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I like listening to the Locked on Lakers Podcast everyday and this morning
Pete from Lakers Film Room was a guest. I have respect for both of these
guys for their knowledge. However....
Every time the name of Kurt Rambis is muttered, neither one can contain
their hatred and lack of respect for him. His coaching failures are frequently
cited as to why he has zero business being in any front office.
We all know from Phil Jackson, that someone who is a genius as a coach
might not succeed as a front office guy. There are clearly differences in skills
needed to do either successfully. Success at one doesn't necessarily
translate to one. So why is it assumed that failure from one transfers over to
the other?
Secondly, the Timberwolves and Knicks both sucked and had major talent
issues. I don't how amazing of a coach you are, if you don't have good
players on your team, you aren't going to have success.
So is there some insider information I am missing? Something we know
about his IQ or past? Is all of this criticism deserved? Thoughts?
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Let's frame it another way. What has Kurt Rambis accomplished in a front office to justify him having a high level role (basically the assistant GM) in the Lakers organization? The answer is nothing. He has no FO experience (something that we unfortunately seem to view as a plus). No training under someone experienced and accomplished. He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery.
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| ocho wrote: | | He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
I think this is the issue. There is nepotism and then there is nepotism.
Someone like Mike Shanahan, who has been accused of nepotism actually was right about his son who is one of the more respected offensive minds in football. You could say Jesse Buss has built a great reputation too but that’s a different case anyway because he is part owner.
The issue with Kurt being in his role is it is 100% due to Linda Rambis being Jeanie’s best friend and that kind of nepotism can’t happen in a professional sports organization. |
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| ocho wrote: | | Let's frame it another way. What has Kurt Rambis accomplished in a front office to justify him having a high level role (basically the assistant GM) in the Lakers organization? The answer is nothing. He has no FO experience (something that we unfortunately seem to view as a plus). No training under someone experienced and accomplished. He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
Well, let's look at that another way. Did Linda Rambis get hired by the Lakers BECAUSE of the Lakers relationship with Kurt Rambis? Rambis has been with the team as a player and an assistance coach before Linda ever came on board. So why are we assuming Kurt's coming back on board is because of Linda?
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| TheGodfather wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Let's frame it another way. What has Kurt Rambis accomplished in a front office to justify him having a high level role (basically the assistant GM) in the Lakers organization? The answer is nothing. He has no FO experience (something that we unfortunately seem to view as a plus). No training under someone experienced and accomplished. He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
Well, let's look at that another way. Did Linda Rambis get hired by the Lakers BECAUSE of the Lakers relationship with Kurt Rambis? Rambis has been with the team as a player and an assistance coach before Linda ever came on board. So why are we assuming Kurt's coming back on board is because of Linda? |
Precisely because without that connection it makes no sense for Kurt to be hired in the first place and there's a well documented history of nepotism in our organization. Kurt is taking the place of somebody capable and experienced and that should bother you.
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| ocho wrote: | | TheGodfather wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Let's frame it another way. What has Kurt Rambis accomplished in a front office to justify him having a high level role (basically the assistant GM) in the Lakers organization? The answer is nothing. He has no FO experience (something that we unfortunately seem to view as a plus). No training under someone experienced and accomplished. He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
Well, let's look at that another way. Did Linda Rambis get hired by the Lakers BECAUSE of the Lakers relationship with Kurt Rambis? Rambis has been with the team as a player and an assistance coach before Linda ever came on board. So why are we assuming Kurt's coming back on board is because of Linda? |
Precisely because without that connection it makes no sense for Kurt to be hired in the first place and there's a well documented history of nepotism in our organization. Kurt is taking the place of somebody capable and experienced and that should bother you. |
I don't think there is any doubt that nepotism is a huge issue. But that doesn't mean that Kurt cannot be successful in this role. Just seems that maybe we ought to wait and see what happens in the next 2-3 years with the organization before we make any kind of judgment on his front office abilities. Or will it just be assumed that if we do when two titles it will be in spite of him?
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| LakerSD wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
I think this is the issue. There is nepotism and then there is nepotism.
Someone like Mike Shanahan, who has been accused of nepotism actually was right about his son who is one of the more respected offensive minds in football. You could say Jesse Buss has built a great reputation too but that’s a different case anyway because he is part owner.
The issue with Kurt being in his role is it is 100% due to Linda Rambis being Jeanie’s best friend and that kind of nepotism can’t happen in a professional sports organization. |
Our front office is almost entirely comprised of Jerry Buss' kids, Kobe's agent, Jerry West's son, and the owner's best friend and her husband (who was a former Laker player). If that isn't a nepotism problem what would one look like?
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| ocho wrote: | | Let's frame it another way. What has Kurt Rambis accomplished in a front office to justify him having a high level role (basically the assistant GM) in the Lakers organization? The answer is nothing. He has no FO experience (something that we unfortunately seem to view as a plus). No training under someone experienced and accomplished. He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
That is a big part of the NBA.....nepotism is extremely strong in the league. Does anyone think Ryan West came in off the street and completed a job application in El Segundo? What did Danny Ainge ever do to deserve to be named Executive Director of Basketball Operations for the Celtics in 2003? It is kind of a recent thing, and still limited for guys to actually earn Executive positions in front offices based on previous good work in a sports FO or a sports management career. |
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| TheGodfather wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | TheGodfather wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Let's frame it another way. What has Kurt Rambis accomplished in a front office to justify him having a high level role (basically the assistant GM) in the Lakers organization? The answer is nothing. He has no FO experience (something that we unfortunately seem to view as a plus). No training under someone experienced and accomplished. He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
Well, let's look at that another way. Did Linda Rambis get hired by the Lakers BECAUSE of the Lakers relationship with Kurt Rambis? Rambis has been with the team as a player and an assistance coach before Linda ever came on board. So why are we assuming Kurt's coming back on board is because of Linda? |
Precisely because without that connection it makes no sense for Kurt to be hired in the first place and there's a well documented history of nepotism in our organization. Kurt is taking the place of somebody capable and experienced and that should bother you. |
I don't think there is any doubt that nepotism is a huge issue. But that doesn't mean that Kurt cannot be successful in this role. Just seems that maybe we ought to wait and see what happens in the next 2-3 years with the organization before we make any kind of judgment on his front office abilities. Or will it just be assumed that if we do when two titles it will be in spite of him? |
Hiring a bunch of inexperienced people because they're your pals and crossing your fingers that they stumble into success is not a sound strategy from a serious owner. We can bypass the whole waiting several years thing and just hire someone good who has already proven themselves. But she wants her buddies. Thats embarrassing, and that's why you're hearing that kind of 7th grade thinking being mocked on a podcast.
Btw the same "we need to wait 3 years before we judge" line was said about Magic Johnson. Maybe we should just stop operating this way so we don't have to wait 3 years after the last inexperienced person fails?
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| adkindo wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Let's frame it another way. What has Kurt Rambis accomplished in a front office to justify him having a high level role (basically the assistant GM) in the Lakers organization? The answer is nothing. He has no FO experience (something that we unfortunately seem to view as a plus). No training under someone experienced and accomplished. He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
That is a big part of the NBA.....nepotism is extremely strong in the league. Does anyone think Ryan West came in off the street and completed a job application in El Segundo? What did Danny Ainge ever do to deserve to be named Executive Director of Basketball Operations for the Celtics in 2003? It is kind of a recent thing, and still limited for guys to actually earn Executive positions in front offices based on previous good work in a sports FO or a sports management career. |
We didn't invent nepotism but we certainly took it to new heights.
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| Jeanie has people in the Lakers FO she trusts. It's her way of doing things. If the Lakers were not able to contend for a title, due to this, I would be upset. The Lakers FO has brought in 2 superstars in consecutive summers. One of them a Mount Rushmore possibly all time great. Then, the following year, the best big in basketball in his prime. Meanwhile they've stocked up in role players and talented players for 2 years until they can make a run for the best player in the league currently (Giannis). I don't know why there's so much talk about the incompetency of the Lakers FO. In 2 years since they made the changes from the old regime, the Lakers have transformed back into the type of team and set up they had under Dr Buss. I don't care if Jeanie likes having her friends and trusted employees around only. If the results are that we have superstars on the team, contending for a title while positioning the franchise to sign further stars. I'm all for it. |
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I'm beginning to think any previous involvement from the Rambii was simply them being forced to get involved due to Magic being an absentee buffoon of a POBO... and because Jeanie doesn't get personally involved with basketball operations (rightly so). We (the fan-base) then jumped on their backs because of how bad the situation was and because the media were putting their usual negative spin on everything Lakers.
Anyway, the FO (Jeanie, Rob, Jesse, West Jr., the Rambii, Harris, whoever) + Richie Paul have made really good moves this off-season... so I don't have anything to complain about. They've knocked the off-season out of the ball-park really:
1) Hired a good coaching staff... Vogel, Kidd, Hollins, Handy, Penberthy.
2) Signed AD and built a team around LBJ/AD that can compete against any others.
3) Brought in some good recruits for the G-league team... Norvell, Holman, Allen, Cacok, Caroline, Miller-McIntyre.
4) Didn't add to the drama that Magic created and no leaks to media.
The only thing left for the FO to do now is to sign a back-up small forward who could be used in the line-up to defend Kawhi/PG types when needed. Also, to keep an eye out for any good trades/deals that may come up in the winter. The rest is in the hands of the coaches and players.
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| ocho wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
I think this is the issue. There is nepotism and then there is nepotism.
Someone like Mike Shanahan, who has been accused of nepotism actually was right about his son who is one of the more respected offensive minds in football. You could say Jesse Buss has built a great reputation too but that’s a different case anyway because he is part owner.
The issue with Kurt being in his role is it is 100% due to Linda Rambis being Jeanie’s best friend and that kind of nepotism can’t happen in a professional sports organization. |
Our front office is almost entirely comprised of Jerry Buss' kids, Kobe's agent, Jerry West's son, and the owner's best friend and her husband (who was a former Laker player). If that isn't a nepotism problem what would one look like? |
That’s why I said there is nepotism and then there is nepotism.
At least West’s son has proven himself. The Buss kids are owners by inheritance so that is what it is.
Rambis has proven that he is not good at anything basketball related outside of his playing career. Similar to Magic.
Kobe’s agent is tbd and he was hired strictly to keep Kobe happy and open line of communication with the Lakers.
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| ocho wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Let's frame it another way. What has Kurt Rambis accomplished in a front office to justify him having a high level role (basically the assistant GM) in the Lakers organization? The answer is nothing. He has no FO experience (something that we unfortunately seem to view as a plus). No training under someone experienced and accomplished. He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
That is a big part of the NBA.....nepotism is extremely strong in the league. Does anyone think Ryan West came in off the street and completed a job application in El Segundo? What did Danny Ainge ever do to deserve to be named Executive Director of Basketball Operations for the Celtics in 2003? It is kind of a recent thing, and still limited for guys to actually earn Executive positions in front offices based on previous good work in a sports FO or a sports management career. |
We didn't invent nepotism but we certainly took it to new heights. |
we just gave a contract to a guy that is almost 22 years old, and could barely get playing time at Dayton because of his last name. |
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| ocho wrote: | | TheGodfather wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | TheGodfather wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Let's frame it another way. What has Kurt Rambis accomplished in a front office to justify him having a high level role (basically the assistant GM) in the Lakers organization? The answer is nothing. He has no FO experience (something that we unfortunately seem to view as a plus). No training under someone experienced and accomplished. He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
Well, let's look at that another way. Did Linda Rambis get hired by the Lakers BECAUSE of the Lakers relationship with Kurt Rambis? Rambis has been with the team as a player and an assistance coach before Linda ever came on board. So why are we assuming Kurt's coming back on board is because of Linda? |
Precisely because without that connection it makes no sense for Kurt to be hired in the first place and there's a well documented history of nepotism in our organization. Kurt is taking the place of somebody capable and experienced and that should bother you. |
I don't think there is any doubt that nepotism is a huge issue. But that doesn't mean that Kurt cannot be successful in this role. Just seems that maybe we ought to wait and see what happens in the next 2-3 years with the organization before we make any kind of judgment on his front office abilities. Or will it just be assumed that if we do when two titles it will be in spite of him? |
Hiring a bunch of inexperienced people because they're your pals and crossing your fingers that they stumble into success is not a sound strategy from a serious owner. We can bypass the whole waiting several years thing and just hire someone good who has already proven themselves. But she wants her buddies. Thats embarrassing, and that's why you're hearing that kind of 7th grade thinking being mocked on a podcast. |
But it isn't the nepotism that is being constantly questioned.....it is Kurt's abilities. I'm not sure why Kurt has become the official punching bag when really it should be Jeanie. I'm right on board with the idea that the Lakers should be using their resources to hire the best and brightest throughout the organization. They could be seeking all sorts of people with experience to become GM or president. We know that and these decisions fall on one person and one person alone, Jeanie. So let's go after Jeanie. The person who hired Magic. The person who hired Kurt. We don't like the process used to bring Kurt in. Okay. But he is there. So why not hope he is successful? And instead of mocking him at every chance when we don't know if he will be successful or not, can we just want and see and give him just a sliver of respect?
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Good point, it ultimately starts with Jeanie.
Rambis as the punching bag is misguided tbh. |
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| LakerSD wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
I think this is the issue. There is nepotism and then there is nepotism.
Someone like Mike Shanahan, who has been accused of nepotism actually was right about his son who is one of the more respected offensive minds in football. You could say Jesse Buss has built a great reputation too but that’s a different case anyway because he is part owner.
The issue with Kurt being in his role is it is 100% due to Linda Rambis being Jeanie’s best friend and that kind of nepotism can’t happen in a professional sports organization. |
Our front office is almost entirely comprised of Jerry Buss' kids, Kobe's agent, Jerry West's son, and the owner's best friend and her husband (who was a former Laker player). If that isn't a nepotism problem what would one look like? |
That’s why I said there is nepotism and then there is nepotism.
At least West’s son has proven himself. The Buss kids are owners by inheritance so that is what it is.
Rambis has proven that he is not good at anything basketball related outside of his playing career. Similar to Magic.
Kobe’s agent is tbd and you are correct that he was hired strictly to keep Kobe happy and open line of communication with the Lakers. |
The Lakers have been insanely lucky (and located in Los Angeles) to find themselves in the position they're in. If LeBron has no interest in off court ventures and doesn't decide to leave a Finals team for one of the worst teams in the league NONE of this exists and we're still in the lotto. No LeBron. No Davis forcing his way to LA. If people want to credit this to the wizardry of Rob Pelinka and the Rambis Family they can knock themselves out. The opportunity was on the table to marry our geographic and historic advantages with an elite, experienced executive. We passed. Slumber party at Jeanie's House.
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| adkindo wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Let's frame it another way. What has Kurt Rambis accomplished in a front office to justify him having a high level role (basically the assistant GM) in the Lakers organization? The answer is nothing. He has no FO experience (something that we unfortunately seem to view as a plus). No training under someone experienced and accomplished. He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
That is a big part of the NBA.....nepotism is extremely strong in the league. Does anyone think Ryan West came in off the street and completed a job application in El Segundo? What did Danny Ainge ever do to deserve to be named Executive Director of Basketball Operations for the Celtics in 2003? It is kind of a recent thing, and still limited for guys to actually earn Executive positions in front offices based on previous good work in a sports FO or a sports management career. |
We didn't invent nepotism but we certainly took it to new heights. |
we just gave a contract to a guy that is almost 22 years old, and could barely get playing time at Dayton because of his last name. |
So what? You do realize that signing Kostas is not an example of nepotism because his family have zero connection to the Lakers currently, right? |
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| TheGodfather wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | TheGodfather wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | TheGodfather wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Let's frame it another way. What has Kurt Rambis accomplished in a front office to justify him having a high level role (basically the assistant GM) in the Lakers organization? The answer is nothing. He has no FO experience (something that we unfortunately seem to view as a plus). No training under someone experienced and accomplished. He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
Well, let's look at that another way. Did Linda Rambis get hired by the Lakers BECAUSE of the Lakers relationship with Kurt Rambis? Rambis has been with the team as a player and an assistance coach before Linda ever came on board. So why are we assuming Kurt's coming back on board is because of Linda? |
Precisely because without that connection it makes no sense for Kurt to be hired in the first place and there's a well documented history of nepotism in our organization. Kurt is taking the place of somebody capable and experienced and that should bother you. |
I don't think there is any doubt that nepotism is a huge issue. But that doesn't mean that Kurt cannot be successful in this role. Just seems that maybe we ought to wait and see what happens in the next 2-3 years with the organization before we make any kind of judgment on his front office abilities. Or will it just be assumed that if we do when two titles it will be in spite of him? |
Hiring a bunch of inexperienced people because they're your pals and crossing your fingers that they stumble into success is not a sound strategy from a serious owner. We can bypass the whole waiting several years thing and just hire someone good who has already proven themselves. But she wants her buddies. Thats embarrassing, and that's why you're hearing that kind of 7th grade thinking being mocked on a podcast. |
But it isn't the nepotism that is being constantly questioned.....it is Kurt's abilities. I'm not sure why Kurt has become the official punching bag when really it should be Jeanie. I'm right on board with the idea that the Lakers should be using their resources to hire the best and brightest throughout the organization. They could be seeking all sorts of people with experience to become GM or president. We know that and these decisions fall on one person and one person alone, Jeanie. So let's go after Jeanie. The person who hired Magic. The person who hired Kurt. We don't like the process used to bring Kurt in. Okay. But he is there. So why not hope he is successful? And instead of mocking him at every chance when we don't know if he will be successful or not, can we just want and see and give him just a sliver of respect? |
I think the people that tend to be critical of Kurt are doing so with the understanding that Jeanie is the main problem. She's the one who enabled him. We all hope all of them are successful, but that isn't the point. And no, I'm not interested in hiring another inexperienced friend of Jeanie and waiting more years to find out if he's capable when they can just go hire a capable person without waiting and rubbing a rabbits foot.
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| ocho wrote: | | He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
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Our front office is almost entirely comprised of Jerry Buss' kids, Kobe's agent, Jerry West's son, and the owner's best friend and her husband (who was a former Laker player). If that isn't a nepotism problem what would one look like? |
| ocho wrote: | | Let's frame it another way. What has Kurt Rambis accomplished in a front office to justify him having a high level role (basically the assistant GM) in the Lakers organization? The answer is nothing. He has no FO experience (something that we unfortunately seem to view as a plus). No training under someone experienced and accomplished. He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
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Precisely because without that connection it makes no sense for Kurt to be hired in the first place and there's a well documented history of nepotism in our organization. Kurt is taking the place of somebody capable and experienced and that should bother you. |
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Hiring a bunch of inexperienced people because they're your pals and crossing your fingers that they stumble into success is not a sound strategy from a serious owner. We can bypass the whole waiting several years thing and just hire someone good who has already proven themselves. But she wants her buddies. Thats embarrassing, and that's why you're hearing that kind of 7th grade thinking being mocked on a podcast. |
| ocho wrote: | | I think the people that tend to be critical of Kurt are doing so with the understanding that Jeanie is the main problem. She's the one who enabled him. We all hope all of them are successful, but that isn't the point. And no, I'm not interested in hiring another inexperienced friend of Jeanie and waiting more years to find out if he's capable when they can just go hire a capable person without waiting and rubbing a rabbits foot. |
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The Lakers have been insanely lucky (and located in Los Angeles) to find themselves in the position they're in. If LeBron has no interest in off court ventures and doesn't decide to leave a Finals team for one of the worst teams in the league NONE of this exists and we're still in the lotto. No LeBron. No Davis forcing his way to LA. If people want to credit this to the wizardry of Rob Pelinka and the Rambis Family they can knock themselves out. The opportunity was on the table to marry our geographic and historic advantages with an elite, experienced executive. We passed. Slumber party at Jeanie's House. |
After all the crap you were posting in the Pelinka thread before the off-season started... you kinda outed yourself as an illogical FO-hater and perhaps even as a Boo Boo bear to VLF's Yogi bear. I've said it before, but it really wouldn't surprise me to find out that you two know each other in real life or are related or even are shadow accounts of the same person, lol. Anyway, I think you owe Rob and the FO an apology... and it might even be appropriate that you pucker up and kiss Rob's bum-bum the next time you see him, to make up for all the hating. 
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| LAL1947 wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | He was an assistant coach and then perhaps the worst head coach of the modern era. That's the resume. His wife is friends with the owner and that's why he has the job. That's an embarrassment worthy of mockery. |
I think this is the issue. There is nepotism and then there is nepotism.
Someone like Mike Shanahan, who has been accused of nepotism actually was right about his son who is one of the more respected offensive minds in football. You could say Jesse Buss has built a great reputation too but that’s a different case anyway because he is part owner.
The issue with Kurt being in his role is it is 100% due to Linda Rambis being Jeanie’s best friend and that kind of nepotism can’t happen in a professional sports organization. |
Our front office is almost entirely comprised of Jerry Buss' kids, Kobe's agent, Jerry West's son, and the owner's best friend and her husband (who was a former Laker player). If that isn't a nepotism problem what would one look like? |
That’s why I said there is nepotism and then there is nepotism.
At least West’s son has proven himself. The Buss kids are owners by inheritance so that is what it is.
Rambis has proven that he is not good at anything basketball related outside of his playing career. Similar to Magic.
Kobe’s agent is tbd and you are correct that he was hired strictly to keep Kobe happy and open line of communication with the Lakers. |
The Lakers have been insanely lucky (and located in Los Angeles) to find themselves in the position they're in. If LeBron has no interest in off court ventures and doesn't decide to leave a Finals team for one of the worst teams in the league NONE of this exists and we're still in the lotto. No LeBron. No Davis forcing his way to LA. If people want to credit this to the wizardry of Rob Pelinka and the Rambis Family they can knock themselves out. The opportunity was on the table to marry our geographic and historic advantages with an elite, experienced executive. We passed. Slumber party at Jeanie's House. |
After all the crap you were posting in the Pelinka thread before the off-season started... you kinda outed yourself as an illogical FO-hater and perhaps even as a Boo Boo bear to VLF's Yogi bear. I've said it before, but it really wouldn't surprise me to find out that you two know each other in real life or are related or even are shadow accounts of the same person, lol. Anyway, I think you owe Rob and the FO an apology... and it might even be appropriate that you pucker up and kiss Rob's bum-bum the next time you see him, to make up for all the hating. |
Yawn.
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| LAL1947 wrote: |
After all the crap you were posting in the Pelinka thread before the off-season started... you kinda outed yourself as an illogical FO-hater and perhaps even as a Boo Boo bear to VLF's Yogi bear. I've said it before, but it really wouldn't surprise me to find out that you two know each other in real life or are related or even are shadow accounts of the same person, lol. Anyway, I think you owe Rob and the FO an apology... and it might even be appropriate that you pucker up and kiss Rob's bum-bum the next time you see him, to make up for all the hating. |
Are you saying I am Ocho's shadow account? Oh lordy.
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There, there Boo Boo bear... it's going to be okay. :pat_pat: |
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| TheGodfather wrote: | | LAL1947 wrote: |
After all the crap you were posting in the Pelinka thread before the off-season started... you kinda outed yourself as an illogical FO-hater and perhaps even as a Boo Boo bear to VLF's Yogi bear. I've said it before, but it really wouldn't surprise me to find out that you two know each other in real life or are related or even are shadow accounts of the same person, lol. Anyway, I think you owe Rob and the FO an apology... and it might even be appropriate that you pucker up and kiss Rob's bum-bum the next time you see him, to make up for all the hating. |
Are you saying I am Ocho's shadow account? Oh lordy. |
Why would you think I was talking to you? I quoted Ocho, not you... and made reference to VLF and Ocho in the reply, not you. |
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Look, I don't think this argument is valid that because he did not have success as a head coach, he cannot have success as a front office guy. I think it is an incredibly lazy argument. He has had success as a role player and he has had success as an assistant coach. Both Magic and Phil trust his intelligence. There are lots of people who are good at one thing and bad at another. His lack of head coaching success on teams lacking talent provides zero evidence he can't provide sound advice to Jeanie. Does anyone have anything specific or quantified explaining why he cannot be successful in that role?
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