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venturalakersfan
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | I seriously doubt AD is leaving, why you guys entertain the notion is beyond me lol..
I also don't believe we'll have trouble finding top tier talent to pair with him when Bron exits.
AD is the kind of guy other stars can mesh with. He's not an alpha, and he doesn't have an ego. Not to mention this is LA baby.. I don't anticipate us having a rebuild after Bron is gone. |
This is LA baby got us two top FAs in 22 years |
Wrong as always |
Who were the others?
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | I seriously doubt AD is leaving, why you guys entertain the notion is beyond me lol..
I also don't believe we'll have trouble finding top tier talent to pair with him when Bron exits.
AD is the kind of guy other stars can mesh with. He's not an alpha, and he doesn't have an ego. Not to mention this is LA baby.. I don't anticipate us having a rebuild after Bron is gone. |
This is LA baby got us two top FAs in 22 years |
Wrong as always |
KCP + Chris Kaman + Vlad Rad + Steve Black
Who were the others? |
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| BigBallerBrand wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | I seriously doubt AD is leaving, why you guys entertain the notion is beyond me lol..
I also don't believe we'll have trouble finding top tier talent to pair with him when Bron exits.
AD is the kind of guy other stars can mesh with. He's not an alpha, and he doesn't have an ego. Not to mention this is LA baby.. I don't anticipate us having a rebuild after Bron is gone. |
This is LA baby got us two top FAs in 22 years |
Wrong as always |
KCP + Chris Kaman + Vlad Rad + Steve Black
Who were the others? |
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Significant free agents Lakers signed in my lifetime as a fan
Magic late 80s (lifetime contract from Dr Buss)
Shaq 1996
Payton 2003
Malone 2003
Kobe 2004 (re-signing Kobe was huge)
Artest 2009
Lebron 2018 |
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mad55557777
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | I seriously doubt AD is leaving, why you guys entertain the notion is beyond me lol..
I also don't believe we'll have trouble finding top tier talent to pair with him when Bron exits.
AD is the kind of guy other stars can mesh with. He's not an alpha, and he doesn't have an ego. Not to mention this is LA baby.. I don't anticipate us having a rebuild after Bron is gone. |
This is LA baby got us two top FAs in 22 years |
Dwight Howard is the only super star left the lakers via free agency, and we got 5 championships in 22 years. I thought you said you know basketball? If you are talking about free agent signing, yes, only 2, Shaq and lebron. How many years we really had space to sign any? |
FA = free agent |
By your definition, Kobe was a FA too, so Kobe, shaq and lebron are the 3 significant top FA signings. Who has more during the same spun(I did your homework for you, the Miami heat has Lebron, Bosh, and butler, and we all know why the super friends team up)? The dark years were 2013-2018, but other than those 5 years, when did we ever need or have cap space to sign a FA?
Malone /Payton count? |
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epic_
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | Significant free agents Lakers signed in my lifetime as a fan
Magic late 80s (lifetime contract from Dr Buss)
Shaq 1996
Payton 2003
Malone 2003
Kobe 2004 (re-signing Kobe was huge)
Artest 2009
Lebron 2018 |
And shout out to:
Brian Shaw
Rick Fox
Derek Fisher (round 2)
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| I just want to say, I won’t cry if Davis signed a 1+1 then left. There’s something magical about the Lakers and their fans. Something magical about the purple and gold. As fans, we ain’t going no where. In it for life. |
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| I think its more who you have to attract potential FA's. AD is is good enough to attract anyone basically. I am not afraid at all about his extension and future FA. He likes LA, LA likes him. He can make tons of money. Its perfect ground for him and his business. Also its on him to bring some FA also. Its not all on Lakers. |
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| blackmamba08 wrote: | | I think its more who you have to attract potential FA's. AD is is good enough to attract anyone basically. I am not afraid at all about his extension and future FA. He likes LA, LA likes him. He can make tons of money. Its perfect ground for him and his business. Also its on him to bring some FA also. Its not all on Lakers. |
Based on...?
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epic_
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | I seriously doubt AD is leaving, why you guys entertain the notion is beyond me lol..
I also don't believe we'll have trouble finding top tier talent to pair with him when Bron exits.
AD is the kind of guy other stars can mesh with. He's not an alpha, and he doesn't have an ego. Not to mention this is LA baby.. I don't anticipate us having a rebuild after Bron is gone. |
This is LA baby got us two top FAs in 22 years |
Wrong as always |
Who were the others? |
For clarity, are the 2 you're referring to Luol Deng and Timofey Mozgov?
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JM
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | Significant free agents Lakers signed in my lifetime as a fan
Magic late 80s (lifetime contract from Dr Buss)
Shaq 1996
Payton 2003
Malone 2003
Kobe 2004 (re-signing Kobe was huge)
Artest 2009
Lebron 2018 |
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Payton was a washout as was Malone. In my lifetime Michael Thompson and Bob McAdoo, Jabbar and Wilt were big-time signings. |
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LandsbergerRules
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| JM wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Significant free agents Lakers signed in my lifetime as a fan
Magic late 80s (lifetime contract from Dr Buss)
Shaq 1996
Payton 2003
Malone 2003
Kobe 2004 (re-signing Kobe was huge)
Artest 2009
Lebron 2018 |
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Payton was a washout as was Malone. In my lifetime Michael Thompson and Bob McAdoo, Jabbar and Wilt were big-time signings. |
Mychal and McAdoo were such pivotal role players for their championship squads. 
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| AD was great last night. He was aggressive throughout. I really think Collison would be a perfect PG pairing with him. He can run the PnR while also spacing the floor and creating gravity. AD continues to get doubled by Rondo’s guy. |
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| AD is shooting a ridiculous 57% from the right corner and 40% from the middle area from 3. He should be taking 4-6 3s per game from those area. Get some easy points instead of going for lobs etc.. those plays are dangerous for regular season |
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We need to keep ADs mindset to be aggressive and score. AD has the mid-range and post game. He has the outside game, and of course he has the ability to get on the move and score coming off the ball at the rim.
But he needs that mindset that I am the go to guy #1 scorer on this team, on a consistent basis. In general I find him to be a pretty aggressive player, but come playoffs he has to play with a killer instinct. He does it on D, he has it. On offense he has it in him too, but it's still coming on, sometimes he is not as aggressive as you would like him to be.
Would also help if we can get AD some more help when Lebron sits. Rondo is great at getting him the ball, but not really creating shots for him. If we can get someone else that can come in and get AD some shots it would allow AD to become even more dominant. You see in the Blazer game, after a strong 1st Q, he was somewhat able to be contained. That is because he's a guy you have to set up.
Dame can create for himself as a guard outside. With AD, when he is on like he was in that 1st Q, you have to keep finding ways to get him the ball. That was a game I think AD could have matched Lillard in scoring if we were able to keep going to him. We need some help in this area. |
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| scout0_0 wrote: | | AD is shooting a ridiculous 57% from the right corner and 40% from the middle area from 3. He should be taking 4-6 3s per game from those area. Get some easy points instead of going for lobs etc.. those plays are dangerous for regular season |
If you know that. Other teams know that
Easier said than done |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | We need to keep ADs mindset to be aggressive and score. AD has the mid-range and post game. He has the outside game, and of course he has the ability to get on the move and score coming off the ball at the rim.
But he needs that mindset that I am the go to guy #1 scorer on this team, on a consistent basis. In general I find him to be a pretty aggressive player, but come playoffs he has to play with a killer instinct. He does it on D, he has it. On offense he has it in him too, but it's still coming on, sometimes he is not as aggressive as you would like him to be.
Would also help if we can get AD some more help when Lebron sits. Rondo is great at getting him the ball, but not really creating shots for him. If we can get someone else that can come in and get AD some shots it would allow AD to become even more dominant. You see in the Blazer game, after a strong 1st Q, he was somewhat able to be contained. That is because he's a guy you have to set up.
Dame can create for himself as a guard outside. With AD, when he is on like he was in that 1st Q, you have to keep finding ways to get him the ball. That was a game I think AD could have matched Lillard in scoring if we were able to keep going to him. We need some help in this area. |
AD Collison PnR as the bread and butter for the second unit would be devastating. They would work so well together because Collison can set his feet and launch a 3 with the best of them, strong midrange game from 10 feet to the three and he can also finish well. He can also get AD the ball in the right spots while spreading the floor. He would do wonders to AD's game especially when Bron is out. |
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| NBALakerLegends wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | We need to keep ADs mindset to be aggressive and score. AD has the mid-range and post game. He has the outside game, and of course he has the ability to get on the move and score coming off the ball at the rim.
But he needs that mindset that I am the go to guy #1 scorer on this team, on a consistent basis. In general I find him to be a pretty aggressive player, but come playoffs he has to play with a killer instinct. He does it on D, he has it. On offense he has it in him too, but it's still coming on, sometimes he is not as aggressive as you would like him to be.
Would also help if we can get AD some more help when Lebron sits. Rondo is great at getting him the ball, but not really creating shots for him. If we can get someone else that can come in and get AD some shots it would allow AD to become even more dominant. You see in the Blazer game, after a strong 1st Q, he was somewhat able to be contained. That is because he's a guy you have to set up.
Dame can create for himself as a guard outside. With AD, when he is on like he was in that 1st Q, you have to keep finding ways to get him the ball. That was a game I think AD could have matched Lillard in scoring if we were able to keep going to him. We need some help in this area. |
AD Collison PnR as the bread and butter for the second unit would be devastating. They would work so well together because Collison can set his feet and launch a 3 with the best of them, strong midrange game from 10 feet to the three and he can also finish well. He can also get AD the ball in the right spots while spreading the floor. He would do wonders to AD's game especially when Bron is out. |
Collison will mainly create midrange looks, jumpers there (maybe floaters as well for AD) .. He takes 2.5-3 threes a game(in more mins than he’ll probably get w us) so he’s not shooting a lot of 3s |
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Seems to be moving a lot better.
Glad the booty is feeling better.
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Yeah, but he’ll be as useless here as he was in NOLA if we don’t surround him with an elite wing and an elite point guard. |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | I seriously doubt AD is leaving, why you guys entertain the notion is beyond me lol..
I also don't believe we'll have trouble finding top tier talent to pair with him when Bron exits.
AD is the kind of guy other stars can mesh with. He's not an alpha, and he doesn't have an ego. Not to mention this is LA baby.. I don't anticipate us having a rebuild after Bron is gone. |
This is LA baby got us two top FAs in 22 years |
Wrong as always |
What is wrong? Name me the other super stars "in their prime." You can go back 40 yrs. Shaq and Bron has been the only mega stars to walk here. This is one aspect of the media bashing of Mitch and Jim that was unfair. They implied super stars came here all the time for West and Dr. Buss, but nobody wants to come for Mitch and Jim. And they always omit to name these imaginary super stars. |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | Significant free agents Lakers signed in my lifetime as a fan
Magic late 80s (lifetime contract from Dr Buss)
Shaq 1996
Payton 2003
Malone 2003
Kobe 2004 (re-signing Kobe was huge)
Artest 2009
Lebron 2018 |
Larry Drew 1990. Magic Johnson's first natural back-up point guard. |
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