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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 11:17 pm    Post subject:

matigol wrote:
If You get Kyrie or Kemba via free agency then pick Hunter.
If You can get KD or Kawhi, then pick Garland

....and if You can get AD You trade the pick
it's simple like that for me

Hunter is the safe pick. He'll be a good player that can help a team right at the start. But he hasn't the upside of reddish, garland and maybe even culver or hayes


We dont know who we will sign in the summer but we actually have far more depth at forward than guard. Even if we picked up Kyrie, Garland/Culver would most likely get more minutes than Hunter based on our forward heavy roster.

So if you're basing your pick on who will contribute more and team balance we would have to draft a guard.

currently we have:
G- Ball Hart
F- LBJ Kuzma Ingram Bonga Wagner (some consider Wag a center but he really is a hybrid)
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 12:26 am    Post subject:

actually we play Ingram as a guard for the most time
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 12:30 am    Post subject:

Dunno if this is a good comp but Garland is starting to remind me a bit of Bobby Jackson, a player I absolutely hated, but was a great asset for those early 2k Sacto teams.
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 12:49 am    Post subject:

matigol wrote:
actually we play Ingram as a guard for the most time


We were forced to play him at guard because we have so many forwards but hes not a guard
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:38 am    Post subject:

LAL1947 wrote:
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Garland is a small guard
played 5 games!! actually played 4.1 games (got hurt in game 5 in 3 minutes)
averaged 2.6 assists! All the games were early season where no one really cares and still only 2.6 assists and only 16 pts

I'm not disagreeing with your point about cooling hype/expectations of a very young player who played a small amount of games...

Just want to point he's not awful... and the way you quote stats is very misleading.

Kawhi scored 12 points, had 1.4 STLs, 0.7 BLKs his first year in college... look how that turned out.


you left out his 9 rebounds a game as a small forward. 1.4 stls is great in college!
also he spent 2 years in college.

his career college stats which is out of a 60+ game same is 15, 10, 1.4 stls as a SF.
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:46 am    Post subject:

if we draft Garland hes getting traded

Garland, Ingram, Wagner, Hart + future 1st, + 2nd rounder for AD
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:49 am    Post subject:

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if we draft Garland hes getting traded

Garland, Ingram, Wagner, Hart + future 1st, + 2nd rounder for AD


How would the Pelicans explain to their fan base that they passed up on

BI/Lonzo/Kuzma/Hart/Zubac + picks?

In a vacuum your trade offer is more than reasonable... but they would have to sell that Zo and Kuzma are trash and Garland is the next Kyrie to get away with that deal.
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 7:52 am    Post subject:

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BlackStarMamba wrote:
if we draft Garland hes getting traded

Garland, Ingram, Wagner, Hart + future 1st, + 2nd rounder for AD


How would the Pelicans explain to their fan base that they passed up on

BI/Lonzo/Kuzma/Hart/Zubac + picks?

In a vacuum your trade offer is more than reasonable... but they would have to sell that Zo and Kuzma are trash and Garland is the next Kyrie to get away with that deal.


That’s a competent and fair trade, especially when you see the Kawhi and Butler (Minnesota) trade.

It’s their fault for not taking advantage of Magic’s foolish offer. They can (bleep) off tbh.
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:00 am    Post subject:

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BlackStarMamba wrote:
if we draft Garland hes getting traded

Garland, Ingram, Wagner, Hart + future 1st, + 2nd rounder for AD


How would the Pelicans explain to their fan base that they passed up on

BI/Lonzo/Kuzma/Hart/Zubac + picks?

In a vacuum your trade offer is more than reasonable... but they would have to sell that Zo and Kuzma are trash and Garland is the next Kyrie to get away with that deal.


That’s a competent and fair trade, especially when you see the Kawhi and Butler (Minnesota) trade.

It’s their fault for not taking advantage of Magic’s foolish offer. They can (bleep) off tbh.


Then it's probably not going to happen. Maybe Griffin would do it... but I'm guessing the owner will want at least one of Zo or Kuzma so they don't look like fools for passing it up the first time.

Which then makes it a stupid trade for us. I think it's already a stupid trade because I don't want to trade Garland... but at least I see some logic... but add one of the others and it's drifting back into Godfather offer desperation.
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:38 am    Post subject:

Sentient Meat wrote:
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BlackStarMamba wrote:
if we draft Garland hes getting traded

Garland, Ingram, Wagner, Hart + future 1st, + 2nd rounder for AD


How would the Pelicans explain to their fan base that they passed up on

BI/Lonzo/Kuzma/Hart/Zubac + picks?

In a vacuum your trade offer is more than reasonable... but they would have to sell that Zo and Kuzma are trash and Garland is the next Kyrie to get away with that deal.


That’s a competent and fair trade, especially when you see the Kawhi and Butler (Minnesota) trade.

It’s their fault for not taking advantage of Magic’s foolish offer. They can (bleep) off tbh.


Then it's probably not going to happen. Maybe Griffin would do it... but I'm guessing the owner will want at least one of Zo or Kuzma so they don't look like fools for passing it up the first time.

Which then makes it a stupid trade for us. I think it's already a stupid trade because I don't want to trade Garland... but at least I see some logic... but add one of the others and it's drifting back into Godfather offer desperation.


for pelicans you get young players on rookie deals
dealing for Zo + Kuz when they are near contract extensions in 1-2 years, they may walk and you have nothing

ZO (Lavar), Kuz (he's hollywood) aint likely going to stay long term.
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:41 am    Post subject:

I like being informed

but can someone on the Garland fanbase tell me what makes him so great? or his potential?

His stats don't amaze me,
He wasn't highly recruited
His size doesn't amaze me
Hes not that dead eye of shooter like steph, or even trae young
His speed doesn't amaze me

im trying to get there and maybe there is something, a video, I need to see
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:04 am    Post subject:

panamaniac wrote:
Dunno if this is a good comp but Garland is starting to remind me a bit of Bobby Jackson, a player I absolutely hated, but was a great asset for those early 2k Sacto teams.

Fun comp. You've sent me down a Bobby Jackson YouTube hole.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 5:49 am    Post subject:

LeBron James & Lakers Coach Seen With NBA Draft Target Darius Garland
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After the NBA world took notice of the fact that the former Vanderbilt guard was signed with Klutch Sports, it immediately created a connection to LeBron James.
But the Lakers-Garland connection picked up steam when he was spotted with LeBron and Lakers assistant coach Miles Simon at a basketball game for James’ son, Bronny.


https://heavy.com/sports/2019/05/lakers-lebron-james-darius-garland-nba-draft-news/
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 6:09 am    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
LeBron James & Lakers Coach Seen With NBA Draft Target Darius Garland
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After the NBA world took notice of the fact that the former Vanderbilt guard was signed with Klutch Sports, it immediately created a connection to LeBron James.
But the Lakers-Garland connection picked up steam when he was spotted with LeBron and Lakers assistant coach Miles Simon at a basketball game for James’ son, Bronny.


https://heavy.com/sports/2019/05/lakers-lebron-james-darius-garland-nba-draft-news/


LeBron: Darius, let me tell you about New Orleans, the beignets, the music...
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 6:50 am    Post subject:

The Lakers will win if they can get Lebron and Ball some shooters.
But no more all playmakers but no shooters team.

Garland or Hunter can shoot and are safe bets no matter what.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 7:00 am    Post subject:

Garland signing with Klutch makes it all but a given we draft him.
Can't see him being passed up - unless he goes higher.

Lots of people like him in this draft, even the Knicks, have interest to take him at 3. That's how much of a talent he is. I read his likely NBA projection is Mo Williams, and maybe more. That's a good player in today's NBA. Not a sure all-star, but a damn good useful player.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:10 am    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
Garland signing with Klutch makes it all but a given we draft him.
Can't see him being passed up - unless he goes higher.

Lots of people like him in this draft, even the Knicks, have interest to take him at 3. That's how much of a talent he is. I read his likely NBA projection is Mo Williams, and maybe more. That's a good player in today's NBA. Not a sure all-star, but a damn good useful player.


The Lakers will make their pick based on workouts, individual and team, like they have in the past. Way too premature to think we have our mind made up. There’s a report today that the Buss brothers along with others flew to see Culver’s NBA workout, who is now being considered by the Knicks at 3.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:00 pm    Post subject:

BlackStarMamba wrote:
if we draft Garland hes getting traded

Garland, Ingram, Wagner, Hart + future 1st, + 2nd rounder for AD

the salary dont match
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 4:16 am    Post subject:

laker50 wrote:
The Lakers will win if they can get Lebron and Ball some shooters.
But no more all playmakers but no shooters team.

Garland or Hunter can shoot and are safe bets no matter what.



Get some shooters and D in the lineup.

Zo
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:06 am    Post subject:

My pick is Garland but Bol Bol is intriguing. But he’s that type that has so much potential but at the same time can fail because of injury.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:12 am    Post subject:

laker50 wrote:
The Lakers will win if they can get Lebron and Ball some shooters.
But no more all playmakers but no shooters team.

Garland or Hunter can shoot and are safe bets no matter what.



Of course, it would be helpful if Ball himself became a shooter.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:29 am    Post subject:

Garland appears to be an undersized SG. That works great with Lebron on the team since we learned last year after all these years, he isn't changing who he is. Can Lonzo guard SG? I don't recall him doing it that much last year so that remains to be seen. If Kyrie comes and they keep the pick, Garland wouldn't make any sense.

I wouldn't read much into LBJ spending time with Garland as he may have done it as a favor to his friends at Klutch. Garland, AD, LBJ, KCP would be funny but I doubt you get AD without the pick and not sure KCP is staying around. Any Klutch centers out there? Could be an all Klutch starting lineup.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:42 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
The excuse making for Reddish is epic.

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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:43 am    Post subject:

BlackStarMamba wrote:
I like being informed

but can someone on the Garland fanbase tell me what makes him so great? or his potential?

His stats don't amaze me,
He wasn't highly recruited
His size doesn't amaze me
Hes not that dead eye of shooter like steph, or even trae young
His speed doesn't amaze me

im trying to get there and maybe there is something, a video, I need to see

Sorry, there is no helping you after reading that.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:54 am    Post subject:

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Garland appears to be an undersized SG. That works great with Lebron on the team since we learned last year after all these years, he isn't changing who he is. Can Lonzo guard SG? I don't recall him doing it that much last year so that remains to be seen. If Kyrie comes and they keep the pick, Garland wouldn't make any sense.

I wouldn't read much into LBJ spending time with Garland as he may have done it as a favor to his friends at Klutch. Garland, AD, LBJ, KCP would be funny but I doubt you get AD without the pick and not sure KCP is staying around. Any Klutch centers out there? Could be an all Klutch starting lineup.


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