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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:08 am    Post subject:

This place is about to get WORSE much much worse

One dumb scared police officer...scratch.
LIVE ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION?? for protestors

Scared cop shoots protestor in chest. Then fires off two more rounds
Endangering all of History IMHO

If protestors lose their sanity because cops are murdering them then they will seek revenge

The video on the page most likely shows the protestor getting shot so NSFW is my guess.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/11/hong-kong-protester-shot-street-confrontation-police-191111013907715.html
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:04 am    Post subject:

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HK is being bullied so HK is fighting back. HK is very much against facial recognition that China is trying to force.


I bet the citizens of HK were hoping China was going to turn democratic by the time 2047 rolled around, instead its going the other way. Unfortunately for them I don't see a happy ending considering Beijing would rather let them destroy their city before they give them a single concession.


totally sucks. They would be better off with the old British Law



There's a nostalgic yearning for the "good old days" under the Brits, only at the time (and for that generation) the good old days weren't really so good. There was a feeling of exploitation in the air, as HK felt that the Brits were self-serving during their governance. In a weird, abstract way, perhaps the North American colonies that demanding succession felt the same way, as laws were dictated on the other side of the world, and that the taxes were a stranglehold.

Some of the older HKers feel that the younger generation doesn't appreciate the discrimination under the Brits, but to me that's an emotive issue. On a rational basis, HK was better administered back then, had less housing problems, had no fear of government spying or reprisal, had a free press, and more economic opportunity. It just lacked suitable self-representation, and I do blame the Brits for that.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:13 am    Post subject:

The central government will never let HK gain any freedoms, they would rather raze the entire city to the ground and repopulate it with pro-CCP citizens. Thats just the reality these protesters are learning when you see the HK police doing the dirty work for them.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:36 pm    Post subject:

A dire warning to the world left by PolyU (HK) students
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:23 pm    Post subject:

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A dire warning to the world left by PolyU (HK) students
https://imgur.com/gallery/0pimcMm


A girlfriend of mine was from Taiwan. She said they used to tell her there are enough Chinese that they could all spit in the ocean towards Taiwan and create a giant tidal wave that would end any fight

Nearing 1.5 Billion mainland Chinese
Approximately 500% more people than all of America
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:25 am    Post subject:

trapped American students (exchange students) in the university of HK or something? trapped with protesters barricaded by police or military? Anybody know the real story?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:21 am    Post subject:

Looking more and more like this will turn into another Tiananmen situation.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 12:12 pm    Post subject:

Looks like it’s the endgame for HK. RIP “One country, two systems.”

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China Moves to Impose New Hong Kong Security Laws, Tightening Its Control
Such rules would allow Beijing to take aim at the protests that have roiled the semiautonomous city and posed a direct challenge to the Chinese Communist Party and its leader, Xi Jinping.

By Keith Bradsher, Austin Ramzy and Tiffany May
May 14, 2020
BEIJING — China is moving to impose new national security laws that would give the Communist Party more control over Hong Kong, threatening to erode the freedoms that distinguish the global, commercial city from the rest of the country.

The proposal, announced on Thursday, reignited the fear, anger and protests over the creeping influence of China’s authoritarian government in the semiautonomous region. It also inflamed worries that Beijing is trying to dismantle the distinct political and cultural identity that has defined the former British colony since it was reclaimed by China in 1997.

In the party’s view, such laws are necessary to protect China’s sovereignty from external forces determined to undermine its rule. The legislation would give Beijing power to take aim at the large, often violent antigovernment protests that roiled Hong Kong for much of last year — unrest that has posed a direct challenge to the party and its top leader, Xi Jinping.

Similar rules proposed by the Hong Kong government in 2003 would have empowered the authorities to close seditious newspapers and conduct searches without warrants. That proposal was abandoned after it triggered large protests.

This time, a broad outline for the new rules would likely be approved by China’s rubber stamp legislature, the National People’s Congress, which holds its annual session starting Friday. The process would effectively circumvent the Hong Kong government, undercutting the relative autonomy granted to the territory through a political formula known as “one country, two systems.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/world/asia/hong-kong-china.htm
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 1:04 pm    Post subject:

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Looks like it’s the endgame for HK. RIP “One country, two systems.”

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China Moves to Impose New Hong Kong Security Laws, Tightening Its Control
Such rules would allow Beijing to take aim at the protests that have roiled the semiautonomous city and posed a direct challenge to the Chinese Communist Party and its leader, Xi Jinping.

By Keith Bradsher, Austin Ramzy and Tiffany May
May 14, 2020
BEIJING — China is moving to impose new national security laws that would give the Communist Party more control over Hong Kong, threatening to erode the freedoms that distinguish the global, commercial city from the rest of the country.

The proposal, announced on Thursday, reignited the fear, anger and protests over the creeping influence of China’s authoritarian government in the semiautonomous region. It also inflamed worries that Beijing is trying to dismantle the distinct political and cultural identity that has defined the former British colony since it was reclaimed by China in 1997.

In the party’s view, such laws are necessary to protect China’s sovereignty from external forces determined to undermine its rule. The legislation would give Beijing power to take aim at the large, often violent antigovernment protests that roiled Hong Kong for much of last year — unrest that has posed a direct challenge to the party and its top leader, Xi Jinping.

Similar rules proposed by the Hong Kong government in 2003 would have empowered the authorities to close seditious newspapers and conduct searches without warrants. That proposal was abandoned after it triggered large protests.

This time, a broad outline for the new rules would likely be approved by China’s rubber stamp legislature, the National People’s Congress, which holds its annual session starting Friday. The process would effectively circumvent the Hong Kong government, undercutting the relative autonomy granted to the territory through a political formula known as “one country, two systems.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/world/asia/hong-kong-china.htm



so what does Morey and LBJ say about this?

on a more serious note, please research on what freedom hk has before 1997, and how hk failed to legislate its own national security law for 23 years. The exact same law that is legislated in Macau, but American casinos are still there.

I'm going to hold spain catalonia as the golden western standard for this sort of situation. Let me know when the hk political leaders are sentenced to 9-13 years in prison for misuse of public funds. Do you know how much tax hk pays china each year like catalonians pays the spanish gov? a big fat zero
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 1:10 pm    Post subject:

maomao wrote:
XTC wrote:
Looks like it’s the endgame for HK. RIP “One country, two systems.”

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China Moves to Impose New Hong Kong Security Laws, Tightening Its Control
Such rules would allow Beijing to take aim at the protests that have roiled the semiautonomous city and posed a direct challenge to the Chinese Communist Party and its leader, Xi Jinping.

By Keith Bradsher, Austin Ramzy and Tiffany May
May 14, 2020
BEIJING — China is moving to impose new national security laws that would give the Communist Party more control over Hong Kong, threatening to erode the freedoms that distinguish the global, commercial city from the rest of the country.

The proposal, announced on Thursday, reignited the fear, anger and protests over the creeping influence of China’s authoritarian government in the semiautonomous region. It also inflamed worries that Beijing is trying to dismantle the distinct political and cultural identity that has defined the former British colony since it was reclaimed by China in 1997.

In the party’s view, such laws are necessary to protect China’s sovereignty from external forces determined to undermine its rule. The legislation would give Beijing power to take aim at the large, often violent antigovernment protests that roiled Hong Kong for much of last year — unrest that has posed a direct challenge to the party and its top leader, Xi Jinping.

Similar rules proposed by the Hong Kong government in 2003 would have empowered the authorities to close seditious newspapers and conduct searches without warrants. That proposal was abandoned after it triggered large protests.

This time, a broad outline for the new rules would likely be approved by China’s rubber stamp legislature, the National People’s Congress, which holds its annual session starting Friday. The process would effectively circumvent the Hong Kong government, undercutting the relative autonomy granted to the territory through a political formula known as “one country, two systems.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/world/asia/hong-kong-china.htm



so what does Morey and LBJ say about this?

on a more serious note, please research on what freedom hk has before 1997, and how hk failed to legislate its own national security law for 23 years. The exact same law that is legislated in Macau, but American casinos are still there.

I'm going to hold spain catalonia as the golden western standard for this sort of situation. Let me know when the hk political leaders are sentenced to 9-13 years in prison for misuse of public funds. Do you know how much tax hk pays china each year like catalonians pays the spanish gov? a big fat zero


I'm assuming you're in favor of the mainland government and its system of rule.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2020 1:16 pm    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
maomao wrote:
XTC wrote:
Looks like it’s the endgame for HK. RIP “One country, two systems.”

Quote:

China Moves to Impose New Hong Kong Security Laws, Tightening Its Control
Such rules would allow Beijing to take aim at the protests that have roiled the semiautonomous city and posed a direct challenge to the Chinese Communist Party and its leader, Xi Jinping.

By Keith Bradsher, Austin Ramzy and Tiffany May
May 14, 2020
BEIJING — China is moving to impose new national security laws that would give the Communist Party more control over Hong Kong, threatening to erode the freedoms that distinguish the global, commercial city from the rest of the country.

The proposal, announced on Thursday, reignited the fear, anger and protests over the creeping influence of China’s authoritarian government in the semiautonomous region. It also inflamed worries that Beijing is trying to dismantle the distinct political and cultural identity that has defined the former British colony since it was reclaimed by China in 1997.

In the party’s view, such laws are necessary to protect China’s sovereignty from external forces determined to undermine its rule. The legislation would give Beijing power to take aim at the large, often violent antigovernment protests that roiled Hong Kong for much of last year — unrest that has posed a direct challenge to the party and its top leader, Xi Jinping.

Similar rules proposed by the Hong Kong government in 2003 would have empowered the authorities to close seditious newspapers and conduct searches without warrants. That proposal was abandoned after it triggered large protests.

This time, a broad outline for the new rules would likely be approved by China’s rubber stamp legislature, the National People’s Congress, which holds its annual session starting Friday. The process would effectively circumvent the Hong Kong government, undercutting the relative autonomy granted to the territory through a political formula known as “one country, two systems.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/world/asia/hong-kong-china.htm



so what does Morey and LBJ say about this?

on a more serious note, please research on what freedom hk has before 1997, and how hk failed to legislate its own national security law for 23 years. The exact same law that is legislated in Macau, but American casinos are still there.

I'm going to hold spain catalonia as the golden western standard for this sort of situation. Let me know when the hk political leaders are sentenced to 9-13 years in prison for misuse of public funds. Do you know how much tax hk pays china each year like catalonians pays the spanish gov? a big fat zero


I'm assuming you're in favor of the mainland government and its system of rule.


that's like saying I'm assuming you supporting our current fed government for being an american.

no government is perfect, there are both positive points and negative points in any government depends on your own point of view.
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maomao wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
maomao wrote:
XTC wrote:
Looks like it’s the endgame for HK. RIP “One country, two systems.”

Quote:

China Moves to Impose New Hong Kong Security Laws, Tightening Its Control
Such rules would allow Beijing to take aim at the protests that have roiled the semiautonomous city and posed a direct challenge to the Chinese Communist Party and its leader, Xi Jinping.

By Keith Bradsher, Austin Ramzy and Tiffany May
May 14, 2020
BEIJING — China is moving to impose new national security laws that would give the Communist Party more control over Hong Kong, threatening to erode the freedoms that distinguish the global, commercial city from the rest of the country.

The proposal, announced on Thursday, reignited the fear, anger and protests over the creeping influence of China’s authoritarian government in the semiautonomous region. It also inflamed worries that Beijing is trying to dismantle the distinct political and cultural identity that has defined the former British colony since it was reclaimed by China in 1997.

In the party’s view, such laws are necessary to protect China’s sovereignty from external forces determined to undermine its rule. The legislation would give Beijing power to take aim at the large, often violent antigovernment protests that roiled Hong Kong for much of last year — unrest that has posed a direct challenge to the party and its top leader, Xi Jinping.

Similar rules proposed by the Hong Kong government in 2003 would have empowered the authorities to close seditious newspapers and conduct searches without warrants. That proposal was abandoned after it triggered large protests.

This time, a broad outline for the new rules would likely be approved by China’s rubber stamp legislature, the National People’s Congress, which holds its annual session starting Friday. The process would effectively circumvent the Hong Kong government, undercutting the relative autonomy granted to the territory through a political formula known as “one country, two systems.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/world/asia/hong-kong-china.htm



so what does Morey and LBJ say about this?

on a more serious note, please research on what freedom hk has before 1997, and how hk failed to legislate its own national security law for 23 years. The exact same law that is legislated in Macau, but American casinos are still there.

I'm going to hold spain catalonia as the golden western standard for this sort of situation. Let me know when the hk political leaders are sentenced to 9-13 years in prison for misuse of public funds. Do you know how much tax hk pays china each year like catalonians pays the spanish gov? a big fat zero


I'm assuming you're in favor of the mainland government and its system of rule.


that's like saying I'm assuming you supporting our current fed government for being an american.

no government is perfect, there are both positive points and negative points in any government depends on your own point of view.


That would be the point of the question. You seem rather anti-HK government and pro Chinese mainland, and I'm just trying to verify. And no, it's not the same as me being an American meaning I support anything in particular. You're posting about it, so my assumptions are coming from your posts, and I'm asking if I'm getting the correct vibe.
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That would be the point of the question. You seem rather anti-HK government and pro Chinese mainland, and I'm just trying to verify. And no, it's not the same as me being an American meaning I support anything in particular. You're posting about it, so my assumptions are coming from your posts, and I'm asking if I'm getting the correct vibe.


well, I'm not sure what you're saying, HK government is under the Chinese government. The point is, even with HK government being so small, there are both good and bad points/people in it. The chinese government? obviously some are good and some are bad given its size.

I'm not sure how to answer this because I don't know if I'm supporting the US government if I don't support the fed government?

so supporting a government in its entirety doesn't make sense for me. I can tell you if I support a particular politician or policy
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That would be the point of the question. You seem rather anti-HK government and pro Chinese mainland, and I'm just trying to verify. And no, it's not the same as me being an American meaning I support anything in particular. You're posting about it, so my assumptions are coming from your posts, and I'm asking if I'm getting the correct vibe.


well, I'm not sure what you're saying, HK government is under the Chinese government. The point is, even with HK government being so small, there are both good and bad points/people in it. The chinese government? obviously some are good and some are bad given its size.

I'm not sure how to answer this because I don't know if I'm supporting the US government if I don't support the fed government?

so supporting a government in its entirety doesn't make sense for me. I can tell you if I support a particular politician or policy


Wow, you make chasing you around in circles hard. Simple question: are you in favor of the HK government remaining more autonomous or are you in favor of moving toward full mainland control?
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That would be the point of the question. You seem rather anti-HK government and pro Chinese mainland, and I'm just trying to verify. And no, it's not the same as me being an American meaning I support anything in particular. You're posting about it, so my assumptions are coming from your posts, and I'm asking if I'm getting the correct vibe.


well, I'm not sure what you're saying, HK government is under the Chinese government. The point is, even with HK government being so small, there are both good and bad points/people in it. The chinese government? obviously some are good and some are bad given its size.

I'm not sure how to answer this because I don't know if I'm supporting the US government if I don't support the fed government?

so supporting a government in its entirety doesn't make sense for me. I can tell you if I support a particular politician or policy


Wow, you make chasing you around in circles hard. Simple question: are you in favor of the HK government remaining more autonomous or are you in favor of moving toward full mainland control?


neither

I'm in favor of hk maintaining its autonomy to the same degree as macau.

believe it or not, hk people has more freedom than us Californian do.

let me know what more autonomy/freedom you want if you're not paying the central/fed government any tax, and your state run media is constantly pushing for sedition/anti central/fed government non stop.
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believe it or not, hk people has more freedom than us Californian do.


yikes.
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believe it or not, hk people has more freedom than us Californian do.


yikes.

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believe it or not, hk people has more freedom than us Californian do.


yikes.

Tankies gonna tank.


well let's make a quick comparison between californian hkers




Hkers
pays no tax to chinese government
politicians and elected officials are US, UK, AU or other european citizens
no national security law (they are trying to change this now)
political parties are free to accept money from NGO from the US


Californian
pays fed tax
politicians and elected officials are US citizens and can not be chinese citizens
national security law like patriot act is enforced


go watch some videos and see what hker are doing to their police, try that here in CA and see what happens
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
C M B wrote:
maomao wrote:


believe it or not, hk people has more freedom than us Californian do.


yikes.

Tankies gonna tank.


well let's make a quick comparison between californian hkers




Hkers
pays no tax to chinese government
politicians and elected officials are US, UK, AU or other european citizens
no national security law (they are trying to change this now)
political parties are free to accept money from NGO from the US


Californian
pays fed tax
politicians and elected officials are US citizens and can not be chinese citizens
national security law like patriot act is enforced


go watch some videos and see what hker are doing to their police, try that here in CA and see what happens

Pretty sure I can just walk around Huntington Beach wearing camo, an American flag, and an AR-15 as a "protest" and the cops won't do (bleep). Can the HK protestors do that?
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maomao wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
C M B wrote:
maomao wrote:


believe it or not, hk people has more freedom than us Californian do.


yikes.

Tankies gonna tank.


well let's make a quick comparison between californian hkers




Hkers
pays no tax to chinese government
politicians and elected officials are US, UK, AU or other european citizens
no national security law (they are trying to change this now)
political parties are free to accept money from NGO from the US


Californian
pays fed tax
politicians and elected officials are US citizens and can not be chinese citizens
national security law like patriot act is enforced


go watch some videos and see what hker are doing to their police, try that here in CA and see what happens

Pretty sure I can just walk around Huntington Beach wearing camo, an American flag, and an AR-15 as a "protest" and the cops won't do (bleep). Can the HK protestors do that?



yes, except the AR-15 because that's illegal itself.
but try yelling at police and threatening their families and see what happens
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maomao wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
maomao wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
C M B wrote:
maomao wrote:


believe it or not, hk people has more freedom than us Californian do.


yikes.

Tankies gonna tank.


well let's make a quick comparison between californian hkers




Hkers
pays no tax to chinese government
politicians and elected officials are US, UK, AU or other european citizens
no national security law (they are trying to change this now)
political parties are free to accept money from NGO from the US


Californian
pays fed tax
politicians and elected officials are US citizens and can not be chinese citizens
national security law like patriot act is enforced


go watch some videos and see what hker are doing to their police, try that here in CA and see what happens

Pretty sure I can just walk around Huntington Beach wearing camo, an American flag, and an AR-15 as a "protest" and the cops won't do (bleep). Can the HK protestors do that?



yes, except the AR-15 because that's illegal itself.
but try yelling at police and threatening their families and see what happens

1) not having the right to bear arms doesn't seem like freedom to me

2) look up the Sacramento protests
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
maomao wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
maomao wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
C M B wrote:
maomao wrote:


believe it or not, hk people has more freedom than us Californian do.


yikes.

Tankies gonna tank.


well let's make a quick comparison between californian hkers




Hkers
pays no tax to chinese government
politicians and elected officials are US, UK, AU or other european citizens
no national security law (they are trying to change this now)
political parties are free to accept money from NGO from the US


Californian
pays fed tax
politicians and elected officials are US citizens and can not be chinese citizens
national security law like patriot act is enforced


go watch some videos and see what hker are doing to their police, try that here in CA and see what happens

Pretty sure I can just walk around Huntington Beach wearing camo, an American flag, and an AR-15 as a "protest" and the cops won't do (bleep). Can the HK protestors do that?



yes, except the AR-15 because that's illegal itself.
but try yelling at police and threatening their families and see what happens

1) not having the right to bear arms doesn't seem like freedom to me

2) look up the Sacramento protests


it's one type of freedom, but that comes at a cost. Compare the number of civilians killed by police in CA vs in HK and you will see.

to add to this topic, HK has higher freedom index than US, has no national security law. Macau has national security law since 2009. What has HK done to deserve a special treatment over Macau?

as an American, do you want to see our tax dollars going to HK politicians to fund their protests? You would rather fund our own protests for this upcoming election right?
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 1:30 pm    Post subject:

maomao wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
maomao wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
maomao wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
C M B wrote:
maomao wrote:


believe it or not, hk people has more freedom than us Californian do.


yikes.

Tankies gonna tank.


well let's make a quick comparison between californian hkers




Hkers
pays no tax to chinese government
politicians and elected officials are US, UK, AU or other european citizens
no national security law (they are trying to change this now)
political parties are free to accept money from NGO from the US


Californian
pays fed tax
politicians and elected officials are US citizens and can not be chinese citizens
national security law like patriot act is enforced


go watch some videos and see what hker are doing to their police, try that here in CA and see what happens

Pretty sure I can just walk around Huntington Beach wearing camo, an American flag, and an AR-15 as a "protest" and the cops won't do (bleep). Can the HK protestors do that?



yes, except the AR-15 because that's illegal itself.
but try yelling at police and threatening their families and see what happens

1) not having the right to bear arms doesn't seem like freedom to me

2) look up the Sacramento protests


it's one type of freedom, but that comes at a cost. Compare the number of civilians killed by police in CA vs in HK and you will see.

to add to this topic, HK has higher freedom index than US, has no national security law. Macau has national security law since 2009. What has HK done to deserve a special treatment over Macau?

as an American, do you want to see our tax dollars going to HK politicians to fund their protests? You would rather fund our own protests for this upcoming election right?

What has Macau done to "deserve" a national security law?
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 1:34 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:

What has Macau done to "deserve" a national security law?


please tell me any where that do not have a national security law.

we have it here too, what have we californian done to deserve the patriot act?
and we are also paying taxes to the fed, what have they done to deserve our tax dollars?
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