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rock0100
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| YSong wrote: | My top 2 are... if they’re willing to take a cut pay cut
Darren Collison - steady vet that can hit the 3 still can play some D and is a Cali guy
Pat Beverly - need I say more, he just does all the dirty work |
I HATE Beverly! He annoys me every time we play him.
That being said, he is the BEST choice by a mile. That is the type of bulldog Lebron, Davis and Kuzma need. |
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| 3baller wrote: | | Daphanabe wrote: | | If we get Kawhi, this is what would worry me the most (not that we’d have anything to worry about with 3 of the top 5 guys; but still). Who can we realistically get for the room exception? The most common names above all sound unrealistic at that amount. |
At room exception, we'll probably have no option for a starting PG outside of D.Rose(maybe) and Rondo. We'll likely end up with Rondo. I won't be thrilled but that's a small price to pay for Kawhi. |
Rose I think will command the full MLE at least and Rondo looked cooked. Really slim pickings. Maybe Seth Curry, but not even sure he’d be available at that price. |
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| Daphanabe wrote: | | 3baller wrote: | | Daphanabe wrote: | | If we get Kawhi, this is what would worry me the most (not that we’d have anything to worry about with 3 of the top 5 guys; but still). Who can we realistically get for the room exception? The most common names above all sound unrealistic at that amount. |
At room exception, we'll probably have no option for a starting PG outside of D.Rose(maybe) and Rondo. We'll likely end up with Rondo. I won't be thrilled but that's a small price to pay for Kawhi. |
Rose I think will command the full MLE at least and Rondo looked cooked. Really slim pickings. Maybe Seth Curry, but not even sure he’d be available at that price. |
Rose would scare me. Even in his supposed comeback season, he lost 30 games to injuries. I wouldn't offer him anything more than the minimum. |
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a2j1m
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| Alex Caruso and Patrick Beverley. I wouldn’t be mad at Rondo either |
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Lakerlover89
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Collison or Beverly. anyone but Rondo |
Normally I would agree but you remember what Rondo and AD did to Portland two years ago? That might not be a horrible combination. That being said, I would prefer to look elsewhere first though. Collison or Pat would be nice. |
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hdtvset
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Kobe?  |
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| hdtvset wrote: | | Kobe? |
Hahahaha NO
Kobe to AD — “I want you to be my Kevon Looney” |
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Peoples Hernandez
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The more and more I think about it, bringing back D'Lo makes sense. Call me crazy here but man, I think that would work in a perfect world.
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| Peoples Hernandez wrote: | | The more and more I think about it, bringing back D'Lo makes sense. Call me crazy here but man, I think that would work in a perfect world. |
Ball dominant, high usage, and poor defensively.
A Josh Hart type on the cheap is all you need now. |
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| a2j1m wrote: | | Alex Caruso and Patrick Beverley. I wouldn’t be mad at Rondo either |
Beverley is very interesting.
Holy hell, no Rondo. |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | Peoples Hernandez wrote: | | The more and more I think about it, bringing back D'Lo makes sense. Call me crazy here but man, I think that would work in a perfect world. |
Ball dominant, high usage, and poor defensively.
A Josh Hart type on the cheap is all you need now. |
I rather not have Bron's usage be that high at this stage - AD needs a lot of setting up.... |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | Peoples Hernandez wrote: | | The more and more I think about it, bringing back D'Lo makes sense. Call me crazy here but man, I think that would work in a perfect world. |
Ball dominant, high usage, and poor defensively.
A Josh Hart type on the cheap is all you need now. |
I rather not have Bron's usage be that high at this stage - AD needs a lot of setting up.... |
We're still entertaining this idea that Lebron's changing his game to be more off the ball? |
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818fan
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| greenfrog wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | Peoples Hernandez wrote: | | The more and more I think about it, bringing back D'Lo makes sense. Call me crazy here but man, I think that would work in a perfect world. |
Ball dominant, high usage, and poor defensively.
A Josh Hart type on the cheap is all you need now. |
I rather not have Bron's usage be that high at this stage - AD needs a lot of setting up.... |
We're still entertaining this idea that Lebron's changing his game to be more off the ball? |
Yeah, while playing the 5 full time. |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | Peoples Hernandez wrote: | | The more and more I think about it, bringing back D'Lo makes sense. Call me crazy here but man, I think that would work in a perfect world. |
Ball dominant, high usage, and poor defensively.
A Josh Hart type on the cheap is all you need now. |
I rather not have Bron's usage be that high at this stage - AD needs a lot of setting up.... |
We're still entertaining this idea that Lebron's changing his game to be more off the ball? |
it's not just that; but Lebron has never been a guy that hits vertical spacers much... A PG who can get AD the ball would help ADs game a lot |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | Peoples Hernandez wrote: | | The more and more I think about it, bringing back D'Lo makes sense. Call me crazy here but man, I think that would work in a perfect world. |
Ball dominant, high usage, and poor defensively.
A Josh Hart type on the cheap is all you need now. |
I rather not have Bron's usage be that high at this stage - AD needs a lot of setting up.... |
We're still entertaining this idea that Lebron's changing his game to be more off the ball? |
it's not just that; but Lebron has never been a guy that hits vertical spacers much... A PG who can get AD the ball would help ADs game a lot |
I'm confident Lebron can get AD the ball well enough. The elephant in the room once again is off the ball shooting and defense. |
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alleyoop
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Collison or Beverley would be the ideal PGs on the cheap. Rose would be even better if we're able to get someone like Rubio or the two mentioned as backups.
Personally I'd think Collison is most realistic, as he's a Cali native and might come here for a little less, at least. Beverley I don't think switches to the enemy, and Rose I don't think will want to play with Bron again |
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lakersboi1993
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| 1 P Bev 2 D collision hopefully one of them is the starting point guard next year P Bev would be a huge pick up if he not still salty the Lakers traded him |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | Peoples Hernandez wrote: | | The more and more I think about it, bringing back D'Lo makes sense. Call me crazy here but man, I think that would work in a perfect world. |
Ball dominant, high usage, and poor defensively.
A Josh Hart type on the cheap is all you need now. |
I rather not have Bron's usage be that high at this stage - AD needs a lot of setting up.... |
19 FGA at below average efficiency? For 27M that’s a pass for me. BI and Kuz shot better than him overall. Besides, it’s unlikely Dlo’s coming back.
If Malcolm Brogdon can be had for 15-17M, that’s someone I wish we’d turn our sights to if we whiff on Kawhi, Kyrie and possibly Butler. He’s the same age as AD. Young and cheap enough for 15.5ppg 4.5 rebs 3 apg at elite level efficiency at 50/42/92 splits. Only 20% usage, perfect complimentary piece to Bron and AD. Decent defender too.
Get P Bev or Collison for 10M and we’d still have 5M-7M left to spend for a center.
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| 3baller wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | Peoples Hernandez wrote: | | The more and more I think about it, bringing back D'Lo makes sense. Call me crazy here but man, I think that would work in a perfect world. |
Ball dominant, high usage, and poor defensively.
A Josh Hart type on the cheap is all you need now. |
I rather not have Bron's usage be that high at this stage - AD needs a lot of setting up.... |
19 FGA at below average efficiency? For 27M that’s a pass for me. BI and Kuz shot better than him overall. Besides, it’s unlikely Dlo’s coming back.
If Malcolm Brogdon can be had for 15-17M, that’s someone I wish we’d turn our sights to if we whiff on Kawhi, Kyrie and possibly Butler. He’s the same age as AD. Young and cheap enough for 15.5ppg 4.5 rebs 3 apg at elite level efficiency at 50/42/92 splits. Only 20% usage, perfect complimentary piece to Bron and AD. Decent defender too. |
I'm not maxing Dlo. no. Brogdon would be a great get as well. he'll probably take 20-22M to pry away from MIL, but he's really good and has a chance to be worth close to that. I'd be ecstatic at either |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| alleyoop wrote: | Collison or Beverley would be the ideal PGs on the cheap. Rose would be even better if we're able to get someone like Rubio or the two mentioned as backups.
Personally I'd think Collison is most realistic, as he's a Cali native and might come here for a little less, at least. Beverley I don't think switches to the enemy, and Rose I don't think will want to play with Bron again |
Can either shoot off the ball ? Corner 3s when open? |
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If Kyrie signs in BK, bring back the young fella.
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | Would Rubio ring chase for the Room Exception? |
Rubio is a terrible fit next to Lebron. Ala Lonzo(not saying that Lonzo is going to be Rubio but they are similar players) |
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alleyoop
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| Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| AllorNothing wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | Collison or Beverley would be the ideal PGs on the cheap. Rose would be even better if we're able to get someone like Rubio or the two mentioned as backups.
Personally I'd think Collison is most realistic, as he's a Cali native and might come here for a little less, at least. Beverley I don't think switches to the enemy, and Rose I don't think will want to play with Bron again |
Can either shoot off the ball ? Corner 3s when open? |
Both their catch and shoot percentages last season very good (Collison 44%, Beverley 41%), which would obviously work well in a LeBron system (I reckon Vogel would love having them, too) |
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Probably far too much bad blood but Dlo all day, every day.
He's an absolute perfect fit for this team.
Doesnt need the ball in his hands to be successful and is a knock down shooter.
Young enough to grow with Kuz and AD and has gained a tremendous amount of experience.
Doesnt shy from the big moment and would flourish playing with this current squad.
Truly a perfect fit.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:04 am Post subject: Re: With AD here, which point guard do we sign? |
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| JamaalWilkes wrote: | Kyrie Irving?
Kemba Walker?
Patrick Beverly? |
Unlikely:
Patrick Beverly most likely stays with Clippers.
Kemba most likely takes a cut and resigns with the Hornets
Kyrie Irving most likely goes to the Nets. ROC sports ownership
DLO back to the Nets if they don't get Kyrie
Most likely:
Darren Collison (my first choice)
Elfrid Payton (The Pelicans don't need him now that they have Lonzo, and Jrue)
D. Rose |
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