Who would win in a 7 game series right now, rosters as is
Lakers
83%
[ 204 ]
Clippers
16%
[ 41 ]
Total Votes : 245
Author
Message
Car54 Franchise Player
Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 14424
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:46 pm Post subject:
Krispy Kreme wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
unleasHell wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Pureshot77 wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
unleasHell wrote:
There are two confusing aspects for the Clippers:
First, Patrick Beverly is listed as their starting PG, his career APG is 3.5, kinda low don't ya think? and who is their back-up PG?
Next, is their staring Center, our own beloved Zubac, with only 3 years of experience, still VERY mistake-prone and posting career scoring numbers of 6.4ppg and rebounding at 4.6rpg, he will get eaten up and be in foul trouble against every decent center in the NBA!
Blue Oyster Cult should remake their old hit, changing the title to: "Don't Fear the Clippers"
Assists are the least valuable of all counting stats. How many do you think that Bradley will get starting for the Lakers?
I don't agree that assists are the least valuable stat for a PG. But setting that aside, this is a fair point as SGA only averaged 3.3 assists a game last year. However, I would argue that Bradley's assist numbers are just as if not more inconsequential to the Laker's success seeing as how he plays alongside Lebron James.
Exactly my point in posting that. Beverly’s assists won’t matter playing with Kawhi and George, both players will distribute the ball.
The same Kawhi & George that have career assists totals of 2.4 & 3.3 ?
Oh yeah, Clippers should be just fine.... (lol)
Yes, they likely will be just fine.
I’m sure that makes you happy. Just don’t go jumping back on our bandwagon when we win a ring in the next few years. Don’t pretend like you called it.
Did he promise to join the clippers bandwagon more than a year ago? Why is he still here making dumb post? _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi
Both teams got one more move to make. We saving a spot for hopefully a tall wing defender 3&D 'cough Iggy cough'. Clippers can trade Pat Bev/Harkless/McGruder/Zubac for a Steven Adams/Scroeder in dec too
They could but that would weaken their shooting and defense at PG. I guess it may be worth it with them getting a better distributor. Because I don’t their has ever been a team who won it all without a main distributor on the team. _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi
The “Experts” (lol) are picking the Clippers based on them adding Kawhi & George “to a team that won 48 games last season”!
Did the “experts” consider that the Clippers only have (5) guys who were on the team ALL of last season?
And only (3) of them were regular players (Williams, Beverly, Harrell).
The other (2) were not exactly big contributors: Robinson (33 games @ 9mpg) and Motley (only 22 games @ 7 mpg). Depth? Really?
Have any of these “Experts” broken down the Clippers roster?
Sure they Kawhi, who had an awesome playoff run, yet missed 22 regular season games!
Their other star (George) had multiple off-season surgeries and may miss the first 3 to 4 weeks at the beginning of next season.
Ok, the Clippers retained (4) players who came over in trades: Harkless, Shamert, Green, and Zubac. Depth? Maybe…
Clippers added (2) players from this year’s draft: Kabengele, and Mann, who will contribute very little if anything to their depth.
I guess I’m not an expert because I just don’t see the “depth” they are raving about!
And as far as Coaching, Doc Rivers has had a winning record with the Clippers for his entire 6 years, but his only championship will have been 12 seasons ago in Boston, so in a league whose motto is “What have you done for me lately?”, Doc doesn’t have much to brag about…
Having Chris Paul certainly helped with that. Paul even managed to carry Byron Scott to winning records.
Another thing the experts aren't considering is Paul George. There is a good chance Paul George won't do as good as expected. Last season he had a great season...but that was before his shoulder injury. I believe he was shooting 46% from 3 prior to the injury and 40% after. A significant drop. And he just had surgery on his other shoulder and will be out for an unknown amount of time. And he has a history of serious injuries.
Additionally Paul George's performance can be attributed to Russell Westbrook. If you look at his stats, he averaged around 8.5 rebounds, 10 assists, and about 23 points. He received so much attention and distrubated the ball so well, PG likely benefited from this. It is possible without Westbrook, PG couldn't have be so dominant. Unfortunately, Kawhi Leonard only averages about 2-3 assists per game so the fit between him and Kawhi are questionable.
So given his injury and the questionable fit between him and Kawhi, I think at least offensively they won't be as good. Defensively they will..so I think they will win a lot of games, but they won't have enough scoring to get them over the top.
I keep hearing about how the two is an automatic fit together. I don’t see what about their games connect but I also see why they wouldn’t work together. After all PG is the type to fall in line and let Kawhi be the lead. He did it with Westbrook who’s ball dominate. So I could see the two fitting together. With that said you hear things like we have to see how Frank uses Lebron and AD lol so the experts can’t see how the two would have a killer pick and roll? _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi
They have zero interior defense. Harrell 6’8 LMAO...and Zu? AD and Boogie will have a feast not to mention lobs with McGee and Bron attacking the rim.
It’s quite comical just watching AD games vs the fliers 46pts 16rebs 4ast and the win on the road
AD can be more dominant than Lebron 40 plus is so easy and he he’s grab 20 Rebs while doing it.
23pts 13rebs 5ast 3stls 3blks _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi
Lakers are significantly better, purely from roster construction standpoint. We have the playmakers, we have the shooters, we have a dominant front court, we have three and D guys. We have an extremely balanced and well constructed team
Agreed they have one play maker in PG unless you count Shamet as one. Kawhi and Beverly are not play makers
Lou Williams
Man Lou Will is a shooter, he is more Jamal Crawford, he's a microwave. I don't see him running the point for extended periods of time.
I'm not sure when was the last time you saw Lou play, but he has improved a lot in that department. He's obviously not a pure playmaker, but he is a great passer. He averaged close to 8 assist against the Warriors in the playoffs
we have 2 power forwards and a center that can dribble, post-up and play defense well. what are you afraid of? Each of these needs a double teamed defense if he is posting up. Outside shooters will have their hands full. in a good way of course. _________________ Kobe's Top 5 Dunks, 81 points, MJ last gm @Staples
In a nutshell you summed it up moonriver. People keep talking about the pairing of Lebron and Davis..but the pairing of Cousins and Davis already happened (although only a short period of time due to a trade) and was successful.
This is in the words of Demarcus Cousins in Jan 2019 (prior to free agency and when he was on a stacked Warrior team)
“I think about our pairing all the time,” Cousins said. “Me and AD talk about it. It’s f–ked up.
“It could’ve been something great, something special, but other people had different things in mind. That’s out of our control, and you never know what’ll happen later on down the line.”
Notice the use of the f word. There is a reason why Cousins came to the Lakers and it isn't because of the Lakers themselves.
So there is no reason to worry..unless you are on the opposing team Good luck Clippers!!
Hopefully Lou Williams comes back down to earth next season. Put up 20/5 in only 26MPG
He should also fire his agent for allowing him to sign that dirt cheap extension _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though."
Hopefully Lou Williams comes back down to earth next season. Put up 20/5 in only 26MPG
He should also fire his agent for allowing him to sign that dirt cheap extension
He's been taking those bargain deals throughout his career. It's so weird. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
- John Piper
They have zero interior defense. Harrell 6’8 LMAO...and Zu? AD and Boogie will have a feast not to mention lobs with McGee and Bron attacking the rim.
It’s quite comical just watching AD games vs the fliers 46pts 16rebs 4ast and the win on the road
AD can be more dominant than Lebron 40 plus is so easy and he he’s grab 20 Rebs while doing it.
23pts 13rebs 5ast 3stls 3blks
It's going to be really interesting to see who gets the assignment from Doc to guard AD. The guys they had on him in those two meetings last season (Harris, Gortat, and Gallinari) aren't even Clippers anymore. But obviously Doc's strategy was to go with length. Based on that, my best guess is that it'll be George's job to contain AD and Kawhi will be on LeBron. And I think Beverley will be on Green because Doc will trust his discipline and defensive IQ to know when to stay at home and close out on Green vs helping to disrupt AD and LeBron when they get the ball. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
- John Piper
They have zero interior defense. Harrell 6’8 LMAO...and Zu? AD and Boogie will have a feast not to mention lobs with McGee and Bron attacking the rim.
It’s quite comical just watching AD games vs the fliers 46pts 16rebs 4ast and the win on the road
AD can be more dominant than Lebron 40 plus is so easy and he he’s grab 20 Rebs while doing it.
23pts 13rebs 5ast 3stls 3blks
It's going to be really interesting to see who gets the assignment from Doc to guard AD. The guys they had on him in those two meetings last season (Harris, Gortat, and Gallinari) aren't even Clippers anymore. But obviously Doc's strategy was to go with length. Based on that, my best guess is that it'll be George's job to contain AD and Kawhi will be on LeBron. And I think Beverley will be on Green because Doc will trust his discipline and defensive IQ to know when to stay at home and close out on Green vs helping to disrupt AD and LeBron when they get the ball.
They have zero interior defense. Harrell 6’8 LMAO...and Zu? AD and Boogie will have a feast not to mention lobs with McGee and Bron attacking the rim.
It’s quite comical just watching AD games vs the fliers 46pts 16rebs 4ast and the win on the road
AD can be more dominant than Lebron 40 plus is so easy and he he’s grab 20 Rebs while doing it.
23pts 13rebs 5ast 3stls 3blks
It's going to be really interesting to see who gets the assignment from Doc to guard AD. The guys they had on him in those two meetings last season (Harris, Gortat, and Gallinari) aren't even Clippers anymore. But obviously Doc's strategy was to go with length. Based on that, my best guess is that it'll be George's job to contain AD and Kawhi will be on LeBron. And I think Beverley will be on Green because Doc will trust his discipline and defensive IQ to know when to stay at home and close out on Green vs helping to disrupt AD and LeBron when they get the ball.
PG3 on AD?? That’s BBQ Chicken 😂
Yeah PG can't be on AD. The Clipps will have to make a move imo. They have no one on the roster that should be guarding AD.
They have zero interior defense. Harrell 6’8 LMAO...and Zu? AD and Boogie will have a feast not to mention lobs with McGee and Bron attacking the rim.
It’s quite comical just watching AD games vs the fliers 46pts 16rebs 4ast and the win on the road
AD can be more dominant than Lebron 40 plus is so easy and he he’s grab 20 Rebs while doing it.
23pts 13rebs 5ast 3stls 3blks
It's going to be really interesting to see who gets the assignment from Doc to guard AD. The guys they had on him in those two meetings last season (Harris, Gortat, and Gallinari) aren't even Clippers anymore. But obviously Doc's strategy was to go with length. Based on that, my best guess is that it'll be George's job to contain AD and Kawhi will be on LeBron. And I think Beverley will be on Green because Doc will trust his discipline and defensive IQ to know when to stay at home and close out on Green vs helping to disrupt AD and LeBron when they get the ball.
Montrez was on him as well and he’s a clipper still. _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi
They have zero interior defense. Harrell 6’8 LMAO...and Zu? AD and Boogie will have a feast not to mention lobs with McGee and Bron attacking the rim.
It’s quite comical just watching AD games vs the fliers 46pts 16rebs 4ast and the win on the road
AD can be more dominant than Lebron 40 plus is so easy and he he’s grab 20 Rebs while doing it.
23pts 13rebs 5ast 3stls 3blks
It's going to be really interesting to see who gets the assignment from Doc to guard AD. The guys they had on him in those two meetings last season (Harris, Gortat, and Gallinari) aren't even Clippers anymore. But obviously Doc's strategy was to go with length. Based on that, my best guess is that it'll be George's job to contain AD and Kawhi will be on LeBron. And I think Beverley will be on Green because Doc will trust his discipline and defensive IQ to know when to stay at home and close out on Green vs helping to disrupt AD and LeBron when they get the ball.
He’s not gonna have Kawhi on him full time. I think he’s gonna put pat on Lebron like he did this season and how he used him on KD. Beverly on Green is a waste. _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi
First, Patrick Beverly is listed as their starting PG, his career APG is 3.5, kinda low don't ya think? and who is their back-up PG?
Next, is their staring Center, our own beloved Zubac, with only 3 years of experience, still VERY mistake-prone and posting career scoring numbers of 6.4ppg and rebounding at 4.6rpg, he will get eaten up and be in foul trouble against every decent center in the NBA!
Blue Oyster Cult should remake their old hit, changing the title to: "Don't Fear the Clippers"
Assists are the least valuable of all counting stats. How many do you think that Bradley will get starting for the Lakers?
I don't agree that assists are the least valuable stat for a PG. But setting that aside, this is a fair point as SGA only averaged 3.3 assists a game last year. However, I would argue that Bradley's assist numbers are just as if not more inconsequential to the Laker's success seeing as how he plays alongside Lebron James.
Exactly my point in posting that. Beverly’s assists won’t matter playing with Kawhi and George, both players will distribute the ball.
The same Kawhi & George that have career assists totals of 2.4 & 3.3 ?
Oh yeah, Clippers should be just fine.... (lol)
Yes, they likely will be just fine.
I’m sure that makes you happy. Just don’t go jumping back on our bandwagon when we win a ring in the next few years. Don’t pretend like you called it.
Did he promise to join the clippers bandwagon more than a year ago? Why is he still here making dumb post?
Wouldn’t be surprised ... consider the source _________________ Dominating every day.
I think expecting PG/KL to do the playmaking is not a good recipe for success. I think KL is more of a scorer rather than all around playmaker/scorer kind of player.
I can see an iso heavy system next year. At least last year, they had low usage players who shared the ball. It was very egalitarian. With PG/KL no as much. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
I think expecting PG/KL to do the playmaking is not a good recipe for success. I think KL is more of a scorer rather than all around playmaker/scorer kind of player.
I can see an iso heavy system next year. At least last year, they had low usage players who shared the ball. It was very egalitarian. With PG/KL no as much.
Its not, they arent playmakers; every team has its flaws this year, there is no GSW juggernaut. I have it Lakers Clippers Bucks in that order as the most likely to win. Throw in GSW and Nets if Klay or KD coming back 90% or better
I think expecting PG/KL to do the playmaking is not a good recipe for success. I think KL is more of a scorer rather than all around playmaker/scorer kind of player.
I can see an iso heavy system next year. At least last year, they had low usage players who shared the ball. It was very egalitarian. With PG/KL no as much.
Its not, they arent playmakers; every team has its flaws this year, there is no GSW juggernaut. I have it Lakers Clippers Bucks in that order as the most likely to win. Throw in GSW and Nets if Klay or KD coming back 90% or better
The Clips perimeter defense will be stifling this year. Probably one of the best perimeter defensive trios ever if they all stay healthy. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
count me down as another who dont think the Clippers will be nearly as good as hyped. I cant wait to see the Lakers run them out of town. _________________ (bleep) Kawhi
Lakers in 7 but only because the Lakers will have 7 home games. The Clips are slightly better but I think the Lakers pull out a 7 game series.
Right now I have them evenly matched.
Depends on:
1. Iggy (who gets him)
2. other buyout guys later in the year
3. trades (Clips have some really tradeable pieces). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 35854 Location: Santa Clarita, CA (Hell) ->>>>>Ithaca, NY -≥≥≥≥≥Berkeley, CA
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:53 am Post subject:
Car54 wrote:
Judah wrote:
Car54 wrote:
King Randle wrote:
They have zero interior defense. Harrell 6’8 LMAO...and Zu? AD and Boogie will have a feast not to mention lobs with McGee and Bron attacking the rim.
It’s quite comical just watching AD games vs the fliers 46pts 16rebs 4ast and the win on the road
AD can be more dominant than Lebron 40 plus is so easy and he he’s grab 20 Rebs while doing it.
23pts 13rebs 5ast 3stls 3blks
It's going to be really interesting to see who gets the assignment from Doc to guard AD. The guys they had on him in those two meetings last season (Harris, Gortat, and Gallinari) aren't even Clippers anymore. But obviously Doc's strategy was to go with length. Based on that, my best guess is that it'll be George's job to contain AD and Kawhi will be on LeBron. And I think Beverley will be on Green because Doc will trust his discipline and defensive IQ to know when to stay at home and close out on Green vs helping to disrupt AD and LeBron when they get the ball.
He’s not gonna have Kawhi on him full time. I think he’s gonna put pat on Lebron like he did this season and how he used him on KD. Beverly on Green is a waste.
How is Beverly able to guard LeBron when he's only 6'1? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
count me down as another who dont think the Clippers will be nearly as good as hyped. I cant wait to see the Lakers run them out of town.
I think they will be good. But people talk about how fragile LBJ/AD supposedly are and don't apply the same level of scrutiny to PG (2 shoulder surgeries this offseason) and KL (founder of LoadManagement.com). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
They have zero interior defense. Harrell 6’8 LMAO...and Zu? AD and Boogie will have a feast not to mention lobs with McGee and Bron attacking the rim.
It’s quite comical just watching AD games vs the fliers 46pts 16rebs 4ast and the win on the road
AD can be more dominant than Lebron 40 plus is so easy and he he’s grab 20 Rebs while doing it.
23pts 13rebs 5ast 3stls 3blks
It's going to be really interesting to see who gets the assignment from Doc to guard AD. The guys they had on him in those two meetings last season (Harris, Gortat, and Gallinari) aren't even Clippers anymore. But obviously Doc's strategy was to go with length. Based on that, my best guess is that it'll be George's job to contain AD and Kawhi will be on LeBron. And I think Beverley will be on Green because Doc will trust his discipline and defensive IQ to know when to stay at home and close out on Green vs helping to disrupt AD and LeBron when they get the ball.
Montrez was on him as well and he’s a clipper still.
But what position will he play? If he plays the 5 he'll be on Boogie. Maybe Doc starts he and Zubac together? That could possibly work, I guess. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
- John Piper
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Good luck Clippers!!
