Angels pitcher, Tyler Skaggs, passes away at 27
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:10 pm    Post subject:

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Did they say how he died?


LA Times reports that he passed away by choking on his vomit while under the influence of Fentanyl, oxycodone and alcohol....

https://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/story/2019-08-30/tyler-skaggs-autopsy-report-fentanyl-oxycodone-alcohol-angels-rusty-hardin


makes me wonder if cocaine has deeply embedded itself back into baseball. I recall when José Fernández recently killed himself and his friends in a boating accident, and had a significant amount of cocaine in his system.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:49 pm    Post subject:

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Did they say how he died?


LA Times reports that he passed away by choking on his vomit while under the influence of Fentanyl, oxycodone and alcohol....

https://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/story/2019-08-30/tyler-skaggs-autopsy-report-fentanyl-oxycodone-alcohol-angels-rusty-hardin


Heh figure it would be drugs. Wasted talent
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:37 pm    Post subject:

Another unfortunate addition to the 27 Club

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

Opiates are no joke, I worry about all young people who don't realize how crazy strong these drugs are.

Oxy is bad enough, but no one should be using Fentanyl.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:19 pm    Post subject:

The thread needs a bump. Major news today...

https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/27828247/los-angeles-angels-employee-details-team-knowledge-tyler-skaggs-drug-use-federal-dea-investigators-espn
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:57 pm    Post subject:

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The thread needs a bump. Major news today...

https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/27828247/los-angeles-angels-employee-details-team-knowledge-tyler-skaggs-drug-use-federal-dea-investigators-espn


Yeah, that's pretty big. Not good for the franchise.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:42 pm    Post subject:

I doubt he was the only MLB player using oxy....in his case he procured the illegal ones which are usually laced with fentanyl..unfortunately, it is just a reflection of American society that we have a huge drug problem.
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I doubt he was the only MLB player using oxy....in his case he procured the illegal ones which are usually laced with fentanyl..unfortunately, it is just a reflection of American society that we have a huge drug problem.


Sounds like he wasn't the only one on the Angels.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:31 pm    Post subject:

At least 5 more Angels suspected!

Busted big time.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:31 pm    Post subject:

The quote of multiple players being involved if verified could blow a lid of something I don't think anyone saw coming.

Baseball travel (especially for pitchers) is different. You are in each city for 3, 4 or 5 days at a time...guys make connections and find vices.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:43 pm    Post subject:

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The quote of multiple players being involved if verified could blow a lid of something I don't think anyone saw coming.

Baseball travel (especially for pitchers) is different. You are in each city for 3, 4 or 5 days at a time...guys make connections and find vices.


This could be not just bad for the Angels, but for baseball in general. You know that many players are using; this isn't just an isolated thing. Athletes will do anything for an edge. In baseball, used to be amphetamines (greenies) for decades. Then steroids. Then PED's. With more stringent PED testing over the past decade or so, I wouldn't be surprised if certain players are finding whatever they can get their hands on for a perceived edge.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:06 pm    Post subject:

^I don't see how opiates could be providing any edge.

He was apparently snorting lines of cut up oxy for years as were perhaps other members of his team. That is not performance enhancing in my estimation for a professional athlete.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:15 am    Post subject:

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^I don't see how opiates could be providing any edge.

He was apparently snorting lines of cut up oxy for years as were perhaps other members of his team. That is not performance enhancing in my estimation for a professional athlete.


Yeah, they were just getting high off it. That's why he was mixing with alcohol. Not to improve his pitching.

Sounds like the Angles guys involved were addicted though. If the guy who was selling it to him was also using and in rehab for it, then he probably just liked to party with them and was a guy who could get it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:36 am    Post subject:

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The quote of multiple players being involved if verified could blow a lid of something I don't think anyone saw coming.

Baseball travel (especially for pitchers) is different. You are in each city for 3, 4 or 5 days at a time...guys make connections and find vices.


This could be not just bad for the Angels, but for baseball in general. You know that many players are using; this isn't just an isolated thing. Athletes will do anything for an edge. In baseball, used to be amphetamines (greenies) for decades. Then steroids. Then PED's. With more stringent PED testing over the past decade or so, I wouldn't be surprised if certain players are finding whatever they can get their hands on for a perceived edge.


There's no 'edge' to be gained from opiates. This is addiction.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:58 am    Post subject:

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Yes, you are all correct. My mistake.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:16 am    Post subject:

I doubt any of those guys wanted to get fentanyl in their system. Its just a cheap filler for the drug dealers but highly toxic to anybody that comes into contact with it. It has its uses in the medical field but what we are talking about is drug abuse.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:36 pm    Post subject:

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I doubt any of those guys wanted to get fentanyl in their system. Its just a cheap filler for the drug dealers but highly toxic to anybody that comes into contact with it. It has its uses in the medical field but what we are talking about is drug abuse.


Yeah, it's the crazy new epidemic that's killing people by the thousands. Poor folks, celebrities, athletes. A 20 something kid that worked in my company died this year. It's nuts. Humans will never fail to find new ways to destroy themselves.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:59 pm    Post subject:

Patriot Act (on Netflix) recently did an episode on how deadly Fentanyl can be:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:01 am    Post subject:

This story is getting uglier and uglier for the Angels.

If the front office guys lied about being told about Skaggs, that is going to be an issue but the big news is apparently (allegedly) there was a pretty major opiate issue going on with the team.

I find it pretty shocking, it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/angels/story/2019-10-15/matt-harvey-five-other-angels-interviewed-dea-tyler-skaggs-probe
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