Is there any doubt now that Pelinka is a great GM?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:46 am    Post subject:

Hate all these negative comments. Pelinka filled this roster properly with depth, vet, shooting, toughness, Def and youth.

Shooting - Green, Cook, Dudley, Daniel, KCP

Toughness - DC, Bradley, Green, Rondo, Dudley

Def - Caruso, Bradley, Green, McGee, KCP

Youth - Kuz, Cook, AD, Caruso, Bradley, DC, THT, Norvell, Daniel, KCP

Vet - Green, Dudley, Rondo, LBJ, McGee

All I heard throughout the Kawhi scam sweepstake is we are losing on building this team roster. I could not be happier on how Pelinka did not panic and have a plan in place to fill this balance roster. If we can get Iggy as a vet/def/toughness I would be more ecstatic but right now I a very happy with the roster construction.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:52 am    Post subject:

Going after Kawhi was a must - had they not made the effort, everyone would've torched the FO.

The way they've rebounded has been EXCELLENT!

It has been thoughtful & purposeful, mixing the right skill sets and temperaments.

I'm good with letting the Clippers be the frontrunners - let our guys come into the season with chips on their shoulders instead of targets on their backs.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:43 pm    Post subject:

In contrast Mitch Kupchak's Charlotte Hornets was a loser:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27143232/winners-losers-wildest-nba-week-ever
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:03 pm    Post subject:

This settles it for me...yes no question. And Mr. Pelinka had to do it with one hand tied behind his back coming off what happend with Magic.

It was strange at first with 15mil/yr for Green and 8mil/yr for KCP. But then Mr. Pelinka went into Jedi mode:
Cousins min
McGee min
Rondo min
Cook min
Daniels min
Dudley min

Then signed Bradley for what could be considered below market value. How did Mr. Pelinka do it!!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:06 pm    Post subject:

JerryWest_44 wrote:
In contrast Mitch Kupchak's Charlotte Hornets was a loser:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27143232/winners-losers-wildest-nba-week-ever


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:13 pm    Post subject:

Artest4Three wrote:
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Lakers FO got played by Kawhi...no doubt.

With all the moves Kawhi was making behind the scenes (pushing for Durant, George, etc), that fact the Lakers were oblivious, tells me the Lakers are not as well connected as they should be.

Maybe that falls partly on Pelinka's reputation or just that no team wants to help the Lakers or the animosity of some teams toward the Lakers (Popovich, Cuban, etc).

Kudos to Pelinka for getting the best players available at the bottom of the barrel after Kawhi's con-job played out.

Our front court is, most likely, the best in the NBA. Pelinka added plenty of shooting. What I would like to see is a rugged player like Iggy joining the team. That would be a very good match-up addition.

The whole world was oblivious to that. If our GM's biggest problem is that he doesn't know about secret negotiations between other teams, I'll take it. We obviously had a no Kawhi scenario and executed as soon as we got the news.


Are these talks really as secretive as we make them out to be? Go look what Bobby Portis said today. He said KD and Kyrie wanting to join up wasn't a secret and the rest of the league knew about it. If Kawhi was making calls to KD and Butler begging them to join him on the Clips, I'd imagine word would have to get out somehow. The fact that our FO couldn't sniff it out is puzzling to me.


Our FO may have known that Clips were KL 1st choice but still waited, hoping they could convince him or that Clips would strike out in bring a 2nd star in.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:14 pm    Post subject:

I think he has done a nice job, If he gets Iggy A for the off season. Lets see how THT turns out as well. He really had a good back up plan in my opinion. If Cousins hits the off season will be an A+
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:20 pm    Post subject:

What is going unnoticed is that we have been maximizing our dollars spent on our roster. The majority of your dollars should go to your superstars, and as little as possible to your role players. We didn't give out huge overpays that other teams did. We've essentially eliminated the midrange jumper of contracts in building a team with superstars and great role players. This is exellent cap management any way you look at it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:50 pm    Post subject:

He's done a pretty good job rounding out the roster. I was afraid how we would fill out the team given last offseason's disaster signings, but it seems like he either learned from his mistakes, or Magic was the one advocating those horrible deals. I'm actually pretty happy with how the offseason has gone given we missed out on our Plan A.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:07 pm    Post subject:

He obviously had to ask some of these guys to wait while the Kawhi situation shook out, so it's a pretty nice job on his part to work that out and have things lined up the way he did.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:14 pm    Post subject:

Lack of wing defenders going to hurt. Jonathon Simmons wouldve been a better option or jaymychael green. We badly need iggy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:48 pm    Post subject:

Should be noted that of last Summer's much maligned signings, Pelinka brought 3 out of 5 of them back.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:00 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
Should be noted that of last Summer's much maligned signings, Pelinka brought 3 out of 5 of them back.


Lance and Beasley. Great addition by subtraction.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:08 pm    Post subject:

If we strike out on Iggy, just sign Hollis Jefferson and come at the Kawhi/George tandem IN WAVES!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:08 pm    Post subject:

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If we strike out on Iggy, just sign Hollis Jefferson and come at the Kawhi/George tandem IN WAVES!!!


Didnt RHJ sign with Toronto?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:09 pm    Post subject:

Shaolin's Finest wrote:
He's done a pretty good job rounding out the roster. I was afraid how we would fill out the team given last offseason's disaster signings, but it seems like he either learned from his mistakes, or Magic was the one advocating those horrible deals. I'm actually pretty happy with how the offseason has gone given we missed out on our Plan A.


Pretty good?

He has absolutely killed it, I have Bucks, Spurs and Warriors fans texting me of his dominance.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:09 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
LakerLanny wrote:
If we strike out on Iggy, just sign Hollis Jefferson and come at the Kawhi/George tandem IN WAVES!!!


Didnt RHJ sign with Toronto?


Thank you!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:15 pm    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
JerryWest_44 wrote:
In contrast Mitch Kupchak's Charlotte Hornets was a loser:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27143232/winners-losers-wildest-nba-week-ever


VLF on the way in 3...2...1... πŸ˜‚


MJ should just sell and the team moved to Vegas.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:16 pm    Post subject:

Hero Ball wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
JerryWest_44 wrote:
In contrast Mitch Kupchak's Charlotte Hornets was a loser:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27143232/winners-losers-wildest-nba-week-ever


VLF on the way in 3...2...1... πŸ˜‚


MJ should just sell and the team moved to Vegas.


Hornet Fan is just praying Mitch has lost Mozzie's phone number.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:17 pm    Post subject:

Hero Ball wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
JerryWest_44 wrote:
In contrast Mitch Kupchak's Charlotte Hornets was a loser:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27143232/winners-losers-wildest-nba-week-ever


VLF on the way in 3...2...1... πŸ˜‚


MJ should just sell and the team moved to Vegas.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:24 pm    Post subject:

LakerMindLA wrote:
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Meanwhile, the new genius FO across the hall just gave Zubac 28 million dollars...


It was a good move if you understand the salary cap and their salary cap situation moving forward. They used his cap-hold and then went over the cap to sign him using bird rights.

It has 0 impact on their space moving forward and gives them a nice size contract to include in a trade if necessary.


Exactly on the last part, our FO still hasn’t figured out the value of having tradable contracts.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:33 pm    Post subject:

I'm guessing it went something like this... Javale deserved to come back, Rondo... Eh fine for the minimum... KCP? "okay Rich, I'll sign pope, but you better guarantee AD resigns with us... Even if we miss the playoffs!"

ocho wrote:
Should be noted that of last Summer's much maligned signings, Pelinka brought 3 out of 5 of them back.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:33 pm    Post subject:

To be fair, Pelinka assembles a deep supporting cast. Maybe these veterans lack upside, but for about 38M to spend, and most FAs off the market, I am satisfied with these proven players. They just need to gel and find their roles.

Maybe exchange KCP for Morris would be better, but Rich Paul rules who goes where.

I do wonder what kind of vision/style they have in mind for the team, and who are "they"-- the decision makers who form that vision. Pelinka sure, Rambis most likely too. How about Jesse Buss, as assistant GM, or Vogel, or LBJ?

For the time being, the team consists of an aging super star, another super star in his prime, a few quality FA additions, only two rookie contracts, and some low-salary veterans whose roles remain unclear.

For example, Dudley and Daniel committed before Kawhi made his decision. Had Kawhi signed here, Dudley would have a very limited role. How about now? Daniel was the only SG when he commits. Now Green, KCP and Bradley are signed too.

What is the logic of these signings? Best veterans who could be fit into cap rules? What is the vision?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:36 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
Should be noted that of last Summer's much maligned signings, Pelinka brought 3 out of 5 of them back.
Nah broooo.....he's allegedly killed it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:38 pm    Post subject:

I like the way he recovered from that whole #2 crap. So i will give him is props for what he has done since then. He still isn't finished so let's see what else he pulls off.
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