will Luol Dengs retirement mean anything to the caplock he has on the lakers?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:20 am    Post subject: will Luol Dengs retirement mean anything to the caplock he has on the lakers?

do the lakers still have to pay this guy 5 mil for the next 2 seasons?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:22 am    Post subject:

Yes.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:24 am    Post subject:

un effing believable
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:25 am    Post subject:

PepsiShine wrote:
un effing believable


Terrible.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:28 am    Post subject:

PepsiShine wrote:
un effing believable


Eh, it’s the rules. I think that technically they have already paid him, it’s his cap hold that we still have.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:45 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
PepsiShine wrote:
un effing believable


Eh, it’s the rules. I think that technically they have already paid him, it’s his cap hold that we still have.


Yes.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:46 am    Post subject:

This sucks
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:57 am    Post subject:

This would be the 4th years of the Mozgov/Deng deals.

Mozgov hasn't played an NBA game since 2017-18 and now plays in Russia.

Deng played 23 games in years 2 and 3 of the deal and is now retired.

I'll wait for the 30 for 30 on these Laker signings in a few years. Thanks, Mitch!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:12 am    Post subject:

We've got some pretty quality FA signings this offseason. Sometimes, its how you use the capspace that you do have. In Rob we trust.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:24 am    Post subject:

lakersfever714 wrote:
We've got some pretty quality FA signings this offseason. Sometimes, its how you use the capspace that you do have. In Rob we trust.


there was a time where we would give mitch kupcheck our unwavering loyalty.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:45 am    Post subject:

Would have been nice for him to retire 2 years ago. Oh well.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:46 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
PepsiShine wrote:
un effing believable


Eh, it’s the rules. I think that technically they have already paid him, it’s his cap hold that we still have.


Thank you Jim Buss. The gift that keeps on giving.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:58 pm    Post subject:

Just saw D’Angelo on the cover of slam. The cost of signing Mozgov. It’s like the financial bailout. Yeah Ken Lewis bought countrywide for a steep price but it was the cost of unwinding that trade that really hurt.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:10 pm    Post subject:

this is probably incorrect
but did we actually lose cap space?
would his salary have been discounted from our cap hit?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:12 pm    Post subject:

cal1piggy wrote:
this is probably incorrect
but did we actually lose cap space?
would his salary have been discounted from our cap hit?


$5mil for this season plus 2 more seasons
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:20 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
cal1piggy wrote:
this is probably incorrect
but did we actually lose cap space?
would his salary have been discounted from our cap hit?


$5mil for this season plus 2 more seasons


the sh1tty part is that if they didnt buyout his contract, we would have never been able to sign lebron, or trade for davis.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:40 pm    Post subject:

PepsiShine wrote:
governator wrote:
cal1piggy wrote:
this is probably incorrect
but did we actually lose cap space?
would his salary have been discounted from our cap hit?


$5mil for this season plus 2 more seasons


the sh1tty part is that if they didnt buyout his contract, we would have never been able to sign lebron, or trade for davis.


We could have still signed LeBron, and he could have been included in the Davis trade as an expiring contract. It would have cost us KCP and Rondo for the last 2 years though.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:19 pm    Post subject:

1hu2ren3dui4 wrote:
Just saw D’Angelo on the cover of slam. The cost of signing Mozgov. It’s like the financial bailout. Yeah Ken Lewis bought countrywide for a steep price but it was the cost of unwinding that trade that really hurt.


Especially when it wasn’t necessary. But there was no way Magic would keep DLO.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:41 pm    Post subject:

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1hu2ren3dui4 wrote:
Just saw D’Angelo on the cover of slam. The cost of signing Mozgov. It’s like the financial bailout. Yeah Ken Lewis bought countrywide for a steep price but it was the cost of unwinding that trade that really hurt.


Especially when it wasn’t necessary. But there was no way Magic would keep DLO.


Everyone forgets how mediocre Russell looked after his third year, the Nets didn't even try to extend him that offseason. He and Lonzo combined to miss nearly a whole season, and most of the missed games for both were in the middle to second half of the season.

Carrying DLo, Lonzo, and Clarkson as our 3-guard rotation in 2017-18 likely means another year in Cleveland for LeBron, while making it harder to trade JC due to his reduced role next to DLo (JC was the forgotten negative asset we were lucky to shed).

Finally, the $34 million in dead salary would make LeBron (or anyone) hesitate to join us, and even if the final two years of Mozgov are moved for Dwight Howard, Dwight's buyout is a bigger one-year cap hit.

And can anyone explain why the Pelicans would be eager to accept Deng's contract in the AD trade? Not without unloading Solomon Hill! Griffin liked not having to take back equal salary for AD.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:30 am    Post subject:

True, Griffin said “you are going to give me what I want” and Pelinka said “OK”.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:34 am    Post subject:

Deng. The gift that keeps on giving.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:24 am    Post subject:

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True, Griffin said “you are going to give me what I want” and Pelinka said “OK”.


Griffin wanted Kuzma...
And the price for AD included an in-conference premium. Danny Green at $15.5M is a better fit for this team than Ingram/Ball are projected to be in the immediate future, and Ingram isn't worth going over the apron to keep.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:43 am    Post subject:

lakersfever714 wrote:
We've got some pretty quality FA signings this offseason. Sometimes, its how you use the capspace that you do have. In Rob we trust.


BTW what grade did MK get this off-season with the Hornets.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:07 pm    Post subject:

I was compiling a list of least favorite Lakers over the past 20 years, and forgot all about Deng. He's on my list too...

Grant
Bynum
Fisher
Payton
Deng

quite an assortment - most were spoiled brats, one couldn't play defense.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:26 pm    Post subject:

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I was compiling a list of least favorite Lakers over the past 20 years, and forgot all about Deng. He's on my list too...

Grant
Bynum
Fisher
Payton
Deng

quite an assortment - most were spoiled brats, one couldn't play defense.


Fisher? really? what makes you put Mr. .04 on this list?
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