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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:40 am    Post subject: Can someone help me rationalize what's going on?

I know this discussion will be ran mostly on hypotheticals since most of us here are not privy to the inner workings and processes of the highest ups within the Lakers organization, but can anyone offer their best rational explanation as to how we got to this baffling point? More specifically, with all the current comments being bandied about including, Jeanie is incapable of running the franchise (e.g., "too weak", " too inept"), or Jeanie does not care about the franchise, amongst others, which seems to be the most likely and why? It just seems too easy to pin all these bad decisions on her apparent incompetence without maybe considering another factor for all the decisions that have seemed so obvious to many of us, even those who are not fans.

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:41 am    Post subject:

Linda Rambis (who never ever worked with basketball in her LIFE) is making basketball decisions. That's all you have to know.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:43 am    Post subject:

Cliff notes version, Dr. Buss passed away.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:44 am    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
Linda Rambis (who never ever worked with basketball in her LIFE) is making basketball decisions. That's all you have to know.



pretty much
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:45 am    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
Linda Rambis (who never ever worked with basketball in her LIFE) is making basketball decisions. That's all you have to know.


So Linda Rambis is THAT incompetent or she does not have the Laker's best interest in mind?
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:46 am    Post subject:

andrewc wrote:
danzag wrote:
Linda Rambis (who never ever worked with basketball in her LIFE) is making basketball decisions. That's all you have to know.


So Linda Rambis is THAT incompetent or she does not have the Laker's best interest in mind?


Well when her husband is the basketball mind behind the decisions yes
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:46 am    Post subject:

andrewc wrote:
danzag wrote:
Linda Rambis (who never ever worked with basketball in her LIFE) is making basketball decisions. That's all you have to know.


So Linda Rambis is THAT incompetent or she does not have the Laker's best interest in mind?


She probably wants Rambis as head coach
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:47 am    Post subject:

andrewc wrote:
danzag wrote:
Linda Rambis (who never ever worked with basketball in her LIFE) is making basketball decisions. That's all you have to know.


So Linda Rambis is THAT incompetent or she does not have the Laker's best interest in mind?


She's going after Mike Woodson and Lionel Hollins.
Yeah, she's THAT incompetent.

And Jeanie's even worse, because she gave Linda the power to do this.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:59 am    Post subject:

andrewc wrote:
danzag wrote:
Linda Rambis (who never ever worked with basketball in her LIFE) is making basketball decisions. That's all you have to know.


So Linda Rambis is THAT incompetent or she does not have the Laker's best interest in mind?

Make a list of all of the people in the entire world you would consult for their basketball opinion.
Where is Linda Rambis ranked on your list?
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: Can someone help me rationalize what's going on?

andrewc wrote:
I know this discussion will be ran mostly on hypotheticals since most of us here are not privy to the inner workings and processes of the highest ups within the Lakers organization, but can anyone offer their best rational explanation as to how we got to this baffling point? More specifically, with all the current comments being bandied about including, Jeanie is incapable of running the franchise (e.g., "too weak", " too inept"), or Jeanie does not care about the franchise, amongst others, which seems to be the most likely and why? It just seems too easy to pin all these bad decisions on her apparent incompetence without maybe considering another factor for all the decisions that have seemed so obvious to many of us, even those who are not fans.


It's pretty simple. Jeannie is a people pleaser and is making decisions by consensus.

Weakest and worst way to run an org.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:01 am    Post subject:

If Linda Rambis can deprogram Jeanie enough to stop drinking the Klutch Kool Aid then she deserves a little respect.

Once the deprogramming's over, she needs to step aside and let experienced executives take over the rebuild though.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: Can someone help me rationalize what's going on?

ringfinger wrote:
andrewc wrote:
I know this discussion will be ran mostly on hypotheticals since most of us here are not privy to the inner workings and processes of the highest ups within the Lakers organization, but can anyone offer their best rational explanation as to how we got to this baffling point? More specifically, with all the current comments being bandied about including, Jeanie is incapable of running the franchise (e.g., "too weak", " too inept"), or Jeanie does not care about the franchise, amongst others, which seems to be the most likely and why? It just seems too easy to pin all these bad decisions on her apparent incompetence without maybe considering another factor for all the decisions that have seemed so obvious to many of us, even those who are not fans.


It's pretty simple. Jeannie is a people pleaser and is making decisions by consensus.

Weakest and worst way to run an org.


but she sure acted like a gang buster in media when she tried to outst Jim Buss.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: Can someone help me rationalize what's going on?

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ringfinger wrote:
andrewc wrote:
I know this discussion will be ran mostly on hypotheticals since most of us here are not privy to the inner workings and processes of the highest ups within the Lakers organization, but can anyone offer their best rational explanation as to how we got to this baffling point? More specifically, with all the current comments being bandied about including, Jeanie is incapable of running the franchise (e.g., "too weak", " too inept"), or Jeanie does not care about the franchise, amongst others, which seems to be the most likely and why? It just seems too easy to pin all these bad decisions on her apparent incompetence without maybe considering another factor for all the decisions that have seemed so obvious to many of us, even those who are not fans.


It's pretty simple. Jeannie is a people pleaser and is making decisions by consensus.

Weakest and worst way to run an org.


but she sure acted like a gang buster in media when she tried to outst Jim Buss.


It was probably Linda Rambis whispering in her ears
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: Can someone help me rationalize what's going on?

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ringfinger wrote:
andrewc wrote:
I know this discussion will be ran mostly on hypotheticals since most of us here are not privy to the inner workings and processes of the highest ups within the Lakers organization, but can anyone offer their best rational explanation as to how we got to this baffling point? More specifically, with all the current comments being bandied about including, Jeanie is incapable of running the franchise (e.g., "too weak", " too inept"), or Jeanie does not care about the franchise, amongst others, which seems to be the most likely and why? It just seems too easy to pin all these bad decisions on her apparent incompetence without maybe considering another factor for all the decisions that have seemed so obvious to many of us, even those who are not fans.


It's pretty simple. Jeannie is a people pleaser and is making decisions by consensus.

Weakest and worst way to run an org.


but she sure acted like a gang buster in media when she tried to outst Jim Buss.


You think? I felt like ... she waited until she absolutely had no other choice rather than having vision and decisiveness.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: Can someone help me rationalize what's going on?

ringfinger wrote:
andrewc wrote:
I know this discussion will be ran mostly on hypotheticals since most of us here are not privy to the inner workings and processes of the highest ups within the Lakers organization, but can anyone offer their best rational explanation as to how we got to this baffling point? More specifically, with all the current comments being bandied about including, Jeanie is incapable of running the franchise (e.g., "too weak", " too inept"), or Jeanie does not care about the franchise, amongst others, which seems to be the most likely and why? It just seems too easy to pin all these bad decisions on her apparent incompetence without maybe considering another factor for all the decisions that have seemed so obvious to many of us, even those who are not fans.


It's pretty simple. Jeannie is a people pleaser and is making decisions by consensus.

Weakest and worst way to run an org.


This makes a lot of sense for me.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:20 am    Post subject:

No way to sugar coat this turd
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:38 am    Post subject:

Sentient Meat wrote:
If Linda Rambis can deprogram Jeanie enough to stop drinking the Klutch Kool Aid then she deserves a little respect.

Once the deprogramming's over, she needs to step aside and let experienced executives take over the rebuild though.


They never drank it, Magic or Jeanie. Sadly, there seems to be this idiotic notion that if they fully embrace Lebron (sign shooters; hire a coach he likes) that the team will lose its "Lakerness".
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:56 am    Post subject:

Oftentimes, rich and successful people have children who end up being spoiled and incompetent because they never had to work for anything before.

Our successful owner died, leaving the organization in the hands of his spoiled and incompetent children who also happen to not get along.

That is all.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 9:17 am    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Oftentimes, rich and successful people have children who end up being spoiled and incompetent because they never had to work for anything before.

Our successful owner died, leaving the organization in the hands of his spoiled and incompetent children who also happen to not get along.

That is all.


Bravo.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: Can someone help me rationalize what's going on?

andrewc wrote:
I know this discussion will be ran mostly on hypotheticals since most of us here are not privy to the inner workings and processes of the highest ups within the Lakers organization, but can anyone offer their best rational explanation as to how we got to this baffling point? More specifically, with all the current comments being bandied about including, Jeanie is incapable of running the franchise (e.g., "too weak", " too inept"), or Jeanie does not care about the franchise, amongst others, which seems to be the most likely and why? It just seems too easy to pin all these bad decisions on her apparent incompetence without maybe considering another factor for all the decisions that have seemed so obvious to many of us, even those who are not fans.


nepotism. hiring friends over qualified people.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 9:40 am    Post subject:

Dr. Buss dies, Jimbo and Mitch destroy the team in 5 years, they finally get a superstar and now they're trying to make it all work. It takes time to fix years of tanking and mismanagement.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 9:42 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Cliff notes version, Dr. Buss passed away.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 9:42 am    Post subject:

Sentient Meat wrote:
If Linda Rambis can deprogram Jeanie enough to stop drinking the Klutch Kool Aid then she deserves a little respect.

Once the deprogramming's over, she needs to step aside and let experienced executives take over the rebuild though.


The problem is

1) Jeannie has proven time and time again that she will NOT step aside and let the experience executives take over (call it pride, pure stupidity/incompetence, or whatever), because she's stuck in the past and apparently only previous Lakers know what it takes to win championships, and

2) given #1, Lebron and Klutch are actually the grown-ups in the room right now. You can hate on their methods and some of their past decisions all you want, but they're literally the smartest basketball guys we have anywhere near the FO at the moment. So trying to move away from their influence in favor of the alternatives we currently have (Rob the Snake Pelinka and the Rambii) is not exactly in the franchise's best interests.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 9:44 am    Post subject:

Larry Ellison, please buy the Lakers
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 9:53 am    Post subject:

You guys always seem to need someone to hate on - Guess Linda Rambis is the new Jim Buss. Let's all take a deep breath and see how this plays out.
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