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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:17 am    Post subject:

His defense is nonexistent but his offense is on point. He has to improve defensively if he wants to make a difference.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:13 am    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
His defense is nonexistent but his offense is on point. He has to improve defensively if he wants to make a difference.


That’s dlo- cook actually gives effort
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:16 am    Post subject:

is Cook our starting pg?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:18 am    Post subject:

Good player. Nice signing.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:18 am    Post subject:

Can we finally say we dodged the Rondo bullet?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:19 am    Post subject:

Defensively cook actually gave effort.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:48 am    Post subject:

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OK for a back up. NO defense. There was a 17 point spread when he was on the floor rather than off. That is as in negative 17 points.
Notoriously bad statistically on defense...bottom of the barrell. Fans complained about Clarkson and now Kuzma, then welcome him. There's a reason he was buried deep on the bench.


Whoa whoa...did you guys watch the finals? He was getting up on folks and giving effort. Is there some advanced stat supporting this or we just disagree on the eyeball test? +\- can be very deceptive

I said "statistically" bad because on sports talk radio (710? 570? 830?) yesterday, they read a stat that he ranked in the bottom 2 of 87 (89?) (pg's?) guards.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:58 am    Post subject:

DrDent wrote:
pio2u wrote:
His defense is nonexistent but his offense is on point. He has to improve defensively if he wants to make a difference.


That’s dlo- cook actually gives effort


If he gives good effort that's a start. Hopefully he continues to work on his defense. His offense is steady. I'm glad we picked him up. He is an asset that's for sure.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:08 pm    Post subject:

DrDent wrote:
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OK for a back up. NO defense. There was a 17 point spread when he was on the floor rather than off. That is as in negative 17 points.
Notoriously bad statistically on defense...bottom of the barrell. Fans complained about Clarkson and now Kuzma, then welcome him. There's a reason he was buried deep on the bench.


Whoa whoa...did you guys watch the finals? He was getting up on folks and giving effort. Is there some advanced stat supporting this or we just disagree on the eyeball test? +\- can be very deceptive


There are many:

ORTG on/off: -16.2 2019 regular season; -21.4 2019 playoffs
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cookqu01/on-off/2019

oRPM -0.54; dRPM -3.49; RPM -4.03 (94 out of 100)
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/3/position/1

82games--Production: own, 16.4; opp, 19.7--On court -6.0; Off court +11.1; net -17.2 (rounding I suppose)
http://www.82games.com/1819/1819GSW.HTM
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:18 pm    Post subject:

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Can we finally say we dodged the Rondo bullet?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:22 pm    Post subject:

Cook is a career 42% 3 point shooter.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:48 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
Can we finally say we dodged the Rondo bullet?


We did, but it was a boomerang bullet that came back around. Another year of crappy ass play, but lots of "just wait for the playoffs" hype. But then again, dude is up and down. So hopefully next year is UP.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:13 pm    Post subject:

Interesting that he played with Boogie, AD, Rondo and McGee before
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:14 pm    Post subject:

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Interesting that he played with Boogie, AD, Rondo and McGee before


Getting the band back together again
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:17 pm    Post subject:

K2 wrote:
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Interesting that he played with Boogie, AD, Rondo and McGee before


Getting the band back together again

Just in time for the Lakers 2020 NBA Championship parade!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:18 pm    Post subject:

Solid signing. We still need a starting PG.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:36 pm    Post subject:

Best signing this offseason. Cook should start with lebron playing point foreard
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:30 pm    Post subject:

Horrific defender. We need someone to play pick and roll defense, especially with Boogie on the squad too. I hope we bring Caruso back.

Not a bad signing, but a little redundant with Troy Daniels.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:45 pm    Post subject:

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Horrific defender. We need someone to play pick and roll defense, especially with Boogie on the squad too. I hope we bring Caruso back.

Not a bad signing, but a little redundant with Troy Daniels.


Its nice to have options in case ones having an off night or foul trouble.
They can both knock down shots, which we need.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:20 pm    Post subject:

Welcome to the Lakers, Quinn!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:22 pm    Post subject:

ribeye wrote:
DrDent wrote:
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OK for a back up. NO defense. There was a 17 point spread when he was on the floor rather than off. That is as in negative 17 points.
Notoriously bad statistically on defense...bottom of the barrell. Fans complained about Clarkson and now Kuzma, then welcome him. There's a reason he was buried deep on the bench.


Whoa whoa...did you guys watch the finals? He was getting up on folks and giving effort. Is there some advanced stat supporting this or we just disagree on the eyeball test? +\- can be very deceptive


There are many:

ORTG on/off: -16.2 2019 regular season; -21.4 2019 playoffs
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cookqu01/on-off/2019

oRPM -0.54; dRPM -3.49; RPM -4.03 (94 out of 100)
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/3/position/1

82games--Production: own, 16.4; opp, 19.7--On court -6.0; Off court +11.1; net -17.2 (rounding I suppose)
http://www.82games.com/1819/1819GSW.HTM


I’m very surprised. I freely admit I watched him primarily in finals but he caught my attention. Unlike a poor defender he was really getting up on folks and challenging them. Maybe he stepped up for those games or maybe after a few passes he loses his man? But I was like...what the heck this dude getting up in the raptors grills.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:42 pm    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
Cook is a career 42% 3 point shooter.


And he and Green got deep playoff experience. If we should get far, they won't wet their pants. We need about everyone to have that trait, imo. No more yutes (save Kuz), we got only 1-2 shots at a title and it's gonna be harder than most of us thot since Kawhi turned out to be a creep.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:48 pm    Post subject:

Joe Pesci wrote:
Quinnipiac is the better catch and shoot jumpshooter, but I would've preferred Trey Burke because he is miles superior as a penetrator and shot creator.

The Lakers chose him because of shooting, Burke was the better option here for what they need beyond shooting.

Who will get their own shot on this team beyond James and Davis.

This move shows me they aren't truly into the needs of this team. Yes they need shooting, but they also are severely in need of shot creation abs a guy who can break down defenses.


They said this last year and watched "guys that can create their own offense" continually miss shots because they were NOT SHOOTERS.....
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:43 pm    Post subject:

Are we just raiding the Warriors now? Cook, Cousins, and potentially Iguodala.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:52 pm    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
His defense is nonexistent but his offense is on point. He has to improve defensively if he wants to make a difference.


If he can drop 3 balls with regularity, I am not sure his D will even matter that much.

Obviously we are looking for guys who can knock in the wide open uncontested 3's as there should be plenty off of LeBron and Davis double teams.
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