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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:24 pm    Post subject:

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It’s pretty messed up how a majority of the comments about this are either jokes or people calling her a liar because the guy was an athlete.
Innocent until proven guilty we don’t know what happened. Who goes to a Hotel to work on a paper? Nothing good ever happens late night in a hotel room for married people.


Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean the accuser is automatically a liar. What I don't get is people keep saying stuff like innocent until proven guilty or lets wait for the facts before condemning Luke. That is obviously perfectly reasonable the problem is the same people are then calling her a liar or insinuating random things to make her look like a liar when obviously we know nothing about what happened if anything happened at all. Luke hasn't even responded.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:28 pm    Post subject:

Glad it's not our problem now. We got more pressing matters to resolve.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:29 pm    Post subject:

Practice wrote:
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It’s pretty messed up how a majority of the comments about this are either jokes or people calling her a liar because the guy was an athlete.
Innocent until proven guilty we don’t know what happened. Who goes to a Hotel to work on a paper? Nothing good ever happens late night in a hotel room for married people.

There’s a difference between innocent until proven guilty and saying from the jump that the accuser is lying.


If you assume innocence until proven guilty then you are assuming she's either lying or misremembering the events until proven otherwise.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:34 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:37 pm    Post subject:

Ay yi yi. Threads like this are why I credit LG with helping me figure out my undergrad degree.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:39 pm    Post subject:

Straight up money grab, yeah let’s wait several years until reporting it lol, she just remembered to report him? Times are tough, and where’s the evidence? Nothing
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:51 pm    Post subject:

Yes, because late night business meeting in hotel rooms are normal. Especially between a man and a woman....

I hope the allegations aren't true, and also not saying that behavior is ok, but you have to be pretty dumb to go to a man's room and not think he might try something.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:51 pm    Post subject:

LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWD
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:54 pm    Post subject:

blah blah blah money grab blah blah rape never happens blah blah not all men blah blah

edit: blah blah bad people on both sides blah blah


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:59 pm    Post subject:

Wrong forum. This thread belongs in General Basketball Discussions.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:03 pm    Post subject:

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Straight up money grab, yeah let’s wait several years until reporting it lol, she just remembered to report him? Times are tough, and where’s the evidence? Nothing


Evidence???

Didn’t you read the article, he hugged her, what a waste of a man
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:05 pm    Post subject:

Man, Luke Walton has been through more drama this year than Mary J. I would hate for this to be true.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:38 pm    Post subject:

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This explains a lot. She like just vanished.

Luke’s career is over if this is true. What a dirt bag


Yes she did. And I remember doing some lightweight looking up on Twitter/online to see where she went. And anytime I found anything about her it was clear that something happened but the information was vague and they couldn’t really say anything about the situation.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:43 pm    Post subject:

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Yes she did. And I remember doing some lightweight looking up on Twitter/online to see where she went. And anytime I found anything about her it was clear that something happened but the information was vague and they couldn’t really say anything about the situation.



On some sites, it appears she left due to health-related issue:

"Her brave decision to leave her broadcasting career so she could put her health first."

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:47 pm    Post subject:

https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-luke-walton-sexual-assault-lawsuit-lakers-kings-20190422-story.html
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:48 pm    Post subject:

She suffers from fibromyalgia. This maybe the misdiagnosis mentioned here that was eventually found to be EBV

Lots of male chauvinists here. Wow! I remember the same childish mentality when lots of people were calling DLO a snitch back in the day.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:50 pm    Post subject:

This not coming out until right after the ties with the lakers are cut sure is coincidental
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:53 pm    Post subject:

I have to admit this is very hard to believe but anything is possible. The vast majority of sexual assault allegations are not made up. Some are, but it's a small percentage. Late disclosure doesn't mean anything in terms of her credibility. It's very normal for victims to disclose years later. She also may not have felt comfortable disclosing while he was still the coach of the Lakers for any number of reasons. The timing also has no relevance on her credibility.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:02 pm    Post subject:

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This not coming out until right after the ties with the lakers are cut sure is coincidental


Sure is. Sure the hell is.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:03 pm    Post subject:

Imagine the firestorm if he was still in la. He should’ve been fired at asb
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:03 pm    Post subject:

Practice wrote:
https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-luke-walton-sexual-assault-lawsuit-lakers-kings-20190422-story.html


can you cut and paste the story versus the link?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:10 pm    Post subject:

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https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-luke-walton-sexual-assault-lawsuit-lakers-kings-20190422-story.html


can you cut and paste the story versus the link?




Tania Ganguli, LA Times wrote:
Former Lakers coach Luke Walton has been accused of sexual assault by former Spectrum SportsNet host Kelli Tennant.

In a lawsuit filed Monday in Los Angeles County Superior Court, Tennant, a former USC volleyball player, alleges that Walton assaulted her at the Casa Del Mar Hotel in Santa Monica while he was an assistant coach with the Golden State Warriors.

No date was given for the alleged assault, but the suit says it happened after the publication of a book written by Tennant, for which Walton wrote a foreword. The book was published in 2014.

Walton was a mentor to Tennant, the lawsuit says, and she had known his wife for years because both were competitive volleyball players in college. She drove to the hotel to give him a copy of the book. He invited her to his room so as not to be in the public eye, according to the suit.

The lawsuit, which was examined by the Los Angeles Times, alleges that Walton suddenly “pinned Ms. Tennant on the bed, placing his hips and legs over her body.” He then “began forcing kisses on her neck, face and chest.” The suit said she yelled for him to stop and tried to free herself as Walton groped her breasts and groin area. Eventually, the suit said, Walton relented.

“She was afraid she was about to be raped,” the suit stated.

Walton played for the Lakers from 2003 to 2012. After retiring as a player, Walton dabbled in broadcasting, and appeared on Spectrum SportsNet. He and Tennant appeared together on the network.

He then went into coaching and was on the Warriors’ staff from 2014-16, when the Lakers hired him to be their head coach. Walton guided the Lakers for three seasons, before he and the team mutually parted ways on April 12. He became the head coach of the Sacramento Kings days later.

Neither Walton nor Spectrum SportsNet responded to requests for comment.

“We are aware of the report and are gathering additional information,” the Kings said in a statement. “We have no further comment at this time.”
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The Lakers released a statement on Monday evening noting that the alleged incident occurred before they hired him.

“At no time before or during his employment here was this allegation reported to the Lakers,” the team’s statement read. “If it had been, we would have immediately commenced an investigation and notified the NBA. Since Luke Walton is now under contract to another team, we will have no further comment.”

The Warriors were also caught off guard, they said.

“We became aware of the alleged incident and story this evening and are in the process of seeking more information,” a statement from the Warriors read. “We’ll have no further comment at this time.”

Attorney Garo Mardirossian, who represents Tennant, said he would not disclose further information about her allegations until a news conference. He declined to disclose whether she reported the alleged sexual assault to police.

The lawsuit notes that while Tennant did not make the allegations public until now, she had told others about the alleged assault.

Tennant continued to work for Spectrum SportsNet, the Lakers’ regional television partner, and interacted with Walton once he became the head coach of the Lakers in the spring of 2016.

The lawsuit discusses a second incident that it says made Tennant uncomfortable. On May 24, 2017, Walton and Lakers owner Jeanie Buss were honored by a charity and Tennant was speaking at the event. The lawsuit says Walton made lewd noises and looked at her suggestively before hugging her in an unwanted way. That incident was included in the lawsuit as an example of what the suit called a “pattern of mistreatment.”

Not long after that, Tennant stopped working at Spectrum SportsNet. She has not resumed her television career.

Times staff writer Richard Winton contributed to this report.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:12 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
Practice wrote:
Jellojigglin wrote:
Practice wrote:
It’s pretty messed up how a majority of the comments about this are either jokes or people calling her a liar because the guy was an athlete.
Innocent until proven guilty we don’t know what happened. Who goes to a Hotel to work on a paper? Nothing good ever happens late night in a hotel room for married people.

There’s a difference between innocent until proven guilty and saying from the jump that the accuser is lying.


If you assume innocence until proven guilty then you are assuming she's either lying or misremembering the events until proven otherwise.


Let's learn about the law:

"Innocent until proven guilty" is a principle in criminal trials that the burden is on the prosecutor to prove the defendant has committed the crime. Until that time, the defendant is considered innocent by the legal system.

The presumption of innocence in no way suggests the charges are false or anyone is lying; it simply means the charges have not yet been proven.

However, you, I, and everyone else can believe the defendant is guilty as sin if we so wish. No one but the courts are bounded by the presumption of innocence.

The concept doesn't apply in civil trials, which do not operate under the principles of innocence and guilt. Civil trials operate under a concept called "preponderance of evidence." This means the majority of the evidence must show the defendant is responsible for the alleged tort (a wrongful act or infringement of a right.)

The most accurate sentiment is that the civil courts do not consider Luke responsible for the alleged act until a preponderance of the evidence shows he is.

That, however, in no way suggests anyone is lying. It simply means no decision has been made.

You, I and everyone else can have any opinion we want about whether the act did or did not occur. My opinion is I have no opinion based on the scant amount of information I've heard of the case.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:14 pm    Post subject:

I wonder when the front offices of GSW and the Lakers learned about the lawsuit?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:16 pm    Post subject:

If guilty this sure beats him raiding the candy machine in college. If true, thanks Mitch and Jim for not vetting this douche. Even if not true, thanks Luke for messing up our young guys under your watch.
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