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| Dr. Funkbot wrote: | | Kuz is better than the vaunted Green team youngsters Brown and Tatum, yet for some reason he continually gets downgraded. Kuz is the guy and I am glad he is a Laker. |
He gets downgraded because he isn’t as good. The other two are much more complete players. Why not see if Kuzma can be a spark off the bench and be happy about that? I would bet that 30 teams would pick Tatum over Kuzma.
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| manlisten wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | cal1piggy wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | cal1piggy wrote: |
size -> lakers
athleticism -> clippers
experience > lakers
youth -> clippers
3p shooting -> lakers
defense -> clippers
overall pretty much reflects the teams overall |
Let's break that down (using the depth chart from RealGM):
Bradley (2X All-D) vs Beverley (2X All-D): EVEN (AB coming off injury but 3 yrs younger than Bev)
Green (1X All-D) vs Shamet: LAKERS/GREEN
LeBron (6X All-D) vs Kawhi (5X All-D): CLIPPERS/KAWHI
Davis (3X All-D) vs PG (4X All-D): LAKERS/DAVIS (PG cannot handle AD in the post)
McGee vs Zubac: LAKERS/MCGEE
Looking at the benches:
LAKERS: D39 will be a plus defender, Caruso and KCP will have their moments.
CLIPPERS:Harrell and Harkless are energy/hustle guys, but not lockdown defenders. Lou Will can't guard me and I'm 56 years old.
So, I could see giving the Clippers a moderate edge on perimeter defense and the Lakers a big edge on interior defense. If you factor in rebounding as the final piece of defense, I think the Lakers may actually get the nod. |
i do not believe pg13 will be playing pf
i have no idea why those sites did that
particularly not against ad who would wear him down
about bev at 31, i think he is the surer bet this year against bradley
after that, probably at least even or slight adv for bradley |
When he was in Indy the coaches begged PG13 to play "PF" and he refused. Said it publicly too.
If anything, it's KL who would have to play it. |
I'd play Kawhi at C with Harkless and PG13 at the forward spots to close games if I were Doc Rivers. AD, Jokic, and Aldridge are the only bigs on playoff contenders who could beat up on KL down low and Leonard would feast on offense against Jokic and LMA. |
If you're the Clippers do you really want Kawhi being tasked with defending the rim every possession as well as carrying your offense, even in short stints? I think GSW has skewed the perception of small ball. The Death Lineup is largely a defensive unit more than offensive. It only works when Draymond plays like an elite rim protector and it only works for short stints. Without that rim protection you just have an undersized guy at the 5 getting scored on every possession. |
If you are hitting the 3 ball then you take that trade off every time.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: |
If you are hitting the 3 ball then you take that trade off every time. |
Not with Kawhi at the 5 you don't. Draymond is one of the only guys in the league who can make it work and firstly he's solid as hell, and secondly it's taken a toll on even his body. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
If you are hitting the 3 ball then you take that trade off every time. |
Not with Kawhi at the 5 you don't. Draymond is one of the only guys in the league who can make it work and firstly he's solid as hell, and secondly it's taken a toll on even his body. |
PJ Tucker makes it work.
PJ (bleep) Tucker.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
If you are hitting the 3 ball then you take that trade off every time. |
Not with Kawhi at the 5 you don't. Draymond is one of the only guys in the league who can make it work and firstly he's solid as hell, and secondly it's taken a toll on even his body. |
Not to mention Draymond is fantastic at passing out of that 5 spot which is probably Kawhi's biggest weakness along with his health which like several others have said would only be tested even further going against big bodies all the time.
I would love if they chose to do that as a Lakers fan though. |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: |
PJ Tucker makes it work.
PJ (bleep) Tucker. |
He's a solid boi though 0.0
A pretty intimidating specimen.
Kawhi's body is pretty fragile right now. |
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| hype wrote: | | drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
If you are hitting the 3 ball then you take that trade off every time. |
Not with Kawhi at the 5 you don't. Draymond is one of the only guys in the league who can make it work and firstly he's solid as hell, and secondly it's taken a toll on even his body. |
Not to mention Draymond is fantastic at passing out of that 5 spot which is probably Kawhi's biggest weakness along with his health which like several others have said would only be tested even further going against big bodies all the time.
I would love if they chose to do that as a Lakers fan though. |
Kawhi has been improving as a passer, no?
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| drae wrote: | Kawhi's dodgy quad was brought about by chronic overuse. He'll have to manage it for the rest of his career which is why he's load managing his seasons to death. It's also why he doesn't look quite the same in finals when he has to play back to back to back to back.
Not only did Kawhi have a bad quad, but he overcompensated and had tendonitis in his good knee during the finals against the GSW.
Banging with big dudes is something he may be able to do for a game, banging with big dudes in a best of 7 finals series or throughout the whole year is a nice way to shorten Kawhi's career. |
I think that's also why he's recently started to take this stance of..I don't care about the regular season at all, only the playoffs. Attempting to deflect and downplay the fact that he's not physically capable of playing a full season. I don't buy it for a second when he says that he's 100% now and this year will be different.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | hype wrote: | | drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
If you are hitting the 3 ball then you take that trade off every time. |
Not with Kawhi at the 5 you don't. Draymond is one of the only guys in the league who can make it work and firstly he's solid as hell, and secondly it's taken a toll on even his body. |
Not to mention Draymond is fantastic at passing out of that 5 spot which is probably Kawhi's biggest weakness along with his health which like several others have said would only be tested even further going against big bodies all the time.
I would love if they chose to do that as a Lakers fan though. |
Kawhi has been improving as a passer, no? |
Yeah, I can't deny that. There is no doubt he seems to have improved but he's still nothing special (as a passer). If health wasn't a massive issue i'd say it's worth an experiment, especially against certain lineups but as things are I wouldn't put him in that position often especially with George's health a question mark even when he does finally return. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
If you are hitting the 3 ball then you take that trade off every time. |
Not with Kawhi at the 5 you don't. Draymond is one of the only guys in the league who can make it work and firstly he's solid as hell, and secondly it's taken a toll on even his body. |
please play kawhi a lot at the 5 this year! |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| drae wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: |
PJ Tucker makes it work.
PJ (bleep) Tucker. |
He's a solid boi though 0.0
A pretty intimidating specimen.
Kawhi's body is pretty fragile right now. |
To keep it Lakers related, THT is built like PJ Tucker.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| cal1piggy wrote: | | drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
If you are hitting the 3 ball then you take that trade off every time. |
Not with Kawhi at the 5 you don't. Draymond is one of the only guys in the league who can make it work and firstly he's solid as hell, and secondly it's taken a toll on even his body. |
please play kawhi a lot at the 5 this year! |
His quad does not approve |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | drae wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: |
PJ Tucker makes it work.
PJ (bleep) Tucker. |
He's a solid boi though 0.0
A pretty intimidating specimen.
Kawhi's body is pretty fragile right now. |
To keep it Lakers related, THT is built like PJ Tucker. |
umm, he still build like Dudley right now |
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| governator wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | drae wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: |
PJ Tucker makes it work.
PJ (bleep) Tucker. |
He's a solid boi though 0.0
A pretty intimidating specimen.
Kawhi's body is pretty fragile right now. |
To keep it Lakers related, THT is built like PJ Tucker. |
umm, he still build like Dudley right now |
Dudley wishes he had that wingspan.
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | drae wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: |
PJ Tucker makes it work.
PJ (bleep) Tucker. |
He's a solid boi though 0.0
A pretty intimidating specimen.
Kawhi's body is pretty fragile right now. |
To keep it Lakers related, THT is built like PJ Tucker. |
umm, he still build like Dudley right now |
Dudley wishes he had that wingspan. |
clarence weatherspoon? |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| governator wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | drae wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: |
PJ Tucker makes it work.
PJ (bleep) Tucker. |
He's a solid boi though 0.0
A pretty intimidating specimen.
Kawhi's body is pretty fragile right now. |
To keep it Lakers related, THT is built like PJ Tucker. |
umm, he still build like Dudley right now |
Dudley wishes he had that wingspan. |
clarence weatherspoon? |
Deep cut. Built like Weatherspoon but with guard skills.
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| defense wrote: | | cal1piggy wrote: | | drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
If you are hitting the 3 ball then you take that trade off every time. |
Not with Kawhi at the 5 you don't. Draymond is one of the only guys in the league who can make it work and firstly he's solid as hell, and secondly it's taken a toll on even his body. |
please play kawhi a lot at the 5 this year! |
His quad does not approve |
but laker fans approve and a lot! |
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Avery Bradley admits having had hard feelings for Clippers after trade
| Quote: | Avery Bradley’s stint with the Clippers came to an end in disappointing fashion with the veteran guard getting traded to the Memphis Grizzlies.
Bradley wasn’t happy about the trade as he admitted on Monday that there were some hard feelings toward the Clippers organization after he was sent packing to the lowly Grizzlies, but things have changed. |
https://clutchpoints.com/lakers-news-avery-bradley-admits-having-had-hard-feelings-for-clippers-after-trade/ |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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My favorite Laker right now.
His effort is incredible.
First time I have seen the Lakers have a defensive minded and defensively skilled starting point guard in my life time. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | My favorite Laker right now.
His effort is incredible.
First time I have seen the Lakers have a defensive minded starting point guard in my life time. |
really good tonight. loved the signing |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| He's the Marcus Banks we've always needed. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Money well spent. |
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Solid game with two scoring guys in Mitchell and Conley.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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He needs to be playing 30 minutes a game.
Right now Vogel isn't playing him enough. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I don’t know if the tone is set with him when you got guys like Green and AD out there but Lakers D tonight ... for long stretches ... was so disruptive. Bradley was in mix taking out the tip of the spear. Jazz never got comfortable tonight. |
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