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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:12 pm    Post subject:

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celtic scum


Rick Fox. Bill Sharman (as a coach). Brian Shaw. Bob McAdoo.


Shaq and Don (hops) Nelson went the other way..


The current HBO Real Sports episode has a feature on Don Nelson and his life today. Don's on his way, looks very old. Has the long "I don't care" hair that some gents grow in their final days. He took in an adult daughter that he didn't know about until she was 35ish. Good of him.

Ah, found


Woa, Nellie!!! Good to see happiness on Don!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:15 pm    Post subject:

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Can we now trade kcp for Carson Edwards?

I'm positive we won't and can't... but we could trade you for a bag of chips.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:19 pm    Post subject:

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Meh signing.

If we get memphis bradley then it could be decent.

If we get clippers bradley then it's straight garbage.


really hoping for the celtics Bradley


I dont trust the Lakers staff to make “celtics Bradley” realistically happen.

We should be happy if he doesn’t turn out to be a negative player


They haven't coached a single game. Why don't u trust something which you haven't seen?


Lakers don’t have a great history of reclamation projects because they are behind in many areas like player development and analytics.

Getting a Bradley who doesn’t suck would still be a win even if it isn’t “Celtics Bradley”.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:24 pm    Post subject:

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Could KCP have agreed to be trade filler somewhere?


Nailed it! Don't know if he "agreed" but i am pretty sure, if the Lakers make a midseason trade for a "good player", we'll use KCP's $8M to try and make the salaries match!


He has to agree. Since his second year is an option, he is technically a one year signing and has trade veto rights...

Is it because his second year is an option? Asking because I'm no cap expert and his Spotrac page says this:

Contract Notes:
One-Year Bird Restriction (Veto Trade)
15% Trade Kicker
15% ($1,213,392) unlikely incentives
2020 Player Option

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/los-angeles-lakers/kentavious-caldwell-pope-13321/


Yes, more precisely because the second year is HIS option. If it were a team option, they could pick it up and trade him. But because it is his, he has to agree to a trade.


We tried to trade him to Chicago last year and he vetoed it. IIRC same issue with Phoenix when we were shooting for Ariza, though I guess they didn’t get as far down the road.

I really think the deal was to get KCP a contract and try to trade him somewhere this season. If he likes the destination he opts in and collects a 15% trade bonus. Question is where is that destination?

On the Bradley front, dude has been a starter for the last several years. He would seem to fit what we need in that unit too.

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16-17: 55 games, 55 starts (played/started in 18 playoff games)
17-18: 46 games, 46 starts
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:52 pm    Post subject:

As long as he will play tough on the ball defense on the opposing point, anything else is a bonus as far as I am concerned.

We need men, not boys....I like the move.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:27 pm    Post subject:

Ron Ron will gladly return from a South bay Lakers game and throw an elbow at Kawai while still wearing his suit. Haha

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Another 6'2" guard? How many undersized SG on this team now?


Only guy that has a chance of keeping up with Lou Williams. Trust me we will need that.


and who will keep up with KL + PG?


Dudley’s elbow


if only metta were still around
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:55 pm    Post subject:

As long as Bradley is even 80% the player he was with the Celtics at both ends, I love this signing. He can create his own shot and score, which we were lacking in the backcourt, and he can harrass small guards like Lou Will, Lillard, Westbrook, Conley, etc.

Looking at his career stats, it looks like the Clippers are the one team he sucked on. Elsewhere in recent seasons, whether it was Detroit or Memphis, his 3 point shooting and steals were on par with his days in Boston.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:14 pm    Post subject:

Not sure if this has been posted but it’s a great video about Bradley from an supposed NBA scout. Breaks down how Bradley is still a tenacious good defender despite the analytics and why his offensive game dropped in LAC but spiked up in Memphis.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:25 pm    Post subject:

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Not sure if this has been posted but it’s a great video about Bradley from an supposed NBA scout. Breaks down how Bradley is still a tenacious good defender despite the analytics and why his offensive game dropped in LAC but spiked up in Memphis.



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:31 pm    Post subject:

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Not sure if this has been posted but it’s a great video about Bradley from an supposed NBA scout. Breaks down how Bradley is still a tenacious good defender despite the analytics and why his offensive game dropped in LAC but spiked up in Memphis.


guy who made this video has real issues... but this is a useful video for sure
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:31 pm    Post subject:

Watched some Highlights from this season. He can still be disruptive
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:32 pm    Post subject:

Watched some Highlights from this season. He can still be disruptive on defense
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:40 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
Not sure if this has been posted but it’s a great video about Bradley from an supposed NBA scout. Breaks down how Bradley is still a tenacious good defender despite the analytics and why his offensive game dropped in LAC but spiked up in Memphis.

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The Human Valium. Narrator put me through sleep under 2 mins, good breakdown otherwise.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:54 pm    Post subject:

Full room for this dude? 2 years? I guess it's a tradable contract, but why wouldn't you wait to see if Iggy gets bought out?

Justin Holiday? Trey Burke?

I don't like this signing at all.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:00 pm    Post subject:

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As long as he will play tough on the ball defense on the opposing point, anything else is a bonus as far as I am concerned.

We need men, not boys....I like the move.


Lanny, would you go as far as to say, "Hallelujah, it's rainin MEN!"?
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Ron Ron will gladly return from a South bay Lakers game and throw an elbow at Kawai while still wearing his suit. Haha

matrixskillz wrote:
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Another 6'2" guard? How many undersized SG on this team now?


Only guy that has a chance of keeping up with Lou Williams. Trust me we will need that.


and who will keep up with KL + PG?


Dudley’s elbow


if only metta were still around


Lebron and Danny. Whos gonna defend AD and Boogie?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:06 pm    Post subject:

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Not sure if this has been posted but it’s a great video about Bradley from an supposed NBA scout. Breaks down how Bradley is still a tenacious good defender despite the analytics and why his offensive game dropped in LAC but spiked up in Memphis.


guy who made this video has real issues... but this is a useful video for sure


He’s no LFR but he does a good job of breaking down film on defense and offense rather than relying on only analytics to judge a player like many on twitter do

I feel more confident with this signing now that I know his defense is still there and he’s a 40% shooter on wide open 3s
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:08 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
The Juggernaut wrote:
Not sure if this has been posted but it’s a great video about Bradley from an supposed NBA scout. Breaks down how Bradley is still a tenacious good defender despite the analytics and why his offensive game dropped in LAC but spiked up in Memphis.


guy who made this video has real issues... but this is a useful video for sure

He know's basketball for sure, but can have some terrible take's because he likes to go against the grain just to be that guy. He's just straight up weird on Twitter
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:08 pm    Post subject:

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Not sure if this has been posted but it’s a great video about Bradley from an supposed NBA scout. Breaks down how Bradley is still a tenacious good defender despite the analytics and why his offensive game dropped in LAC but spiked up in Memphis.


guy who made this video has real issues... but this is a useful video for sure


He’s no LFR but he does a good job of breaking down film on defense and offense rather than relying on only analytics to judge a player like many on twitter do


he looks at tape well. he's just an ass on twitter. useful vid though. I value just that 10mins of tape as much as i do his analytics; clearly shows he's still the best defensive POA guard in the game some games. And has some gravity on O.
worth the RE, imo, for sure
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:09 pm    Post subject:

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The Juggernaut wrote:
Not sure if this has been posted but it’s a great video about Bradley from an supposed NBA scout. Breaks down how Bradley is still a tenacious good defender despite the analytics and why his offensive game dropped in LAC but spiked up in Memphis.


guy who made this video has real issues... but this is a useful video for sure

He know's basketball for sure, but can have some terrible take's because he likes to go against the grain just to be that guy. He's just straight up weird on Twitter


lmao. even BSO did a whole story on his weird ass exploits on twitter
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:10 pm    Post subject:

He’s gonna have to be our Pat Beverly, too many stud PG in the west
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:58 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
The Juggernaut wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
The Juggernaut wrote:
Not sure if this has been posted but it’s a great video about Bradley from an supposed NBA scout. Breaks down how Bradley is still a tenacious good defender despite the analytics and why his offensive game dropped in LAC but spiked up in Memphis.


guy who made this video has real issues... but this is a useful video for sure


He’s no LFR but he does a good job of breaking down film on defense and offense rather than relying on only analytics to judge a player like many on twitter do


he looks at tape well. he's just an ass on twitter. useful vid though. I value just that 10mins of tape as much as i do his analytics; clearly shows he's still the best defensive POA guard in the game some games. And has some gravity on O.
worth the RE, imo, for sure


Yeah, he's great at tape breakdowns but his Twitter takes can be odd

Agreed, definitely looks like he's worth the RE
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:17 pm    Post subject:

One thing about Bradley that I read is that he was often made to guard shooting guards and small forwards on defense at the Clippers. He’s not made to do that, he defends point guards reasonably well, guys who are short enough to not blow by him with ease

If he plays at SG on offense and PG on defense, we’ve got a good one. He can do that with Bron as our primary offensive ball handler
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:19 pm    Post subject:

levon wrote:
Full room for this dude? 2 years? I guess it's a tradable contract, but why wouldn't you wait to see if Iggy gets bought out?

Justin Holiday? Trey Burke?

I don't like this signing at all.

For the last time, Iggy ain’t getting bought out lol. The best chance we have of signing a buyout candidate right now is Korver

Bradley will start and will play well in this system IMO
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:20 pm    Post subject:

He’s still on this side of 30 and has proven tones good defender. I wanted him when clippers were dumping guys last year.
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