also have an eye for talent from more unconventional places.
The Lakers have a front office with an outdated philosophy, not valuing shooting, defense, and general athleticism. The Lakers signed utter trash after LeBron. It's a worry going forward that they're just going to put together another outdated basketball team.
I think this season could've been a lot better with a better front office. Plenty of guys were available for 1 year contracts or cheap 2 year contracts, some cheap enough that they could've been outbid with a big 1 year contract. |
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Mamba Mentality
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Japago wrote: | The difference is that the Clippers have a professional front office who knows how to build a modern-day NBA team. They also have an eye for talent from more unconventional places.
The Lakers have a front office with an outdated philosophy, not valuing shooting, defense, and general athleticism. The Lakers signed utter trash after LeBron. It's a worry going forward that they're just going to put together another outdated basketball team.
I think this season could've been a lot better with a better front office. Plenty of guys were available for 1 year contracts or cheap 2 year contracts, some cheap enough that they could've been outbid with a big 1 year contract. |
They also have a very good analytics department.
Not sure about the shooting coach, but I bet they have one of those too.
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Pau Gasol's Beard
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| Clippers aren't sucking ass |
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Mamba Mentality
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Clippers have a better record than us without an all-star and trading their two best players away at the break.
And we're the ones with the "best player in the league."
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Japago
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Mamba Mentality wrote: | | Japago wrote: | The difference is that the Clippers have a professional front office who knows how to build a modern-day NBA team. They also have an eye for talent from more unconventional places.
The Lakers have a front office with an outdated philosophy, not valuing shooting, defense, and general athleticism. The Lakers signed utter trash after LeBron. It's a worry going forward that they're just going to put together another outdated basketball team.
I think this season could've been a lot better with a better front office. Plenty of guys were available for 1 year contracts or cheap 2 year contracts, some cheap enough that they could've been outbid with a big 1 year contract. |
They also have a very good analytics department.
Not sure about the shooting coach, but I bet they have one of those too. |
It's really pathetic.
The next front office needs to be a modern one. The Lakers have really been behind with both this front office and the last one in terms of modernizing.
The sad part is I think the Lakers front office just needs to know what they're doing, and let the Lakers' advantage do the rest. If the Lakers were decently run, I honestly think the Lakers would be one of the top destinations for FAs.
The Lakers could just get the best veteran GM and President they can get. Even if those guys haven't been able to get their teams over the hump, I think the Laker advantage could get them there.
The Lakers just aren't giving themselves a chance with how they've been run with these last 2 front offices. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| So the Clippers are letting young talent go for nothing? |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerLogic wrote: | | So the Clippers are letting young talent go for nothing? |
6th seed and have a chance to move up to 4th with Lakers castoffs like Lou Williams, Zubac and Jerry West as consultant. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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1. The Clippers actually built a competent roster.
2. The Clippers actually brought in Jerry West to mentor, monitor and consult a first time GM that wanted to learn and be maximzied.
3. The Clippers are actually in the playoffs.
The Lakers have done the opposite of what the Clippers have been doing, and more what the Knicks have been known for.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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The stark contrast in what the Clippers are doing with that they have and what the Lakers aren't doing with what they have is the biggest indictment on the Lakers' front office.
You put a bunch of good players that fit together under a good coach, and you can have a good basketball team. They're doing this with no stars and no high draft picks. It's a bigger indictment than losing any of the young guys.
The trash roster they put together after they got LeBron is egregious. They're philosophy of not needing shooting and defense is outrageous. I'm scared about the team they put together this off-season, whether they get a star or not. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| focus wrote: | https://twitter.com/pickuphoop/status/1108732703573188608
There probably would be some differences. |
Despite his age Jerry West seems to understand the modern game. Magic is still stuck in the 80s |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| focus wrote: | https://twitter.com/pickuphoop/status/1108732703573188608
There probably would be some differences. |
West the sage.
Magic the hype man. |
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