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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 2:27 pm    Post subject: Lakers - Clippers (Media) Civil War

Alright.

I'm sick and tired of this. I wasn't going to speak out but I think it's time this gets floated.


Steve Ballmer.


I've been watching this situation unfold for the past few years. I've been paying a LOT of attention to the TIMING of reports. I've watched how the Lakers have had dirty laundry not just aired but DETAILED with no direct quotes from Lakers Officials.


Where are all of these sources coming from?
How is all of this leaking to the media on a daily basis?
How is LA Media suddenly so hostile to all things Lakers?


Steve Ballmer.
Worth 5 times the Lakers net worth.
Owns the Clippers.
Constantly hears "LA will always be a Lakers Town".

It's one thing for the Lakers to have a few missteps and then button up.
It's another for there to be all out war against the Lakers and their management in the media.


This seems like an orchestrated attempt by Ballmer to trash the Lakers. I'm not saying we don't deserve the criticism nor am I saying the info is false. I'm suggesting that this guy is doing his best with his considerable wealth to perpetrate a smear campaign that pulls the Lakers down to Donald Sterling type public perception and level the playing field in LA as far as Lakers Vs Clippers.


I'm not buying it.



No matter how dysfunctional and stupid our Front Office is, there is no reason for the Lakers to constantly be in the media at this time. Under Mitch, we were NOTORIOUSLY quiet about all moves. Pelinka RARELY makes public statements. Jeanie? Kurt? Linda? Jesse? Ryan West?

Stop and think about it. The LAKERS aren't in an internal power struggle! Why is so much being reported about the Lakers when the LAKERS aren't even making comments?


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 2:36 pm    Post subject:

The sign for me is when he hired Lee Jenkins as “special projects” or whatever they called it. Really smart of Ballmer to attack an iconic brand this way and tbh he has the hipster media types eating it up. Similar to Nets/Knicks.

Here is what scares me:

1. We have a guy running the Clippers who is worth more than anyone else in the league, let alone the Buss family. Kroenke has a lot of money, but he is more focused on the Rams, his son runs the nuggets and Denver isn’t as big FA destination as LA.

2. With comments like “Ballz” and those reactionary emails Jeanie has made in reference to Inglewood, etc. shows she is clearly overmatched.

Ballmer is smart to attack in the media and Jeanie has not shown she knows how to put out the fire (perceived or not) and counterattack Ballmer and the Clippers.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 6:38 pm    Post subject:

Hopefully the Lakers staff is using Linux.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 6:40 pm    Post subject:



Gets funnier by the hour.

This is all self-inflicted.

Ballz has better things to do.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 6:56 pm    Post subject:

Sorry but our franchise is just that bad rn.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 7:22 pm    Post subject:

This thread holds some valid points

Jimmy Butler
Kyrie Irving
Anthony Davis
Kawhi Leonard (allegedly)

All Want to be a Laker. so if they really do then we are the 1’s who are lead to believe that the franchise is a disaster and a circus show maybe just maybe everything isn’t as bad as thought.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 7:32 pm    Post subject:

Unless Balmer made Magic incompetent, Palinka a horses ass and Jeanie clueless then I'm gonna go with "self inflicted".
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 7:46 pm    Post subject:

Beir32 wrote:
Unless Balmer made Magic incompetent, Palinka a horses ass and Jeanie clueless then I'm gonna go with "self inflicted".


This. I'm all for conspiracy theories since people usually do conspire. However, since we have Magic going on record multiple times now without any instigation from Ballmer, I think it safe to say that Ballmer doesn't have to do anything other than watch the Lakers self-destruct. Moreover, I'm not sure why anyone finds it hard to believe that team run entirely on nepotism and which has missed the playoffs for six seasons running while compiling the worst record in the league in that span might actually be an incompetently run organization. Recall that the drama and backstabbing started years ago when Jeanie went to the media to talk trash about her brother and Mitch. Ballmer had nothing to do with that.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:27 pm    Post subject:

Self inflicted Ballmer may be a marketing guy who help change the narrative but we're doing this without his help.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:32 pm    Post subject:

The irony. The Lakers have become the PC/Windows to the Clippers' Apple.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:39 pm    Post subject:

pjiddy wrote:
The irony. The Lakers have become the PC/Windows to the Clippers' Apple.


good luck gaming on a mac
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 9:38 pm    Post subject:

Hero Ball wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
The irony. The Lakers have become the PC/Windows to the Clippers' Apple.


good luck gaming on a mac


I like my windows 10
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 9:42 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Hero Ball wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
The irony. The Lakers have become the PC/Windows to the Clippers' Apple.


good luck gaming on a mac


I like my windows 10


Yup - Macs are only good when they have a Windows emulator.
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 9:49 pm    Post subject:

Dr. Laker wrote:
epak wrote:
Hero Ball wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
The irony. The Lakers have become the PC/Windows to the Clippers' Apple.


good luck gaming on a mac


I like my windows 10


Yup - Macs are only good when they have a Windows emulator.


Windows can Hackintosh
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 9:53 pm    Post subject:

Interesting theory. However, Ballmer didn't make Jeanie owner or hire Magic and Pelinka.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 4:47 am    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
This thread holds some valid points

Jimmy Butler
Kyrie Irving
Anthony Davis
Kawhi Leonard (allegedly)

All Want to be a Laker. so if they really do then we are the 1’s who are lead to believe that the franchise is a disaster and a circus show maybe just maybe everything isn’t as bad as thought.


Everyone says they want to be a laker. Let's see it happen before using it as an argument
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 5:38 am    Post subject: Re: Lakers - Clippers (Media) Civil War

GameCock-MD wrote:
No matter how dysfunctional and stupid our Front Office is, there is no reason for the Lakers to constantly be in the media at this time. Under Mitch, we were NOTORIOUSLY quiet about all moves. Pelinka RARELY makes public statements. Jeanie? Kurt? Linda? Jesse? Ryan West?

Stop and think about it. The LAKERS aren't in an internal power struggle! Why is so much being reported about the Lakers when the LAKERS aren't even making comments?

Steve Ballmer

I'm with you on the first paragraph, Pelinka and Co are usually tight-lipped and we're seeing that even now after Magic left. They've not made any comments about his comments and are apparently taking the high-road.

Aside from today's article in ESPN, i.e., for the last couple of weeks, it's been Magic (either through his previous leaks, or through his interview) who gave the media a ton of ammo. There might be some stuff that Ballmer and the Clippers are responsible for but... in trying to recall all the stuff talked about in the media over the past year... here's how I'd break it down:

40% - Self-inflicted:
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5% - Signing LeBron when he clearly didn't fit in with the team we'd assembled or with their time-line.
5% - Luke and his coaching staff.
5% - LeBron not buying into Luke. Rich Paul is even alleged to have said something negative about Luke to Adam Silver. Not sure if this last story is true but I don't think we can deny that LeBron wasn't into Luke and didn't help make his job easier.
10% - Magic/LeBron wanting to trade everyone for AD, which isn't a crime in itself... but they didn't get it done, which resulted in negative press. Eg: the Pels took it badly because of how it went down and reacted with spite releasing details to the media. Then the team took it badly after details of the trade become public knowledge, which impacted results for awhile.
5% - The Rambii meddling where they shouldn't be.
10% - Magic creating drama with his quitting and 1st interview.

30% - Media:
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20% - The media being their muppet selves, i.e., click-bait driven imps for whom anything Lakers-related is big draw.
5% - Additional spotlight and scrutiny placed on the Lakers simply because LeBron is here. It was the same when he was in CLE or MIA.
5% - Certain media people have a bad case of Laker-envy because of the teams they are affiliated with and create false narratives that impact our image.

20% - Results:
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If we'd made the playoffs and/or were playing well during the regular season... we'd be listening to the sounds of crickets chirping.

5% - Clippers
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2.5% - Ballmer and the Clippers pushing themselves as an FA destination for the same FAs we're targeting (nothing wrong with that) then reflects badly on us given all of the above.
2.5% - Did he have anything to do with today's ESPN hit-piece though? Undecided.

5% - Unknown
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Is there stuff being put out there on purpose to engineer a sale? I mean, by discrediting Jeanie and/or engineering a situation where she and one of her three younger Buss siblings decide it would be best to sell?


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 5:46 am    Post subject:

Don Draper wrote:
Interesting theory. However, Ballmer didn't make Jeanie owner or hire Magic and Pelinka.


Yup. We didn't need any help to create this dumpster fire.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 6:22 am    Post subject:

well this wouldnt explain Magic quiting and doing interviews blasting the Lakers or Jeanie acting clueless.
But I do feel theres a brigade of anti-Laker media personnel who are spinning stuff to look worse than what it really is
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 6:26 am    Post subject:

This is on Jeanie Buss.

The fact on Ballmer is he's just kicking our ass. One reason for that is that he had the wisdom to hire Jerry West, something that keeps eluding Jeanie for some reason.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 6:31 am    Post subject:

Only if you believe Steve Ballmer somehow entered Magic's mind and incepted him to keep going to the media talk things over about his exit from the FO.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 6:38 am    Post subject:

I go with 95% self-inflicted and 5% Ballmer.

It’s smart. You should always be looking to make your competitor look bad...wish the Lakers were capable of doing the same, but they can’t even get their own house in order.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 6:43 am    Post subject:

CabinCreek44 wrote:
This is on Jeanie Buss.

The fact on Ballmer is he's just kicking our ass. One reason for that is that he had the wisdom to hire Jerry West, something that keeps eluding Jeanie for some reason.

In what exactly?
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 3:35 pm    Post subject:

trablos wrote:
CabinCreek44 wrote:
This is on Jeanie Buss.

The fact on Ballmer is he's just kicking our ass. One reason for that is that he had the wisdom to hire Jerry West, something that keeps eluding Jeanie for some reason.

In what exactly?


Well since 2014-15, when Ballmer first became their owner, the Clippers have won 114 more games than we have, an average of 22.8 more wins per season, and have only missed the playoffs once during that span while we have not been there since 2012-13. So there’s that.
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 3:48 pm    Post subject:

CabinCreek44 wrote:
trablos wrote:
CabinCreek44 wrote:
This is on Jeanie Buss.

The fact on Ballmer is he's just kicking our ass. One reason for that is that he had the wisdom to hire Jerry West, something that keeps eluding Jeanie for some reason.

In what exactly?


Well since 2014-15, when Ballmer first became their owner, the Clippers have won 114 more games than we have, an average of 22.8 more wins per season, and have only missed the playoffs once during that span while we have not been there since 2012-13. So there’s that.

I can't wait until they unveil the "114 More Wins Than The Lakers Since 14-15" banner next season on opening night. That'll finally put these franchises on equal footing.
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