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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:01 am    Post subject: I Formally Apologize to Jim Buss

Things may not have been optimal, but weren't as low as things are now. I pray that things will change, but maybe he wasn't the true problem with this franchise post Dr. Buss. (I've always been a Mitch fan so no apologies from me there for him).


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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: I Formally Apologize to Jim Buss

yinoma2001 wrote:
Things may not have been optimal, but weren't as low as things are now. I pray that things will change, but maybe he wasn't the true problem with this franchise post Dr. Buss. (I've always been a Mitch fan so no apologies from me there for him).






Things could always be worse I guess...
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:05 am    Post subject:

Both are terrible. Both. Jim and Jeanie.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:06 am    Post subject:

Jeanie is proving to be worse than Jim, but neither are acceptable choices to run the team. This team has a terminal case of the Buss Family.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:06 am    Post subject:

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Both are terrible. Both. Jim and Jeanie.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:08 am    Post subject: Re: I Formally Apologize to Jim Buss

yinoma2001 wrote:
Things may not have been optimal, but weren't as low as things are now. I pray that things will change, but maybe he wasn't the true problem with this franchise post Dr. Buss. (I've always been a Mitch fan so no apologies from me there for him).



That's the thing -- everyone thinks the grass is always greener. Give the Lakers a minute - let's see what happens. Magic really did them harm by leaving the way he did. It'll take some time to work through that.

Nobody out there is trying to help the Lakers - so all of these monday morning quarter backs are just talking for clicks and giggles.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: I Formally Apologize to Jim Buss

yinoma2001 wrote:
Things may not have been optimal, but weren't as low as things are now. I pray that things will change, but maybe he wasn't the true problem with this franchise post Dr. Buss. (I've always been a Mitch fan so no apologies from me there for him).



Makes me wonder if Jim actually had the authority to make decisions, or, if Jeannie was getting in the way letting her BFFs chime in.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:09 am    Post subject:

Didn't we give two of the most horrendous contracts ever under Mitch, and Jim's watch?

I disagree that things weren't as low.

We have a team that can compete for a title, with a key free agent acquisition, and additional pieces. Which is a far cry from where we were with Jim.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:10 am    Post subject:

Not saying necessarily that I would want Jim back. But all things considered, he hasn't done as much damage to the Lakers as Jeanie has now. Hopefully she can turn things around.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:10 am    Post subject:

I think the stability in the organization was largely due to Mitch. If we wanted a GM who was truly mentored by Jerry West, then we should have kept Mitch. Mitch's mentorship by West far exceeds anything that Bob Myers was exposed to.

Yes, Mitch made some terrible free agency decisions, and there are some other modern front office operations things he was falling behind on. So I understand why we moved on from him. But Mitch did a lot of things well. He ran a pretty tight ship and was well-respected around the league.


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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: I Formally Apologize to Jim Buss

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yinoma2001 wrote:
Things may not have been optimal, but weren't as low as things are now. I pray that things will change, but maybe he wasn't the true problem with this franchise post Dr. Buss. (I've always been a Mitch fan so no apologies from me there for him).



Makes me wonder if Jim actually had the authority to make decisions, or, if Jeannie was getting in the way letting her BFFs chime in.



Oh ! a new conspiracy theory !!! We need these...
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:12 am    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
Both are terrible. Both. Jim and Jeanie.


Yup, never been a fan of either.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:15 am    Post subject:

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Didn't we give two of the most horrendous contracts ever under Mitch, and Jim's watch?

I disagree that things weren't as low.

We have a team that can compete for a title, with a key free agent acquisition, and additional pieces. Which is a far cry from where we were with Jim.


Don’t forget hiring Byron Scott and Luke Walton. Both coaches killed DLO. And they sucked as coaches.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:16 am    Post subject:

I told you guys all along that Jeanie was the problem
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:18 am    Post subject:

SocalDevin wrote:
Didn't we give two of the most horrendous contracts ever under Mitch, and Jim's watch?

I disagree that things weren't as low.

We have a team that can compete for a title, with a key free agent acquisition, and additional pieces. Which is a far cry from where we were with Jim.


I suppose, but on the other hand, I understood, and agreed with, the strategy. Find vets who can fill some cap space, contribute just enough without getting in the way of player development.

The execution ended up being poor, but at the time, a lot of people were happy about Deng in particular.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: I Formally Apologize to Jim Buss

yinoma2001 wrote:
Things may not have been optimal, but weren't as low as things are now. I pray that things will change, but maybe he wasn't the true problem with this franchise post Dr. Buss. (I've always been a Mitch fan so no apologies from me there for him).




I wonder if Jim could have gotten [insert FA name] here.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: I Formally Apologize to Jim Buss

yinoma2001 wrote:
Things may not have been optimal, but weren't as low as things are now. I pray that things will change, but maybe he wasn't the true problem with this franchise post Dr. Buss. (I've always been a Mitch fan so no apologies from me there for him).



honestly but i have to
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:20 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
I told you guys all along that Jeanie was the problem


You were right. I apologize for waiving off your opinion on Jennie and Magic.
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venturalakersfan wrote:
I told you guys all along that Jeanie was the problem


I’ll grant you that man. No idea how you saw through it and you caught a lot of flack for it but you were right.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:21 am    Post subject:

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Jeanie is proving to be worse than Jim, but neither are acceptable choices to run the team. This team has a terminal case of the Buss Family.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: I Formally Apologize to Jim Buss

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That's the thing -- everyone thinks the grass is always greener. Give the Lakers a minute - let's see what happens. Magic really did them harm by leaving the way he did. It'll take some time to work through that.

Nobody out there is trying to help the Lakers - so all of these monday morning quarter backs are just talking for clicks and giggles.


Or it could be that Magic is the smart one and got out because of the drama. That isn't to say Magic was making great decisions, but why would he stick around when he's taking orders from Kurt Rambis's wife?
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:23 am    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
SocalDevin wrote:
Didn't we give two of the most horrendous contracts ever under Mitch, and Jim's watch?

I disagree that things weren't as low.

We have a team that can compete for a title, with a key free agent acquisition, and additional pieces. Which is a far cry from where we were with Jim.


Don’t forget hiring Byron Scott and Luke Walton. Both coaches killed DLO. And they sucked as coaches.


Yea that too.
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venturalakersfan wrote:
I told you guys all along that Jeanie was the problem


Yeah you did. Btw, sorry about 1090 AM, it was a good alternative to 710/570 while it lasted.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:24 am    Post subject: Re: I Formally Apologize to Jim Buss

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yinoma2001 wrote:
Things may not have been optimal, but weren't as low as things are now. I pray that things will change, but maybe he wasn't the true problem with this franchise post Dr. Buss. (I've always been a Mitch fan so no apologies from me there for him).




I wonder if Jim could have gotten [insert FA name] here.


It seems more and more clear that LBJ was on a glide path to here. I know we want to romanticize that it was Magic that brought LBJ here. Seems that much like LBJ's M.O., he already knows what he wants to do well in advance.
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