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epak
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| deal wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | | Maybe 3rd time is the charm? Took the 76ers drafting 3 centers in Noel and Okafor, before landing Embiid. |
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So Embiid was drafted before Okafor but was injured.
Zo would be drafted before this year's pick and has been injured.
Is that what you guys mean? Zo is the PG of the future but we need to draft one more PG to make it happen?
That's some crazy voodoo stuff you guys are into. |
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| LakersForever123 wrote: | | Reports are saying Chicago Bulls and Phoenix are interested in Lonzo Ball and would trade the pick if Lakers are interested. |
I'd obviously listen.
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Runway8
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| They were right with Dlo and right with Zo. Garland comes and isn't a hall of fame performer in his rookie year and you'll be back saying we still looking for pg of the future. You guys wanna skip development, and give up on picks so damn easy. Having said that, Zo is versatile and can play with Darius. Stop labeling them point guards, call them what Mitch used to say, ball handling guards. Whoever is near ball gets it and go. |
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LAL1947
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| Fortysixn2 wrote: | | like the Sac Kings with nothing to show for it. |
Ironically enough, considering the thread title at least... they have a great long-term PG in Fox. 
PS: I'm happy with Zo, not sure how long I'll stay happy if he doesn't fix his shot tho! |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | Covington is a better player than Kuzma.
It's not close. |
Kuz is still young...Covington is a career 13 ppg scorer better defender ....I see a lot more up side in Kuz while Covington is who he is. My opinion. |
Covington is basically a wing version of Brandon Clarke with all of the stock rates to prove it.
That kind of defense at wing is so incredibly valuable. |
Ill trade 2 Kuzmas for a Covington all day every day
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:39 am Post subject: |
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| Runway8 wrote: | | Didn't realize Zion hasn't hired agent. He could sit out, or make a power play to force Pelicans to trade pick to NY. |
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BigGameHames
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | LakersForever123 wrote: | | Reports are saying Chicago Bulls and Phoenix are interested in Lonzo Ball and would trade the pick if Lakers are interested. |
Lakers would be stupid to trade Ball. With that being said it wouldn't surprise me if they did |
are you being serious? an injury-prone/slow recovering PG who CAN'T SHOOT for his life. i don't care how good a passer he is, if you can't shoot in this league today and you can't stay on the court, then your value isn't that good. i seriously doubt chicago and phx will trade their lotto pick for Zo straight up. |
At least we got a few months without asinine Zo hate. I was naive for expecting it to last longer than that  |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| audioaxes wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | Covington is a better player than Kuzma.
It's not close. |
Kuz is still young...Covington is a career 13 ppg scorer better defender ....I see a lot more up side in Kuz while Covington is who he is. My opinion. |
Covington is basically a wing version of Brandon Clarke with all of the stock rates to prove it.
That kind of defense at wing is so incredibly valuable. |
Ill trade 2 Kuzmas for a Covington all day every day |
But the original poster wanted to also include cap space and the #4 pick too.
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | LakersForever123 wrote: | | Reports are saying Chicago Bulls and Phoenix are interested in Lonzo Ball and would trade the pick if Lakers are interested. |
Lakers would be stupid to trade Ball. With that being said it wouldn't surprise me if they did |
are you being serious? an injury-prone/slow recovering PG who CAN'T SHOOT for his life. i don't care how good a passer he is, if you can't shoot in this league today and you can't stay on the court, then your value isn't that good. i seriously doubt chicago and phx will trade their lotto pick for Zo straight up. |
Good thing GS didn't give up on Curry |
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| Dlo is an all star, they weren't wrong. It takes time. You trade Lonzo to draft another rookie PG, ya'll gonna still be whining because development doesn't happen over night. |
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noahp45
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Lakers Should draft
CULVER OR WHITE |
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CamReddish
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Why can't just go in the draft thread? Don't like 2 places to talk about the same thing.
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Also haven’t found a center either.
Sad that two of those picks are contributing on their teams. But at least they still have “cap space “ . He’s damn good! |
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LakersRGolden
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| Zo is elite at defense and pushing the pace. When Zo's shot becomes trustworthy, all you need is a 2 guard that can run a 1/2 court offense next to him - Like Dlo does for the Nets. |
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| Garland is legit. Would love to see him in LA. |
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noahp45
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| #StayInYoLane wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | Garland is another Fultz in my OPINION, I wouldn't draft him. |
What makes you say that? |
Overhyped guy that will get drafted higher then what he rates.
Dude played 5 games last year, no I take that back 4 games.....wow |
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Mike@LG
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| LakersMD wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | LakersMD wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | LAL1947 wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | This is for Darius Garland:
Notes: Measured 5'11.75 without shoes, 6'0.5 with shoes, 135 lbs, with a 6'1 wingspan and 7'8 standing reach at the 2014 USA Junior National Team Mini Camp
They say he's 6'3 now...but how much longer is his wingspan? If we keep this pick the guy has to be the real deal. The more I look the more I like Hunter (motor) maybe Culver or even the big man from Texas. 6'11 with a 7'4 wingspan. |
Same height as Curry. +2 wingspan as Curry at 6'5" |
Since we comparing his weight/wingspan to Curry, how do their college careers and stats compare? |
They don't really, because Curry had 3 years, while Garland really had just 4 games and 5 minutes into his 5th game.
I will say their archetypes and trajectories are very similar in terms of development. |
Can you comment of Garland’s defense? That’s the one thing really holding me back on him. The footage looks depressing. |
Why? They're all bad defenders. |
Who is “they?” |
Curry, Dame, Murray, etc.
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| noahp45 wrote: | | #StayInYoLane wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | Garland is another Fultz in my OPINION, I wouldn't draft him. |
What makes you say that? |
Overhyped guy that will get drafted higher then what he rates.
Dude played 5 games last year, no I take that back 4 games.....wow |
Methinks you didn't watch. But Ok.
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| epak wrote: | | deal wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | | Maybe 3rd time is the charm? Took the 76ers drafting 3 centers in Noel and Okafor, before landing Embiid. |
True.. |
So Embiid was drafted before Okafor but was injured.
Zo would be drafted before this year's pick and has been injured.
Is that what you guys mean? Zo is the PG of the future but we need to draft one more PG to make it happen?
That's some crazy voodoo stuff you guys are into. |
yeah, i want some of what you'all are smokin!
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noahp45
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| Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | #StayInYoLane wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | Garland is another Fultz in my OPINION, I wouldn't draft him. |
What makes you say that? |
Overhyped guy that will get drafted higher then what he rates.
Dude played 5 games last year, no I take that back 4 games.....wow |
Methinks you didn't watch. But Ok. |
Watch Fultz play or Garland play? |
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Runway8
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| noahp45 wrote: | | Garland is another Fultz in my OPINION, I wouldn't draft him. |
Pretty damn difficult to be another Fultz. You would need mental issues, and shooting mechanics issue. I think it'll be awhile before you see something as bizarre as that again. Someone who is consensus #1, then have total break down in the NBA. |
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| We are not. Zo is the PG. Garland would be the scoring guard |
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| Runway8 wrote: | | Didn't realize Zion hasn't hired agent. He could sit out, or make a power play to force Pelicans to trade pick to NY. |
Too much shoe $$ on the line to risk sitting out a year. |
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yinoma2001
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| noahp45 wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | #StayInYoLane wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | Garland is another Fultz in my OPINION, I wouldn't draft him. |
What makes you say that? |
Overhyped guy that will get drafted higher then what he rates.
Dude played 5 games last year, no I take that back 4 games.....wow |
Methinks you didn't watch. But Ok. |
Watch Fultz play or Garland play? |
But you said Garland only played 4 games. So what are you basing this on?
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noahp45
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| Runway8 wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | Garland is another Fultz in my OPINION, I wouldn't draft him. |
Pretty damn difficult to be another Fultz. You would need mental issues, and shooting mechanics issue. I think it'll be awhile before you see something as bizarre as that again. Someone who is consensus #1, then have total break down in the NBA. |
I didn't mean play like fultz I meant over hyped like fultz was.
Fultz was considered a top prospect, but yet the only team his team beat were sub par team's. He had great numbers but that was in losing games. If you are a star you should atleast give your team good quality wins atleast 2 times. He got none
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