If his Damm rotation's weren't so god Damm awful, then sure
But he has cost us so many games because of that reason alone.
He's not a terrible coach but my God Idk what goes through his head with those rotation's _________________
Only should replace him if we get a clear upgrade. That said, the clear upgrade is likely a second star player, who will make whoever the coach is, seem better. Luke with Lebron and PG13 is a 55 win team and a candidate for coach of the year.
Only should replace him if we get a clear upgrade. That said, the clear upgrade is likely a second star player, who will make whoever the coach is, seem better. Luke with Lebron and PG13 is a 55 win team and a candidate for coach of the year.
I get what you're saying, but Ty Lue is an upgrade to Luke. There are many upgrades to Luke, but we're talking bout degrees of improvement here. We need a fresh outlook starting asap because we could potentially be facing a midseason firing of Luke for a lackluster start with a better roster OR another loss of whatever team is here. I think all these cats are hip to his jibe. He's gonna be returning from a hideous season even with a superstar on the team. It's foolish to be lax with LeBrawn James, man. Superstar or not, he seems to be the type of player who raises or lowers himself to the coach's expectations of him. I highly doubt he has any respect for Luke. If he is a coach killer in this case, he should be lauded for it. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
I'm not really sure what his strength is, his teams have chemistry problems and our offense is routinely awful. I guess defense?
But yeah, if the choices are having a good associate head coach and not Brian Shaw or letting Magic hire another coach, I'm down with keeping Luke. But that's kind of unfair because in one scenario we presuppose having a "quality" associate head coach, and in the other Magic can choose a terrible coach or a quality one.
I mean realistically, if Luke fires Shaw what are the odds his next associate HC isn't also garbage? I'd guess better than the odds of Magic making a good hire, but I still doubt those odds are very high.
Voted to keep Luke if he hires some top assistants.
Luke can be a good coach, but sometimes he hires his buddies. That may be his downfall.
But can't see the difference between Luke, Kidd, and Lue on HC level.
They key would be who they hire as assistants.
The biggest problem is the FO who gives away assets and gambles on FA to win. This is a strategy based on luck.
Lebron is on his last years. The FO shouldn't gamble everything on this.
Just get the best team possible and go from there.
But no more of that save salary cap next year to get a max free agent.
You would have better odds in Vegas.
Ty Lue or Luke whos more likely to get the best out of Lebron?
This is the dilemma. Lue probably knows how to utilise Lebron better than Luke but is this best for the team? I would even argue that if we sign KD, Lebron will become our 2nd option on offense. It will be wrong if Lue play KD like Irving’s role.
I'm calling it now, Luke will be our coach to start the 19-20 season. Depending on how he does the first month or so will determine whether he's fired or not.
I'm calling it now, Luke will be our coach to start the 19-20 season. Depending on how he does the first month or so will determine whether he's fired or not.
Talk about instability then for a lame duck coach.
Either the team stands by him, extends him, or they let him go.
None of this "we'll see how you do in your first month" nonsense. That's what happened with Mike Brown. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:02 am Post subject:
socalsp3 wrote:
Ty Lue or Luke whos more likely to get the best out of Lebron?
Lue or Luke don’t matter, it is all on Lebron. He mailed it in this season, got his counting stats to boost his legacy and was otherwise disconnected. That is a Lebron problem, not a Luke problem. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
I think Magic (and James) created this very off-balance team with mercurial personalities to purposely make it difficult and challenging for Walton. _________________ A creative scorer, a wing defender, and a shooter.
Ty Lue or Luke whos more likely to get the best out of Lebron?
Are you joking???
Lebron won a title with Lue and went to 3 straight finals with him.
Luke couldn't even run a scheme that fit Lebron and that ended up getting him injured. That stupid ass pace Luke was trying to implement because he lacks X&O knowledge to run a real scheme cost us the season. He ran the guys ragged especially Lebron. Luke needed to be fired after the first month of the season. 3 years now and he's not improved as a coach at all
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If he's fired, history has proven that it's only a matter of time before fans realize the grass isn't greener with the next coach. They'll soon be calling for his head and begging for another.
During the last championship run, Fisher had a stretch where he was playing bad in the playoffs and Phil stuck with him because played guys he trusted. Same happened when Luke played and lost against Boston while Trevor was glued to the bench. Fans complained, but no other coach would have survived without Phil's history.
The popular thing to do now days is clamor for a new coach like Miami's, Boston's, the Warriors, Clippers, or Houston's (oh...we had him already).
Without the right product even Phil, Rudy, the Mike Brothers, etc, won't win.
I'm calling it now, Luke will be our coach to start the 19-20 season. Depending on how he does the first month or so will determine whether he's fired or not.
Talk about instability then for a lame duck coach.
Either the team stands by him, extends him, or they let him go.
None of this "we'll see how you do in your first month" nonsense. That's what happened with Mike Brown.
I think that's what will realistically happen because prior to the injuries we had a winning record this past year. I'm sure he'll be on a short leash if he stays and the second things go wrong he'll be the first one out.
I'm calling it now, Luke will be our coach to start the 19-20 season. Depending on how he does the first month or so will determine whether he's fired or not.
Talk about instability then for a lame duck coach.
Either the team stands by him, extends him, or they let him go.
None of this "we'll see how you do in your first month" nonsense. That's what happened with Mike Brown.
I think that's what will realistically happen because prior to the injuries we had a winning record this past year. I'm sure he'll be on a short leash if he stays and the second things go wrong he'll be the first one out.
Why though?
He'd be a lame duck coach on a month to month leash? Not good. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:51 pm Post subject:
I’d be ok with keeping Luke if we hire Ty Lue as his #1 assist to draw up the offensive plays and to be his Lebron whisperer. It might have us save face as well not turining the keys over to Lebron by installing his coach as THE head coach.
It may save ol’ Ty and panic attack or two not having to be the man. _________________ Darvin
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:05 am Post subject:
hydrohead wrote:
I’d be ok with keeping Luke if we hire Ty Lue as his #1 assist to draw up the offensive plays and to be his Lebron whisperer. It might have us save face as well not turining the keys over to Lebron by installing his coach as THE head coach.
It may save ol’ Ty and panic attack or two not having to be the man.
Lebron wouldn't respect or listen to anything Luke said if that happened. It would be a circus for the media.
Actually as the seasons gone on, I'm more inclined to keep Luke, assuming he has the backing of the players.
And has been noted, I would try and beef up his coaching staff.
It's not like Luke didn't do some bone headed coaching, he did, but if I think of the biggest fault in the season it was the injury, waaaaay to many key players lost time, there was just no rhythm, a close second is the FO.
I'd rather keep Luke and put pressure on the FO to do their job, give Luke another year and see how he does with a better caliber team, THEN if it doesn't work out you move on
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