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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:31 pm    Post subject:

NBA coaching is a bell curve.
Most people fall in the middle (close to Luke). If people are expecting a significant coaching upgrade. People are gonna be disappointed.
Unless we literally steal a head coach from another team.
And I'm not sure what the rules are on coaches under contract.
Bard probably does.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:29 pm    Post subject:

Which coaches can be on the market if they lose in the 1st round? Brett Brown? Billy Donovan?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:48 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
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I like Monty the most.... he’s proven he can coach and he has already shown he’s a great communicator.

This isn’t some Luke level experience


When did he do that? After watching him in NO. A Luke Walton level coach is what I'm expecting if he gets the job. Hopefully with a better staff though.


https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/willimo01c.html


That's actually the page I looked at before posting. He's a sub .500 coach. Not saying he's bad. But I'd expect similar results if Luke was coaching those rosters. Or Alvin Gentry for example. They all look like a similar level of coach to me.


The veto hurt Monty and New Orleans more than it directly hurt us. Eric Gordon was chronically injured early in his career and Aminu was a late bloomer in this league. Kaman and Jarrett Jack were the two leading scorers in 2012. The following two seasons were injury plagued, Greivis Vasquez and Ryan Anderson led the team in total points AD's rookie year and Brian Roberts started at point for half of 2014.

He makes the playoffs at #8 in AD's third year, and the Pelicans fire him after a 45-win season that had its share of injuries. Game 3, Warriors overcame a 20 point 4th quarter deficit to win and take a 3-0 lead. Jrue Holiday wasn't healthy for the playoffs. AD was reportedly upset with the move.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:06 am    Post subject:

They are going to make the mistake to hire someone just because he is LBJ buddy. Just hire the best coach available.
LBJ is 35 years old. They have to stop making his wishes and start to think about the Lakers organization. He is just one of the players for gods sake.
Hire the best guy, not LBJ's friend.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:11 am    Post subject:

There are talented assistant coaches out there so why we go after Howard? Not because his talent but connections to Pelinka and Lebron. Sadly we won't able to hire best available coach due to nepotism running with the franchise.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:27 am    Post subject:

why not hire a VP before making this hire? this franchise is in shambles
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:35 am    Post subject:

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why not hire a VP before making this hire? this franchise is in shambles


Yes complete mess. Miss times with Dr. Buss.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:53 am    Post subject:

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why not hire a VP before making this hire? this franchise is in shambles


Because Pelinka is our de facto PoBO
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:34 am    Post subject:

blackmamba08 wrote:
They are going to make the mistake to hire someone just because he is LBJ buddy. Just hire the best coach available.
LBJ is 35 years old. They have to stop making his wishes and start to think about the Lakers organization. He is just one of the players for gods sake.
Hire the best guy, not LBJ's friend.


Bashing the new coach before he (or she) is even hired. That's taking it to the next level.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:38 am    Post subject:

I think Monty is an excellent player's coach. Players absolutely respect him. However, I cannot speak to his Xs and Os acumen. Is that what this team needs, a coach who can command the respect of the team but might not be the top Xs and Os tactician? Maybe he would be confident enough to put together a top notch staff.

Lue, well, he earned his championship ring with the Cavs. To say that he didn't earn it is just disingenuous. He will likely go down as the only coach to have taken down the mighty Warriors at its peak. You want to blame the Dray suspension and Bogut's injury? OK, how about not counting Round 1 (Kyrie and Love injured) and Round 3 (they added KD)?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:39 am    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
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why not hire a VP before making this hire? this franchise is in shambles


Because Pelinka is our de facto PoBO

Pelinka is the GM. Most teams don’t even have a president of basketball operations.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:44 am    Post subject:

Practice wrote:
danzag wrote:
Nnamdi21 wrote:
why not hire a VP before making this hire? this franchise is in shambles


Because Pelinka is our de facto PoBO

Pelinka is the GM. Most teams don’t even have a president of basketball operations.


The point is that RP is very clearly going to remain as our head of b-ball ops, whatever his actual title ends up being.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:03 am    Post subject:

Practice wrote:
danzag wrote:
Nnamdi21 wrote:
why not hire a VP before making this hire? this franchise is in shambles


Because Pelinka is our de facto PoBO

Pelinka is the GM. Most teams don’t even have a president of basketball operations.


Teams without PoBO usually have an owner or a President involved with basketball decisions, which is not our case. We need someone to draw the strategies, look the big picture and be present in major movements. GMs are the ones responsible for making those strategies happen and run daily businesses.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:16 am    Post subject:

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why not hire a VP before making this hire? this franchise is in shambles

Have all of our youth. Draft pick . Money. A serviceable bron. Most likely upgrade at coach. A gm who seems determined to prove himself and guy lifting org into 21st century
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:51 am    Post subject:

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I think it is obvious that Lebron wants a black coach. I'm not even trying to be racist, I am part black. The only black coach he ever had a problem with was M. Brown. And even he put up with Browns poor coaching style for years. If we are going to hire any white or non black coach it would have to be someone like coach K probably, and even that will eventually be a problem imo. I guess I don't have a problem with it, but if we could of got someone like a Malone right now it would be stupid not to hire him.

But yeah, if you dont see this you are blind.

This has never crossed my mind but you maybe right.


Its even deeper then that, he wants a black gm as well. Before he decided to leave the Cavs they were trying to hire Chauncey Billups? When they realized he was leaving is when they hired the kid. In Lebron's defense I think it is he wants someone who he can relate to. It just so happens that more black people have played the game, and I think that is part of it too.

Its kind of amazing to see a player wield this kind of power, if anything.

And who is going to question Pat Riley?

Forthe record I do think Lebron and Griffin were good.

I think it would of been great for us to hire Griffin. But I think he looks at this dumpster fire and says no. Smart man.



LOL you are making some major assumptions.

LeBron's greatest run came with Spo. He had his initial issues with Spo-- the man he wanted to be coach by was Pat Riley.

In Cleveland, the reason why he "killed" David Blatt is because he was inexperienced, had real incompotent coaching moments when the Cavs were possibly the best team in the NBA, nor did he know how to really navigate an NBA locker room.

Ty Lue got the job because the Cavs were already high on him. Lue almost had the head coaching job there when they decided to opt for David Blatt. Somehow they convinced Lue to stay on as an assistant.


And then you continue talking out of your rear by saying LeBron chose Chauncy Billups. LeBron wasn't involving himself in the Cavs GM search because he pretty much already was leaning towards leaving for LA the next summer. In fact, Chauncy decided not to take the job because he caught wind that Kyrie wanted out and he caught wind that LeBron would likely be leaving as well.


Please stop spreading your own imagined BS.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:07 am    Post subject:

I don't want any more ex Cavs coaches, lol.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:10 am    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
kikanga wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Woj says we're going to Philly to interview Monty:

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1117506692563046400

Who exactly is "Lakers management" besides Pelinka?


Still think we get Lue. Lebron will choose our next coach.


Then wouldn't it be Mark Jackson?


Are they also placing a pulpit in the training facility?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:13 am    Post subject:

Buck32 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
kikanga wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Woj says we're going to Philly to interview Monty:

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1117506692563046400

Who exactly is "Lakers management" besides Pelinka?


Still think we get Lue. Lebron will choose our next coach.


Then wouldn't it be Mark Jackson?


Are they also placing a pulpit in the training facility?



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:43 am    Post subject:

BRANDON INGRAM 14 wrote:
Buck32 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
kikanga wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Woj says we're going to Philly to interview Monty:

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1117506692563046400

Who exactly is "Lakers management" besides Pelinka?


Still think we get Lue. Lebron will choose our next coach.


Then wouldn't it be Mark Jackson?


Are they also placing a pulpit in the training facility?




Well, a pulpit with a stripper's pole on it?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:56 pm    Post subject:

I want John Stockton to be our coach....

But, this will never happen.... He should be at least an assistant coach in the NBA
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:43 pm    Post subject:

After listening to the Woj podcast when he interviewed Monty Williams, Im hoping we hire him. Thoughtful, eloquent, humble, and has a hell of a pedigree.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:50 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
BRANDON INGRAM 14 wrote:
Buck32 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
kikanga wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Woj says we're going to Philly to interview Monty:

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1117506692563046400

Who exactly is "Lakers management" besides Pelinka?


Still think we get Lue. Lebron will choose our next coach.


Then wouldn't it be Mark Jackson?


Are they also placing a pulpit in the training facility?




Well, a pulpit with a stripper's pole on it?


Also says he’s the leading candidate. this pleases me.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:16 pm    Post subject:

hydrohead wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
BRANDON INGRAM 14 wrote:
Buck32 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
kikanga wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Woj says we're going to Philly to interview Monty:

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1117506692563046400

Who exactly is "Lakers management" besides Pelinka?


Still think we get Lue. Lebron will choose our next coach.


Then wouldn't it be Mark Jackson?


Are they also placing a pulpit in the training facility?




Well, a pulpit with a stripper's pole on it?


Also says he’s the leading candidate. this pleases me.


Who said who's the leading candidate?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:20 pm    Post subject:

lounger wrote:
hydrohead wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
BRANDON INGRAM 14 wrote:
Buck32 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
kikanga wrote:
The Lebrons wrote:
Woj says we're going to Philly to interview Monty:

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1117506692563046400

Who exactly is "Lakers management" besides Pelinka?


Still think we get Lue. Lebron will choose our next coach.


Then wouldn't it be Mark Jackson?


Are they also placing a pulpit in the training facility?




Well, a pulpit with a stripper's pole on it?


Also says he’s the leading candidate. this pleases me.


Who said who's the leading candidate?

woj says monty is the leading candidate.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:27 pm    Post subject:

hydrohead wrote:
lounger wrote:


Who said who's the leading candidate?

woj says monty is the leading candidate.


Thanks mate!
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