SAT to add secret "adversity scores" to account for student hardships

 
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 3:50 pm    Post subject: SAT to add secret "adversity scores" to account for student hardships

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/16/us/sat-score.html

that's gonna be a yikes from me, dog
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 4:03 pm    Post subject:

For some reason I just got a picture of a bunch of guys hanging out on the sidelines during football practice comparing their Adversity scores for street cred.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 4:08 pm    Post subject:

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For some reason I just got a picture of a bunch of guys hanging out on the sidelines during football practice comparing their Adversity scores for street cred.


SAT prep = some analogies, some trig, and a couple of dudes off of the street come inside and beat the (bleep) out of you
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 4:18 pm    Post subject:

thats dumb. Colleges already do this in the admissions process so no need to try to blend it into a test score.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 4:23 pm    Post subject:

Better than doing it based on skin color
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 4:34 pm    Post subject:

Fix the SAT's and then forgive all student loans! That will prepare minority students for the workforce!
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 5:01 pm    Post subject:

Yep. Colleges already weigh in the quality of each school wealth, opportunities for the applicant, and their economic status.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 6:36 pm    Post subject:

LakerLanny wrote:
Fix the SAT's and then forgive all student loans! That will prepare minority students for the workforce!


I say we just abolish college all together. Problem solved!
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 6:40 pm    Post subject:

Several of my high school classmates spent $3000 the summer before their junior year to get SAT prep. For most it improved their score by ~300 points.

I don't think this is the best solution but I can understand the reasoning.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 7:17 pm    Post subject:

Yeah, the concerning part is the lack of transparency on how they plan to use the information including how much weight “adversity” carries.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 7:48 pm    Post subject:

Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
For some reason I just got a picture of a bunch of guys hanging out on the sidelines during football practice comparing their Adversity scores for street cred.


SAT prep = some analogies, some trig, and a couple of dudes off of the street come inside and beat the (bleep) out of you



That must be the Ese portion.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 9:00 pm    Post subject:

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Yeah, the concerning part is the lack of transparency on how they plan to use the information including how much weight “adversity” carries.


This is the issue with these things....someone is deciding what is an adversity and what is not an adversity....and how much of an adversity something is....and trying to standardize that across millions of extremely different people with different experiences. Over time motives will become polluted, and it will end up being a way to justify putting their thumb on the scales for some more than others.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 9:43 pm    Post subject:

vanexelent wrote:
Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
For some reason I just got a picture of a bunch of guys hanging out on the sidelines during football practice comparing their Adversity scores for street cred.


SAT prep = some analogies, some trig, and a couple of dudes off of the street come inside and beat the (bleep) out of you



That must be the Ese portion.


lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:06 pm    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
Yeah, the concerning part is the lack of transparency on how they plan to use the information including how much weight “adversity” carries.

For sure. I think ideally you'd have a transparent, standardized adjustment but then it's not really obvious on what. Currently we punt it to the college adcoms but it's not clear to me that's a better solution since I think it'll be hard for them to get over, say, an 1100 for someone who took the SAT once on 3 hours sleep with zero prep because they watched over their 4 younger siblings. I just don't like that solution.

But if College Board leaves it as a black box... yikes. Gotta be transparent with this kind of thing.
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