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Inspector Gadget
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| al242 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I’m optimistic Vogel will join the list of great Laker coaches, everything about him sounds very exciting, I’m really shocked no one was trying to hire him, but maybe because no one cares when another team makes a bad decision like the Lakers. |
I can recall only 2 great Laker coaches, what list are you referring to? |
Who was the Lakers coach during the 1940’s/1950’s/1970s cause we had tremendously success during those eras. |
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Just found this interesting.
Both Frank Vogel and Brad Stevens became NBA head coach at the age of 37. Vogel coached Indiana through his age 42 season (6 years) while Stevens just completed his age 42 season. Here are their records in the span of time:
Regular Season
Brad Stevens 270-222 (55%)
Frank Vogel 250-181 (58%)
Playoffs
Brad Stevens 27-29 (48%)
Fank Vogel 31-30 (51%)
Vogel has since coached two lackluster seasons in Orlando, though it is fair to point out the roster construction was as bad or worse than what Earvin put together this last season. This isn't necessarily a barometer of Vogul as a good coach or not. Just a sense of how brand perception can impact things in a number of ways. |
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epak
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| Laker's Fan wrote: | Just found this interesting.
Both Frank Vogel and Brad Stevens became NBA head coach at the age of 37. Vogel coached Indiana through his age 42 season (6 years) while Stevens just completed his age 42 season. Here are their records in the span of time:
Regular Season
Brad Stevens 270-222 (55%)
Frank Vogel 250-181 (58%)
Playoffs
Brad Stevens 27-29 (48%)
Fank Vogel 31-30 (51%)
Vogel has since coached two lackluster seasons in Orlando, though it is fair to point out the roster construction was as bad or worse than what Earvin put together this last season. This isn't necessarily a barometer of Vogul as a good coach or not. Just a sense of how brand perception can impact things in a number of ways. |
Interesting stuff. Thanks. |
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Luminous8
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | Quote: | | Vogel showed he had a passion for coaching and a true dedication to improving himself. |
lol he showed a passion for taking a short deal and letting Linda Rambis pick his staff. |
Why don’t you go cry us a river. To think, they could have had you as GM and allowed you to get your truly great staff together and they missed out .🙄 |
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ocho
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Luminous8 wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Quote: | | Vogel showed he had a passion for coaching and a true dedication to improving himself. |
lol he showed a passion for taking a short deal and letting Linda Rambis pick his staff. |
Why don’t you go cry us a river. To think, they could have had you as GM and allowed you to get your truly great staff together and they missed out .🙄 |
That would have been great! First order of business would be to hire professionals and let them do the work.
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venturalakersfan
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Why would Paul take that to the commissioner? Pretty idiotic thing to do.
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defense
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Nosferatu snitching |
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epak
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| defense wrote: | | Nosferatu snitching |
Referring to Silver?
I mean, it was leaked.
Silver was asked about it.
Should he have lied? |
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defense
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | defense wrote: | | Nosferatu snitching |
Referring to Silver?
I mean, it was leaked.
Silver was asked about it.
Should he have lied? |
Joke? |
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epak
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| defense wrote: | | epak wrote: | | defense wrote: | | Nosferatu snitching |
Referring to Silver?
I mean, it was leaked.
Silver was asked about it.
Should he have lied? |
Joke? |
Over my head? |
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defense
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | defense wrote: | | epak wrote: | | defense wrote: | | Nosferatu snitching |
Referring to Silver?
I mean, it was leaked.
Silver was asked about it.
Should he have lied? |
Joke? |
Over my head? |
Like a 21 year old Kobe going for the tomahawk sledgehammer |
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SocalDevin
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| lol |
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epak
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| defense wrote: | | epak wrote: | | defense wrote: | | epak wrote: | | defense wrote: | | Nosferatu snitching |
Referring to Silver?
I mean, it was leaked.
Silver was asked about it.
Should he have lied? |
Joke? |
Over my head? |
Like a 21 year old Kobe going for the tomahawk sledgehammer |
Joke => Vince
Me => Frederic Weis |
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Luminous8
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| Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| The fact that Silver feels comfortable enough to talk to an agent about something like that tells me a lot about Silver tbh. He’s shady AF |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:43 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Why would Paul take that to the commissioner? Pretty idiotic thing to do. |
Rich Paul and LBJ wanted Luke gone very early last year. The fact that the Lakers kept Luke the year out, despite all the losses piling up, says a lot about them as an organization. They did not just up end and fire him because LBJ wanted it. They gave him a shot, although flawed because Magic was never really sold on him as a head coach.
I'm just surprised, that all the backlash of this is going on the Lakers, and none on Rich Paul and LBJ. You pretty much have confirmation on why the Lakers HAD to make this move, and yet the perception is that the Lakers did the wrong thing. They absolutely made the right call. Luke had no idea how to deal with Lebron, he was accustomed to coaching players like Curry/Iggy. He was good for a young re-building team. Once Lebron came into play, Luke was not the right fit. So either we needed to trade Lebron, or we needed to change coaches.
I actually am even more happy now that we end up with Vogel over Lue. Lue was too much like Lebron's puppet. Lue's schemes and coaching style were figured out easily the second and third time he played State. He didn't make any adjustments from year 2 to year 3 vs State. I don't know if Frank will be better in this regard, but Lue's stuff was figured out, and his game plan around Lebron was very evident. |
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Car54
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| Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:19 am Post subject: |
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I wanted Vogel the year we hired Luke but I was also happy with Luke at the time. Wolf I wasn’t against bringing Lue in but I He was good to have while Lebron is here. I also understand Lues stance on he 5 years. I’m hoping the best for Vogel.
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Lucky_Shot
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I love the 5 out offensive system. It's the most fun to watch, so I'm pretty excited to see it next year. Our younger players are going to have to shoot better for it to be effective but the system itself will help them.
It will take major buy in but its perfect for LBJ |
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Luminous8
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Soooo,.... this guy not getting a staff or what?!? |
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Sago
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Luminous8 wrote: | | Soooo,.... this guy not getting a staff or what?!? |
Nah. Kidd will be hiring his staff |
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The Juggernaut
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| Luminous8 wrote: | | Soooo,.... this guy not getting a staff or what?!? |
Who else do we need on staff? We already have: Jason Kidd, Kurt Rambis, Linda Rambis, and Phil Jackson as consultant |
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| The Juggernaut wrote: | | Luminous8 wrote: | | Soooo,.... this guy not getting a staff or what?!? |
Who else do we need on staff? We already have: Jason Kidd, Kurt Rambis, Linda Rambis, and Phil Jackson as consultant |
If only we could've kept Murmuys. 
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Luminous8
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| kikanga wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | Luminous8 wrote: | | Soooo,.... this guy not getting a staff or what?!? |
Who else do we need on staff? We already have: Jason Kidd, Kurt Rambis, Linda Rambis, and Phil Jackson as consultant |
If only we could've kept Murmuys. |
I actually thought Jesse had some pretty good philosophies. He was also a pretty good defensive coach. Iirc, it was Jesse who implemented the defense that caused the Warriors so much struggles on Christmas Day. |
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Shams: | Quote: | | Jason Kidd’s contract with the Lakers made him the highest paid assistant coach in the NBA, sources with knowledge of the deal said. |
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ocho
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| Saul_Hudson wrote: | Shams: | Quote: | | Jason Kidd’s contract with the Lakers made him the highest paid assistant coach in the NBA, sources with knowledge of the deal said. |
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Continuing the trend of being willing to open the checkbook on the condition that it's for the wrong person.
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