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Lakers 4th Pick - Keep or Trade?
Keep & draft prospect
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Trade in package for AD
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Trade in package for Bradley Beal
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Trade in package for someone else
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:32 am    Post subject:

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I think the Pelicans are still going to try and be dicks about this and ask for most of our young core in addition to the pick. They will use NYK and others as leverage. I say keep the pick and try to sign a max FA.


This is pretty much what I was thinking. Pels aren't going to do us any favors 'cuz they don't have to. I fear we'd get short changed in any kind of deal for AD.


And I'm sure they're aware we're not going to do them any favors either.


They can be dicks but their leverage is not that high since AD is an expiring... they can screw both us and themselves by accepting lesser value package


They aren't going to do anything that doesn't do what they believe to benefit them most.

They aren't interested in screwing us, only serving themselves.

Hope you're right, Rumors the Pels owners don't like the Lakers


That may be the case. And the Celtics/Lakers hate each other but that hasn't stopped them from trading when it made sense for each team to do so.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:50 am    Post subject:

Been smoking that good stuff. How high is this trade?

Lakers trade: B. INGRAM, K. KUZMA, J. HART #4 PICK, FUTURE 1ST

for

Pelicans: #1 PICK, S. HILL
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 9:57 am    Post subject:

I still seriously doubt that NO trades us AD, even with the pick thrown in. I know demps isn’t there anymore, but I think he gets sent out east.

Draft the BPA, sign the best FA who will come...make a move for a Max Player on the trade market before next deadline if it makes sense. Right now an unhealthy BI and ZO are going to be tough to trade and get value for anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:20 am    Post subject:

Question is, does it have to be AD? Give up less and still get a young star? KAT? Bradley Beal?
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:30 am    Post subject:

HellCrowe wrote:
Question is, does it have to be AD? Give up less and still get a young star? KAT? Bradley Beal?



IF we get fixated on AD, we will certainly overpay badly; I mean
like giving up on the kids.

The FO needs to take a step back and consider the options, make some calls,
talk to other teams see what's out there. Kobe, LBJ & Magic will have to check
out what FA's will actually come, if any. Hopefully Linda doesn't screw up our
off season .

Seriously though, we need to have the whole picture because everything has
to do with everything.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:33 am    Post subject:

deal wrote:
HellCrowe wrote:
Question is, does it have to be AD? Give up less and still get a young star? KAT? Bradley Beal?



IF we get fixated on AD, we will certainly overpay badly; I mean
like giving up on the kids.

The FO needs to take a step back and consider the options, make some calls,
talk to other teams see what's out there. Kobe, LBJ & Magic will have to check
out what FA's will actually come, if any. Hopefully Linda doesn't screw up our
off season .

Seriously though, we need to have the whole picture because everything has
to do with everything.


I agree. We tried the all eggs in one basket thing. Other than making contracts work, we need to go in this with the “big balls” and not get fleeced.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:37 am    Post subject:

LakesGnrLake wrote:
Been smoking that good stuff. How high is this trade?

Lakers trade: B. INGRAM, K. KUZMA, J. HART #4 PICK, FUTURE 1ST

for

Pelicans: #1 PICK, S. HILL


Pelicans would trade us AD for McGee before they trade us the #1 pick for anyone. I'd try BI, Kuz, Hart, #4, future 1st (as you mentioned) for AD. Swap Lonzo for BI or Kuz if they want him. If they want more, they can (bleep) off; we'll draft Garland and take our chances with the other free agents this off-season.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:40 am    Post subject:

BadGuy wrote:
LakesGnrLake wrote:
Been smoking that good stuff. How high is this trade?

Lakers trade: B. INGRAM, K. KUZMA, J. HART #4 PICK, FUTURE 1ST

for

Pelicans: #1 PICK, S. HILL


Pelicans would trade us AD for McGee before they trade us the #1 pick for anyone. I'd try BI, Kuz, Hart, #4, future 1st (as you mentioned) for AD. Swap Lonzo for BI or Kuz if they want him. If they want more, they can (bleep) off; we'll draft Garland and take our chances with the other free agents this off-season.


Why would anyone want to trade for Zion with all that when he is not even proven he can play in the NBA. Talk about being high and dumb at the same time. Zion might be good, but you don't trade the farm for him. Just stupid.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:43 am    Post subject:

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I mean who wouldn’t love to get AD?

Depends what we need to give up.


That's it. Impossible to answer this question w/o a sense of the worth of the pick right now. Pels said first thing he was gonna do was investigate that.

I'd always like in my heart to get a new rook w/ a pick that high, but if we can get a good deal for AD or something else that helps us at more than one position, my brain will override the corazon. I don't wanna get bilked by the Pelicans because they think we owe em extra than any other swingin di-k would because they think we poisoned their well. Screw that. And I hope Pels/Rambii don't let Griffin string them along for too long. And the Lakers should cut cord at the first sign that they're gonna deal with them again like a TJ cab driver. That's even IF they decide to try again. I wouldn't lose sleep if they didn't.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:43 am    Post subject:

With all the dysfunction and not knowing how FA will turn out I think the only option is to trade for a young star. Hear me out. If we get the “next coming” of Kyrie or whatever comparison you want, he will be on the bench. We trade for Beal or KAT, we will be that much better and look more enticing to players this year and come next year (ahem... AD).
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 12:47 pm    Post subject:

anth2000 wrote:
BadGuy wrote:
LakesGnrLake wrote:
Been smoking that good stuff. How high is this trade?

Lakers trade: B. INGRAM, K. KUZMA, J. HART #4 PICK, FUTURE 1ST

for

Pelicans: #1 PICK, S. HILL


Pelicans would trade us AD for McGee before they trade us the #1 pick for anyone. I'd try BI, Kuz, Hart, #4, future 1st (as you mentioned) for AD. Swap Lonzo for BI or Kuz if they want him. If they want more, they can (bleep) off; we'll draft Garland and take our chances with the other free agents this off-season.


Why would anyone want to trade for Zion with all that when he is not even proven he can play in the NBA. Talk about being high and dumb at the same time. Zion might be good, but you don't trade the farm for him. Just stupid.



Midas well...if people stupid enough to want to give the farm for ad who is proven injury prone...3stars with nooooo support cast.great great

We don’t know if we can get a fa in this place soooo we give up our core for ad injury prone and when he goes down we back in the lottery...lol.


Best case scenario he stays healthy and golden state bounces us out of the playoffs wooiooooow. Great move...smh
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 1:01 pm    Post subject:

Unless they're planning to trade Lebron keeping this pick makes little sense.

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 1:04 pm    Post subject:

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Unless they're planing to trade Lebron keeping this pick makes little sense.


If they want a future after Lebron, keeping it makes sense and you tell him to get 1 max FA to come play with him if he can.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 1:52 pm    Post subject:

LBJ23 wrote:
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Unless they're planning to trade Lebron keeping this pick makes little sense.


If they want a future after Lebron, keeping it makes sense and you tell him to get 1 max FA to come play with him if he can.


Even with a second max FA + Lebron you need functional players around them. Unless a player the scouting dept is absolutely in love with is there to be had I would trade it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 2:14 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
Unless they're planning to trade Lebron keeping this pick makes little sense.


I disagree. It allows us to get a rotation player for cheap with future potential while maintaining as much cap space as possible. You trade the pick for equal value and it will cut into the available cap space.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 2:17 pm    Post subject:

i'd only trade for AD. if we strike out there, draft a nice young piece for the future and sign a max FA (kawhi, klay, kyrie)
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 2:22 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
LBJ23 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Unless they're planning to trade Lebron keeping this pick makes little sense.


If they want a future after Lebron, keeping it makes sense and you tell him to get 1 max FA to come play with him if he can.


Even with a second max FA + Lebron you need functional players around them. Unless a player the scouting dept is absolutely in love with is there to be had I would trade it.


You know you going to have to trade talent with that pick also and if they strike out in fa then I can tell you right now two stars going to send you back to the lottery or kicked out in the playoffs. Why can’t we grow our own stars?
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 3:58 pm    Post subject:

JustaObserver wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
BadGuy wrote:
LakesGnrLake wrote:
Been smoking that good stuff. How high is this trade?

Lakers trade: B. INGRAM, K. KUZMA, J. HART #4 PICK, FUTURE 1ST

for

Pelicans: #1 PICK, S. HILL


Pelicans would trade us AD for McGee before they trade us the #1 pick for anyone. I'd try BI, Kuz, Hart, #4, future 1st (as you mentioned) for AD. Swap Lonzo for BI or Kuz if they want him. If they want more, they can (bleep) off; we'll draft Garland and take our chances with the other free agents this off-season.


Why would anyone want to trade for Zion with all that when he is not even proven he can play in the NBA. Talk about being high and dumb at the same time. Zion might be good, but you don't trade the farm for him. Just stupid.



Midas well...if people stupid enough to want to give the farm for ad who is proven injury prone...3stars with nooooo support cast.great great

We don’t know if we can get a fa in this place soooo we give up our core for ad injury prone and when he goes down we back in the lottery...lol.


Best case scenario he stays healthy and golden state bounces us out of the playoffs wooiooooow. Great move...smh


Shaq
Kobe
Rick Fox
Lindsey Hunter
Samaki Walker

LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Dwyane Wade
Mario Chalmers
Joel Anthony

If the top 2 or 3 are good enough, the supporting cast can be minimum contract level specialists.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 5:02 pm    Post subject:

Dr. Laker wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
BadGuy wrote:
LakesGnrLake wrote:
Been smoking that good stuff. How high is this trade?

Lakers trade: B. INGRAM, K. KUZMA, J. HART #4 PICK, FUTURE 1ST

for

Pelicans: #1 PICK, S. HILL


Pelicans would trade us AD for McGee before they trade us the #1 pick for anyone. I'd try BI, Kuz, Hart, #4, future 1st (as you mentioned) for AD. Swap Lonzo for BI or Kuz if they want him. If they want more, they can (bleep) off; we'll draft Garland and take our chances with the other free agents this off-season.


Why would anyone want to trade for Zion with all that when he is not even proven he can play in the NBA. Talk about being high and dumb at the same time. Zion might be good, but you don't trade the farm for him. Just stupid.



Midas well...if people stupid enough to want to give the farm for ad who is proven injury prone...3stars with nooooo support cast.great great

We don’t know if we can get a fa in this place soooo we give up our core for ad injury prone and when he goes down we back in the lottery...lol.


Best case scenario he stays healthy and golden state bounces us out of the playoffs wooiooooow. Great move...smh


Shaq
Kobe
Rick Fox
Lindsey Hunter
Samaki Walker

LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Dwyane Wade
Mario Chalmers
Joel Anthony

If the top 2 or 3 are good enough, the supporting cast can be minimum contract level specialists.


Have you seen our "supporting" cast that played this year?....we're NOT good at freee age,cy..but we do one thing right and thats draft

by the way this team didnt win not 1 ring but 3 for 5 rings right...lol.
LeBron James
Chris Bosh
Dwyane Wade
Mario Chalmers
Joel Anthony

How about that nets team with Kg/Pierce/whoever.....how much that set the Nets back...heck they JUST NOW RECOVERING...lol
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 6:05 pm    Post subject:

75% of us want to trade the pick...
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:10 pm    Post subject:

unleasHell wrote:
75% of us want to trade the pick...


Yeah 75% of the Nets fans were prob estatic to trade their future too for KG and Pierce...and how do they feel now about that trade?

755 of fans are knee jerk reactionist...never look at the past to determine the future
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:14 pm    Post subject:

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75% of us want to trade the pick...


People trash the intellect of r/Lakers but I'm pretty sure if you polled them you'd get way less than 75% wanting to trade the pick.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 7:34 pm    Post subject:

I am not in favor of trading the pick draft a stud and get a free agent and get ready for the year
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:25 pm    Post subject:

In this order I’d rather #4 to be used:

- to trade down
- to trade for AD
- to trade for Beal or similar star power if that’s possible
- draft at #4
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:26 pm    Post subject:

Won't matter at this point. LeBronze won't get a single player to come play with him as the Lakers Organization is a massive festering boil on the ass of some amazing history. The Lakers will deal away every young player we have in hopes of finding what exactly? An old vet who is basically long past their prime. Maybe we can get Carmelo A or KD on the cheap side. I honestly don't care what we do anymore. So many bad years in a row and I (bleep) cannot even look at this team anymore. Any young talent we get, we trade it away for cap space which was not used last year and won't be used this year as well. We get rid of players who might have impacted our team for three point shooters who cannot hit a wide open three pointer. We have guys on the team who are D-League players and somehow we are suppose to think we got the inside track on an All Star?!? WE HAVE NO FUTURE WITH LEBRONZE! Zero chance to get to the playoffs and zero chance of convincing players to come join the Lakers. No HC will sacrifice their career to get gutted by the FO after one year of coaching. We still have a (bleep) staff that cannot keep injuries from plaguing this team. We are headed for a bottom that no Laker Fan has ever seen before. And if you think a new HC will fix this team up, think again. LeBronze will get "injured" again once it becomes obvious he has no players who want to play with him and could care less if he wins or loses. This year's team will make last years team look amazing in comparison. We are going to hit new lows this year and I hope that young core of players find a new home where they can thrive and win championships.
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