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Are you happy about Vogel becoming our coach? |
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fansincemagic Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Coming out of halftime he needs to tell the team: "Alright guys we're going to overtime let's play 5 really great minutes of Laker basketball." |
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Hard_Butter Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Just fire this mf already. _________________ The butter's hard and the eggs are chillin' in the dark.
Kiss my Converse. |
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Hard_Butter Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Homie is toast. _________________ The butter's hard and the eggs are chillin' in the dark.
Kiss my Converse. |
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levon Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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(bleep) this staff |
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Koalita Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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I hope they don't fire Vogel, as I don't think the replacements are really that solid. But if they do, I would like to see they go with Becky Hammon |
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slavavov Star Player
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 8288 Location: Santa Monica
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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I'm almost on board with firing Vogel at this point, but who could we hire or promote who would be better than him? |
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Laker_Town Retired Number
Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Posts: 25604
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Fire him.
Fire him, fire him , fire him
He makes a long overdue substitute in the third OT at 1:20 left.
He's not an idiot. He's deliberately doing these thing to protest his extension.
Fire his ass now. |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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I am not sure how much blame you can put on Vogel when lebron and AD decides to be splash brothers and went 2-18 from the 3 |
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Laker_Town Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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slavavov wrote: | I'm almost on board with firing Vogel at this point, but who could we hire or promote who would be better than him? |
He's lost the lockerroom and the fans. We don't have a coach anyway.
Doesn't matter. |
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Laker_Town Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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mad55557777 wrote: | I am not sure how much blame you can put on Vogel when lebron and AD decides to be splash brothers and went 2-18 from the 3 |
DeAndre?
Zero substitutes when they're gassed?
Zero offensive schemes?
LeBron and AD have tuned him out |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Laker_Town wrote: | mad55557777 wrote: | I am not sure how much blame you can put on Vogel when lebron and AD decides to be splash brothers and went 2-18 from the 3 |
DeAndre?
Zero substitutes when they're gassed?
Zero offensive schemes?
LeBron and AD have tuned him out |
If we can find a coach to stop lebron and AD from taking those 3s, i am all for it |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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If we can’t stop anyone of defense might as well run some plays on offense. The ISOs are killing this team. _________________ “You have to dance beautifully in the box that you are comfortable dancing in.” - Kobe Bryant |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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I'd like to see more effort on the glass.
And just more energy in general. Alot of coasting. Particularly early in games.
Overall, Vogel still gets a pass in my book since he won a chip with us. But I'll join the rest of the people with pitchforks if we under perform this postseason. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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rybee Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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I don’t see him getting fired until the off-season at least since there seems to be no better alternative at the moment. |
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Japago Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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The Lakers have completely collapsed in too many games. I think a different coach could help.
A different coach can design more plays to get a few more baskets when the other team is going on a run. That can stem the tide or even break up a run.
A different coach can make sure more players are involved throughout the game. That's not only tougher to defend, but more players are going to be viable in crunch time. During Kings game today, nobody else seemed viable when LeBron took all the shots late in the 4th and the overtimes.
LeBron doesn't want to take all the shots. He's not Kobe. He's a play-maker at heart. I think if there's a concerted effort to get more players involved, he'll be ok with that.
This roster isn't perfect. But, I don't think Vogel is the right guy to maximize the team the way it's constructed. |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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If this game shows anything, we need the big lineups at the closing time. Even if he has to make the offense /defense sub. The offense rebounds we gave up is killing us |
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levon Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | I'd like to see more effort on the glass.
And just more energy in general. Alot of coasting. Particularly early in games.
Overall, Vogel still gets a pass in my book since he won a chip with us. But I'll join the rest of the people with pitchforks if we under perform this postseason. |
we're not making it to the postseason on this current trajectory. they're botton of the league in almost every metric that matters playing the easiest stretch of the schedule |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:16 am Post subject: |
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The Lakers are bad right now beyond Vogel, but let's get this over with. Bring on Fizdale.
Let's see what the real problem is. _________________ Under New Management |
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Hard_Butter Franchise Player
Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Posts: 12223 Location: The Two One Three
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | The Lakers are bad right now beyond Vogel, but let's get this over with. Bring on Fizdale.
Let's see what the real problem is. |
Fizdale wouldn't be the answer either. Perhaps losing Kidd and Hollins was a bigger blow than expected. Maybe making sure keeping Dudz on the bench would've helped. All I know is that he's lost the team. Good guy. Great defensive coach, but not a leader. And he's been exposed offensively. Was he dealt a bad hand? Sure. But the team shouldn't be this bad. A new voice, any voice might help ala Bickerstaff.
At the very least, give this poor man an offensive guru.... _________________ The butter's hard and the eggs are chillin' in the dark.
Kiss my Converse. |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Koalita wrote: | I hope they don't fire Vogel, as I don't think the replacements are really that solid. But if they do, I would like to see they go with Becky Hammon |
I want them to fire Vogel and get Hammon.
They'd probably get D'Antoni. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Hard_Butter wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | The Lakers are bad right now beyond Vogel, but let's get this over with. Bring on Fizdale.
Let's see what the real problem is. |
Fizdale wouldn't be the answer either. Perhaps losing Kidd and Hollins was a bigger blow than expected. Maybe making sure keeping Dudz on the bench would've helped. All I know is that he's lost the team. Good guy. Great defensive coach, but not a leader. And he's been exposed offensively. Was he dealt a bad hand? Sure. But the team shouldn't be this bad. A new voice, any voice might help ala Bickerstaff.
At the very least, give this poor man an offensive guru.... |
Vogel didn't want one. He intentionally did not go after an offensive assistant in the off-season because he felt it wasn't needed, till we saw our full roster -_- _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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miggz23 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:12 am Post subject: |
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Dude is really horrible with in game adjustments. He over guess at times and don’t have the balls to tell his superstars off and make them accountable. He just letting them play and hoping that Lebron bails him out… Had a timeout at the end of 4th and they could have drawn up a play on the post for Lebron or AD but instead had Lebron settle for a long 3 in a tied game? |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:15 am Post subject: |
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What's the Lakers record this year with AD, Lebron and Westbrook playing together. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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miggz23 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:18 am Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | What's the Lakers record this year with AD, Lebron and Westbrook playing together. |
6-3 or 6-4 I think… |
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levon Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:18 am Post subject: |
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they don't have any clear direction on offense outside of one or two feeble screens and letting players iso. it's maddening to watch |
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