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Are you happy about Vogel becoming our coach?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:54 pm    Post subject:

If he can make this team play together with high responsibility and passion would be awesome. I think he is low profile coach which I like a lot. My only concern is Kidd on his staff.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:37 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
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He started a consulting business


Again, link?


VLF makes (bleep) up almost all the time. He's the biggest gas lighter in the history of sports forums



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:25 am    Post subject:

Love his interview. Seems like a great guy. His comments about Kuz and Lebron are great. I hope LBJ is thinking the same and that Vogel is his partner in crime here. That is probably the most important relationship in this squad.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:50 am    Post subject:

This guy is a mediocre coach. Baffling that he was hired
Why not bring in Tyrone Lue?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:03 am    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
Rubin wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
He started a consulting business


Again, link?


VLF makes (bleep) up almost all the time. He's the biggest gas lighter in the history of sports forums


Couldn't find anything about Ron Adam's consulting business per VLF's statement - but this did get tweeted out from Summer League on 7/6. Yep, that's a Warriors polo shirt, so looks like he hasn't made a move (yet).

https://twitter.com/SherwoodStrauss/status/1147718652185067521
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:58 am    Post subject:

KawhiIsGarbage wrote:
This guy is a mediocre coach. Baffling that he was hired
Why not bring in Tyrone Lue?


Ty did not agree to the terms that were offered, that disqualified
him. Seems Ty overplayed his hand, he's not that much either.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:19 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
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so no word on more assistants joining the team? seems odd the coaching staff is not completely together yet
hope we add on some real specialists


Has Ron Adams given us a yes or no yet?


I'd like to know this as well.


It was a no. And with signing Rondo and Cousins and the FO micromanaging, I already feel sorry for Vogel.


Where did you see that he said no? Last I saw they were still talking
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:49 am    Post subject:

KawhiIsGarbage wrote:
This guy is a mediocre coach. Baffling that he was hired
Why not bring in Tyrone Lue?

TBH, I think Vogel might be better than Ty Lue. He seems able to do more with less, that's for sure. Now it remains to be seen what he can do with one genuine All-star, one ageing All-star, and some good depth. A key ingredient here will be LeBron's buy-in and whether he chooses to make this easy for Vogel or whether he chooses to make it hard for Vogel (for whatever reason: they might butt heads over schemes/usage, or he might just want to bring Kidd in as head coach, etc).

If you can't keep an open mind on Vogel and only want to moan about passing on Lue for other non-basketball reasons, we have an Official Piss & Moan Thread.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:30 am    Post subject:

Glad he said that the starting lineup has not been decided. the Lebron at PG position talk was odd. Even Vogel says he’s primary ball handler, but clearly he can and has done that from the forward position.

The other mentions of note were the benefit of having Boogie allows them to have 5 three point shooters on the floor because “that has has the most succes in the modern NBA.
Also still considers Rondo has a 2 way player providing offense and defense.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:24 am    Post subject:

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He was doing well until this.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:35 am    Post subject:

KawhiIsGarbage wrote:
This guy is a mediocre coach. Baffling that he was hired
Why not bring in Tyrone Lue?


Ty Lue was such a great option that he is currently still unemployed.

The only reason you hire Lue was to get him and then have Vogel as an assistant.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:40 am    Post subject:

Ty had issues with health and stress management. I'm not sure LA's environment s exactly the right fit for him.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:44 am    Post subject:

Ty had a lucky situation in Cleveland. I don't discount what he did, but if we replace Vogel with Ty during that time, they would still win the chip.

I think Frank will get more out of this squad than Ty would have. Bron has a lot of respect for Vogel from the Miami vs Pacers days, and this is key. Those saying Vogel won't make it through the season are spewing out nonsense. We'll be a top 3 seed, we'll beat the crap out of the Clippers in the playoffs and win the chip this year. Book it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:52 am    Post subject:

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Ty had a lucky situation in Cleveland. I don't discount what he did, but if we replace Vogel with Ty during that time, they would still win the chip.

I think Frank will get more out of this squad than Ty would have. Bron has a lot of respect for Vogel from the Miami vs Pacers days, and this is key. Those saying Vogel won't make it through the season are spewing out nonsense. We'll be a top 3 seed, we'll beat the crap out of the Clippers in the playoffs and win the chip this year. Book it.


You can't say they would still win the championship. L ol l. They barely won that one.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:05 am    Post subject:

He said they are pretty close to getting full staff

I'm excited to see who he adds to kidd, hollins and simmon
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:13 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
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Also still considers Rondo has a 2 way player providing offense and defense.


He was doing well until this.


Yeah, he must think it’s 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:16 am    Post subject:

[quote="CaCHooKa_Man"]

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:35 am    Post subject:

ssiknick833 wrote:
ocho wrote:
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Also still considers Rondo has a 2 way player providing offense and defense.


He was doing well until this.


Yeah, he must think it’s 2011


Well his style of play is from 1996 soooooo....
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:49 am    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
ssiknick833 wrote:
ocho wrote:
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Also still considers Rondo has a 2 way player providing offense and defense.


He was doing well until this.


Yeah, he must think it’s 2011


Well his style of play is from 1996 soooooo....

Lol, c'mon now... let's keep an open mind and wait to see how/what Vogel does when the season starts.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:49 am    Post subject:

He seems a decent fellow.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:54 am    Post subject:

LAL1947 wrote:
2019 wrote:
ssiknick833 wrote:
ocho wrote:
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Also still considers Rondo has a 2 way player providing offense and defense.


He was doing well until this.


Yeah, he must think it’s 2011


Well his style of play is from 1996 soooooo....

Lol, c'mon now... let's keep an open mind and wait to see how/what Vogel does when the season starts.


It's smart to get Rondo on his side early. He was one of the team leaders last season and will help Vogel communicate with the rest of the team. When people were starting to turn on Luke, Rondo was one of the guys who had his back and was defending him to the media.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:06 am    Post subject:

numero-ocho wrote:
LAL1947 wrote:
2019 wrote:
ssiknick833 wrote:
ocho wrote:
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Also still considers Rondo has a 2 way player providing offense and defense.


He was doing well until this.


Yeah, he must think it’s 2011


Well his style of play is from 1996 soooooo....

Lol, c'mon now... let's keep an open mind and wait to see how/what Vogel does when the season starts.


It's smart to get Rondo on his side early. He was one of the team leaders last season and will help Vogel communicate with the rest of the team. When people were starting to turn on Luke, Rondo was one of the guys who had his back and was defending him to the media.


That’s seems to be the norm here at Laker Gripe. No positive aura maybe walton’s Way of switch everything def is different from the def Vogel have u. Mind.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:06 am    Post subject:

LAL1947 wrote:
2019 wrote:
ssiknick833 wrote:
ocho wrote:
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Also still considers Rondo has a 2 way player providing offense and defense.


He was doing well until this.


Yeah, he must think it’s 2011


Well his style of play is from 1996 soooooo....

Lol, c'mon now... let's keep an open mind and wait to see how/what Vogel does when the season starts.


Laker coaches since phil have never went against the grain.

Brown was known for good defense/poor offense before joining the lakers. He never changed during his stint here.

The same for Dantoni but in the opposite of brown. Good offense/poor defense who needed specific players to fit his system.

Ditto for Byron. Everyone knew he sucked from his previous stints. Didn't change one bit right down to the being the ultimate "tank commander".

Even with Luke. His biggest criticism before joining the lakers were his rotations sucking even on the 73-warriors team. Warrior fans were livid at his poor rotations, which were was masked by all the winning. This turned out to be true on the lakers as well.

Frank says the right things but I remain skeptical, especially given his staff so far.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:42 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
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Also still considers Rondo has a 2 way player providing offense and defense.


He was doing well until this.


Vogel seems reasonable modern-minded so I have to imagine he said this because we’re still in the “everyone on our roster is amazing” sunshine and lollipops part of the offseason more so than that he actually believes Rondo is a 2-way player.

Heck Rondo isn’t even a 1-way player at this point.
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