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SocalDevin
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| ringfinger wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | Didn't we give two of the most horrendous contracts ever under Mitch, and Jim's watch?
I disagree that things weren't as low.
We have a team that can compete for a title, with a key free agent acquisition, and additional pieces. Which is a far cry from where we were with Jim. |
I suppose, but on the other hand, I understood, and agreed with, the strategy. Find vets who can fill some cap space, contribute just enough without getting in the way of player development.
The execution ended up being poor, but at the time, a lot of people were happy about Deng in particular. |
Sorry but there is no positive spin one could put on that situation. We are better off now than we were with them at the helm, there is no disputing that. |
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The Juggernaut
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| This is such a stupid thread. Jim doesnt deserve an apology, he was TERRIBLE. Jeanie is also horrendous. Both are true. Jerry Buss unfortunately left the team in the wrong hands. |
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yinoma2001
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And I still will give credit to Magic for getting LBJ, just as much as I credit him with the utter failure of this season after getting LBJ too.
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | I told you guys all along that Jeanie was the problem |
I’ll grant you that man. No idea how you saw through it and you caught a lot of flack for it but you were right. |
Ditto V ! I don't think I have commented, but yeah, seems you have been right
all along man. I tip my hat.
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | And I still will give credit to Magic for getting LBJ, just as much as I credit him with the utter failure of this season after getting LBJ too. |
LBJ came here because he wanted to be in Los Angeles.
If Magic helped, it would be mostly because Klutch saw a mark who wouldn't stand in their way.
I'm sorry, but that's how I see it. |
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The Juggernaut
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| deal wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | I told you guys all along that Jeanie was the problem |
I’ll grant you that man. No idea how you saw through it and you caught a lot of flack for it but you were right. |
Ditto V ! I don't think I have commented, but yeah, seems you have been right
all along man. I tip my hat. |
He wasn't right. Jim was a complete failure. Jeanie is as well. Both can be true |
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SocalDevin
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| The Juggernaut wrote: | | deal wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | I told you guys all along that Jeanie was the problem |
I’ll grant you that man. No idea how you saw through it and you caught a lot of flack for it but you were right. |
Ditto V ! I don't think I have commented, but yeah, seems you have been right
all along man. I tip my hat. |
He wasn't right. Jim was a complete failure. Jeanie is as well. Both can be true |
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Sentient Meat
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| It is true that Tommen was almost as terrible as Joffrey... just in very different ways. |
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| LuciusAllen wrote: | I think the stability in the organization was largely due to Mitch. If we wanted a GM who was truly mentored by Jerry West, then we should have kept Mitch. Mitch's mentorship by West far exceeds anything that Bob Myers was exposed to.
Yes, Mitch made some terrible free agency decisions, and there are some other modern front office operations things he was falling behind on. So I understand why we moved on from him. But Mitch did a lot of things well. He ran a pretty tight ship and was well-respected around the league. |
Mitch had no problem finding another position
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| The Juggernaut wrote: | | deal wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | I told you guys all along that Jeanie was the problem |
I’ll grant you that man. No idea how you saw through it and you caught a lot of flack for it but you were right. |
Ditto V ! I don't think I have commented, but yeah, seems you have been right
all along man. I tip my hat. |
He wasn't right. Jim was a complete failure. Jeanie is as well. Both can be true |
Still Lakers were pretty much a tight ship with not much controversy other than Jennie stirring it up. Now it’s full blown chaos from Magic quitting and this stupid Coach hiring process. |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | And I still will give credit to Magic for getting LBJ, just as much as I credit him with the utter failure of this season after getting LBJ too. |
Yes, Lebron came under Magic’s watch.
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Kobe_Is_King13
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Honestly, I'd argue that Jim was doing a good job. Look at the players he and Kupchak drafted/brought in:
- D'Angelo (Avg 21 ppg,7 asts ;Allstar)
- Randle (Avg 21 ppg, 8 rebs)
- Ingram (18 ppg, 5rebs)
- Lou Williams (20 ppg, 5 asts)
- Jordan Clarkson (16 ppg)
There were some horrible moves, namely Mozgov and Deng, but the young talent that was here was good and has proven to be better than what Magic/Pelinka has brought in. |
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LuciusAllen
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | LuciusAllen wrote: | I think the stability in the organization was largely due to Mitch. If we wanted a GM who was truly mentored by Jerry West, then we should have kept Mitch. Mitch's mentorship by West far exceeds anything that Bob Myers was exposed to.
Yes, Mitch made some terrible free agency decisions, and there are some other modern front office operations things he was falling behind on. So I understand why we moved on from him. But Mitch did a lot of things well. He ran a pretty tight ship and was well-respected around the league. |
Mitch had no problem finding another position |
Exactly. Respect means something. Maybe he needed a little more help, but he's no dummy. |
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Jim was bad. Jeanie is terrible.
Both need rid be gone. We're half way there.
Mitch and Jim- bad enough that we ended up with lotto picks and struck out
Magic- Gives away lotto picks but get LeBron + terrible small moves (win now)
The Rambii- Turn down a coach so LeBron won't have power/want to trade him
We are a mess |
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The Juggernaut
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| 2019 wrote: | Jim was bad. Jeanie is terrible.
Both need rid be gone. We're half way there.
Mitch and Jim- bad enough that we ended up with lotto picks and struck out
Magic- Gives away lotto picks but get LeBron + terrible small moves (win now)
The Rambii- Turn down a coach so LeBron won't have power/want to trade him
We are a mess |
Absolutely correct. We need the NBA to step in like they did for the Clippers. Isn't there a tape of Jeanie saying racist remarks somewhere? or sexually harassing ball boys? |
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2019
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 10:39 am Post subject: |
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| The Juggernaut wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | Jim was bad. Jeanie is terrible.
Both need rid be gone. We're half way there.
Mitch and Jim- bad enough that we ended up with lotto picks and struck out
Magic- Gives away lotto picks but get LeBron + terrible small moves (win now)
The Rambii- Turn down a coach so LeBron won't have power/want to trade him
We are a mess |
Absolutely correct. We need the NBA to step in like they did for the Clippers. Isn't there a tape of Jeanie saying racist remarks somewhere? or sexually harassing ball boys? |
I'll take one for the team |
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SocalDevin
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The Juggernaut
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| 2019 wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | Jim was bad. Jeanie is terrible.
Both need rid be gone. We're half way there.
Mitch and Jim- bad enough that we ended up with lotto picks and struck out
Magic- Gives away lotto picks but get LeBron + terrible small moves (win now)
The Rambii- Turn down a coach so LeBron won't have power/want to trade him
We are a mess |
Absolutely correct. We need the NBA to step in like they did for the Clippers. Isn't there a tape of Jeanie saying racist remarks somewhere? or sexually harassing ball boys? |
I'll take one for the team |
You and me both, brother |
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| Jim was bad, Jeanie is worst |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| danzag wrote: | | Jim was bad, Jeanie is worst |
The problem for me is that she has been the constant steward over both.
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | danzag wrote: | | Jim was bad, Jeanie is worst |
The problem for me is that she has been the constant steward over both. |
While she wants to accountability for decisions, she does enough to undermine/limit each group.
As bad as Magic was, at least he wanted to fire Luke and Rob. Who knows what his next move would have been but Jeanie put her foot down about Rob due to her attachment to Kobe. |
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danzag
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | danzag wrote: | | Jim was bad, Jeanie is worst |
The problem for me is that she has been the constant steward over both. |
For sure. I hated the way she handled things with Jim and Mitch.
Even if the team needed a change, that's not how you do things.
And now everything is even worse. She's completely lost. |
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King Randle
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| I didn't think Jim did a good job so no apology from me...but Jeanie is much, much worse! |
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| I formally give the middle finger to both Jimbo and Bimbo for humiliating its' fan base, and for ruining this once proud franchise. Jerry's biggest failure as an owner was bequeathing the management of the Lakers to his unqualified spawn. |
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yinoma2001
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| diamondcutter wrote: | | I formally give the middle finger to both Jimbo and Bimbo for humiliating its' fan base, and for ruining this once proud franchise. Jerry's biggest failure as an owner was bequeathing the management of the Lakers to his unqualified spawn. |
So what are you giving to Jeanie then since she's been the head steward over both?
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