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Lonzo-Lite
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| Big Game James wrote: |
Interesting, because I can think of many better scenarios than that!
We get Kawhi.
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We get Durant.
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We get Klay.
And then we trade for AD... |
No more trading for AD.
My hope is to sign Kyrie, and then sign and trade for Kawhi.
I hope that Kawhi leaves Toronto, and if he does Toronto would be open to doing a sign and trade than lose him for nothing. Assuming that's all possible.
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| unleasHell wrote: | | AFireInside619 wrote: | | I would love to see a backcourt of Zo and Ky. |
WHY?
The Last thing the Lakers need is a PG who averages 10ppg and 31% from the 3-pt line playing SG...
For the Lakers to be a Championship caliber team:
Zo Must Go
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You're completely wrong |
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | Irving wouldn't be my first choice at this point but beggars can't be choosers. |
That might be true if our only objective is to sign a big name FA. If the objective is to try and compete, we can be choosers.
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Kawhi over KD cuz it saves us ~$6M |
Plus we don’t have the cap space to sign KD
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| danzag wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | AFireInside619 wrote: | | I would love to see a backcourt of Zo and Ky. |
WHY?
The Last thing the Lakers need is a PG who averages 10ppg and 31% from the 3-pt line playing SG...
For the Lakers to be a Championship caliber team:
Zo Must Go
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You're completely wrong |
Right. Zo would be the PG and Kyrie would be the scoring 2 guard essentially. Zo would cover the opposing 2 though. He has the size and with another off season of strength conditioning, he'll have the strength too. |
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venturalakersfan
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| Lonzo-Lite wrote: | | Big Game James wrote: |
Interesting, because I can think of many better scenarios than that!
We get Kawhi.
or
We get Durant.
or
We get Klay.
And then we trade for AD... |
No more trading for AD.
My hope is to sign Kyrie, and then sign and trade for Kawhi.
I hope that Kawhi leaves Toronto, and if he does Toronto would be open to doing a sign and trade than lose him for nothing. Assuming that's all possible. |
I’m not sure that Toronto would do that. At worst they get rid of Derozan’s salary and if they can offload Lowry, they are ready for a rebuild. They wouldn’t have to decide whether or not to extend Ingram. Plus, how are we going to come up with $26.5 mil in salaries?
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| We do have the cap space. They have 38.2 million in cap space if I recall. |
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| legend825 wrote: | | We do have the cap space. They have 38.2 million in cap space if I recall. |
Not that much if we keep our lottery pick and keep Bullock's cap hold. We did have that pre lottery day/Bullock trade.
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| legend825 wrote: | | We do have the cap space. They have 38.2 million in cap space if I recall. |
Not if we sign Kyrie
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | AFireInside619 wrote: | | I would love to see a backcourt of Zo and Ky. |
WHY?
The Last thing the Lakers need is a PG who averages 10ppg and 31% from the 3-pt line playing SG...
For the Lakers to be a Championship caliber team:
Zo Must Go
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Who is playing defense from the guard position? If you get Kyrie you probably want a low usage defender like Lonzo who can also rebound/pass.
Think of Kyrie as the "SG" on offense. |
Think of Lou and Beverly
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:35 am Post subject: |
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lol where is this Durant stuff coming from?
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| danzag wrote: | | unleasHell wrote: | | AFireInside619 wrote: | | I would love to see a backcourt of Zo and Ky. |
WHY?
The Last thing the Lakers need is a PG who averages 10ppg and 31% from the 3-pt line playing SG...
For the Lakers to be a Championship caliber team:
Zo Must Go
(Chant it with me now....) |
You're completely wrong |
LOL,
Wrong that Zo has averaged 10ppg over two seasons?
Wrong that he has missed 65 out of 182 games in his two seasons?
Wrong that his career 3pt % is 31.5%
Wrong that he shoots 43% from the FT line?
Wrong that is APG went down 1.8 per game since LeBron came here?
Wrong that the Lakers need COMPETENT 3pt shooters on the floor with LeBron, ones that do NOT miss 68.5% of the time?
Being happy with Zo and his play equates to being happy with mediocrity and perhaps you are and I am fine with that, if settling for less makes you happy, then by all means ENJOY Zo all you want!
For me I have higher expectations and they are driven by actual facts and stats and if you looked at it that way, in reality instead of fantasy you would understand why you are wrong...!
Now maybe and hopefully Kidd can help him, but if not, the Lakers are making a huge mistake keeping him past next season when his contract calls for $11mil & $14mil, which is kinda high for a 10ppg guy, isn't it?
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| Dang, some of the posters in here lol why Kyrie? Why Kyrie? Cuz zo is trash. All you fall in love with these guys we draft. Thinking if we just keep waiting they will blossom into something great. Zo can’t shoot and last time I checked you win by putting the ball in the basket. Kyrie is so much better then zo it’s not even funny as others have posted the numbers. Bron compliments zo I’m hoping someone will trade for him. Please laker fans just stop. If we miss on a guy we miss on him. Better to trade him to early then to hold on and get nothing. Be real, a pg shooting under 50% at the foul line is useless. I don’t care if he is a top 10 defender in the league, which zo isn’t even that yet, you can’t have it. Ask any gm in the game if you want zo or Kyrie, I think every single one says Kyrie. So for the original poster to ask why Kyrie, cuz we want to win. |
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Bleacher Report:
| Quote: | "From what I'm told, it's not going to happen. I got a text message from folks close to Kyrie's family, within the hour, as we were teasing this subject. Quote: 'There is no way in Hell he's going to LA. I don't give a damn what anybody says, knock that down for us right now please. He ain't going to LA.' That's what they say," Stephen A. Smith relayed Monday on First Take.
"From everything that I've been hearing over the last few days, Kyrie Irving is heading to New York City. Kyrie Irving is heading to Madison Square Garden with Kevin Durant. People in his inner circle are trying to bring the Nets into the mix, but clearly New York is the destination." |
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Lonzo-Lite
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Lonzo-Lite wrote: | | Big Game James wrote: |
Interesting, because I can think of many better scenarios than that!
We get Kawhi.
or
We get Durant.
or
We get Klay.
And then we trade for AD... |
No more trading for AD.
My hope is to sign Kyrie, and then sign and trade for Kawhi.
I hope that Kawhi leaves Toronto, and if he does Toronto would be open to doing a sign and trade than lose him for nothing. Assuming that's all possible. |
I’m not sure that Toronto would do that. At worst they get rid of Derozan’s salary and if they can offload Lowry, they are ready for a rebuild. They wouldn’t have to decide whether or not to extend Ingram. Plus, how are we going to come up with $26.5 mil in salaries? |
I honestly have no clue about how all this works. Just hoping if that's something we could do or not.
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I agree that Lonzo is a mess offensively.
He needs to improve in all of those areas: FG%, 3P%, FT% and aggressiveness.
He's very solid defensely however and you need players that can play hard defense especially if you've got some weak points defensively. His rebounding and assist rates are still quite good even with Lebron James hoarding those stats.
Unless Lonzo is traded as part of a package for a star, I don't see any reason to trade him. He still has a lot of upside. And his overall trade value is depressed so you won't get value for him.
Better to roll the dice and trust you can develop him. If you don't believe you can develop him, you should fire yourself and find someone that can. |
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| Big Game James wrote: | Bleacher Report:
| Quote: | "From what I'm told, it's not going to happen. I got a text message from folks close to Kyrie's family, within the hour, as we were teasing this subject. Quote: 'There is no way in Hell he's going to LA. I don't give a damn what anybody says, knock that down for us right now please. He ain't going to LA.' That's what they say," Stephen A. Smith relayed Monday on First Take.
"From everything that I've been hearing over the last few days, Kyrie Irving is heading to New York City. Kyrie Irving is heading to Madison Square Garden with Kevin Durant. People in his inner circle are trying to bring the Nets into the mix, but clearly New York is the destination." |
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| Chad09 wrote: | | Big Game James wrote: | Bleacher Report:
| Quote: | "From what I'm told, it's not going to happen. I got a text message from folks close to Kyrie's family, within the hour, as we were teasing this subject. Quote: 'There is no way in Hell he's going to LA. I don't give a damn what anybody says, knock that down for us right now please. He ain't going to LA.' That's what they say," Stephen A. Smith relayed Monday on First Take.
"From everything that I've been hearing over the last few days, Kyrie Irving is heading to New York City. Kyrie Irving is heading to Madison Square Garden with Kevin Durant. People in his inner circle are trying to bring the Nets into the mix, but clearly New York is the destination." |
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Welp |
So no Kyrie. No Leonard. No KD. No Klay.
Jimmy Butler, come on down. |
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| So people trust SAS now? |
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 9:19 am Post subject: |
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| Jackie McMullan / Windy and Irving’s close homie have all stated that Irving going to the Lakers is a real possibility.... |
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AFireInside619
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | So people trust SAS now? |
One things for sure. He’s got more sources than IGotSources! |
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| Big Game James wrote: | Bleacher Report:
| Quote: | "From what I'm told, it's not going to happen. I got a text message from folks close to Kyrie's family, within the hour, as we were teasing this subject. Quote: 'There is no way in Hell he's going to LA. I don't give a damn what anybody says, knock that down for us right now please. He ain't going to LA.' That's what they say," Stephen A. Smith relayed Monday on First Take.
"From everything that I've been hearing over the last few days, Kyrie Irving is heading to New York City. Kyrie Irving is heading to Madison Square Garden with Kevin Durant. People in his inner circle are trying to bring the Nets into the mix, but clearly New York is the destination." |
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Niceee... like how SAS squashed the JKidd to LA rumor? |
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Clutch24
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| vanexelent wrote: | | Chad09 wrote: | | Big Game James wrote: | Bleacher Report:
| Quote: | "From what I'm told, it's not going to happen. I got a text message from folks close to Kyrie's family, within the hour, as we were teasing this subject. Quote: 'There is no way in Hell he's going to LA. I don't give a damn what anybody says, knock that down for us right now please. He ain't going to LA.' That's what they say," Stephen A. Smith relayed Monday on First Take.
"From everything that I've been hearing over the last few days, Kyrie Irving is heading to New York City. Kyrie Irving is heading to Madison Square Garden with Kevin Durant. People in his inner circle are trying to bring the Nets into the mix, but clearly New York is the destination." |
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Welp |
So no Kyrie. No Leonard. No KD. No Klay.
Jimmy Butler, come on down. |
Damn, I missed free agency... |
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | So people trust SAS now? |
One things for sure. He’s got more sources than IGotSources! |
I know Stephen A Smith has sources but maybe this a situation were Kyrie’s close peers are hoping he joins NY, it doesn’t mean he will. |
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