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What sets these humans off to be SO disconnected like this
What is it..
Horrible piece of (bleep) sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania .. trying to incite the whole world into chaos..
"Multiple Fatalities"
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These mass shootings are occurring every other week, and the government will do nothing about this. I should've realized this when nothing was done in response to the murdered children in Newtown, Connecticut.  |
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| Black20Ice wrote: | | These mass shootings are occurring every other week, and the government will do nothing about this. I should've realized this when nothing was done in response to the murdered children in Newtown, Connecticut. |
2 this week. |
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https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/patrick-crusius/amp/
Patrick Crusius: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
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NBC News reports there were at least 19 people killed in the August 3
shooting with a further 40 injured. The exact number of injuries and
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Just what I thought
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BREAKING: FBI investigating possible manifesto from the shooter which starts with the following two sentences: "In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto. This attack is a response to the
Hispanic invasion of Texas"
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This is off the top of my head. Have there been more mass shooting since Trump took office?
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | Just what I thought
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BREAKING: FBI investigating possible manifesto from the shooter which starts with the following two sentences: "In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto. This attack is a response to the
Hispanic invasion of Texas"
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| jodeke wrote: | | This is off the top of my head. Have there been more mass shooting since Trump took office? |
I think there has been an increase, but if you objectively look at the data, it suggests more correlation, not causation. There were many more during Obama's term than during GW Bush's term. It is increasing.
In raw data (while in office)
Trump - 28 (less than 3 years in office)
Obama - 41 (8 years in office)
GW Bush - 11 (8 years in office)
Clinton - 18 (8 years in office)
Bush - 7 (4 years in office)
Reagan - 7 (8 years in office)
Keep in mind, that is raw data of what qualifies as a "mass shooting"....you have to dig deeper to break out guy in Wal-Mart shooting at everyone from school shootings from organized crime/gang violence from domestic situations. |
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| adkindo wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | This is off the top of my head. Have there been more mass shooting since Trump took office? |
I think there has been an increase, but if you objectively look at the data, it suggests more correlation, not causation. There were many more during Obama's term than during GW Bush's term. It is increasing.
In raw data (while in office)
Trump - 28 (less than 3 years in office)
Obama - 41 (8 years in office)
GW Bush - 11 (8 years in office)
Clinton - 18 (8 years in office)
Bush - 7 (4 years in office)
Reagan - 7 (8 years in office)
Keep in mind, that is raw data of what qualifies as a "mass shooting"....you have to dig deeper to break out guy in Wal-Mart shooting at everyone from school shootings from organized crime/gang violence from domestic situations. |
You may have a fair point. Except it doesn't eliminate the fact that the recent shooters (and the scumbag who drove his car into the Charlottesville crowd) were puppeting the racially divisive rhetoric that Trump has been encouraging which was not the case in the majority of previous shootings.
On another note, Wal-mart is an open carry store in an open carry state . . . so what the (bleep) happened to all those "good guys with a gun"?
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | This is off the top of my head. Have there been more mass shooting since Trump took office? |
I think there has been an increase, but if you objectively look at the data, it suggests more correlation, not causation. There were many more during Obama's term than during GW Bush's term. It is increasing.
In raw data (while in office)
Trump - 28 (less than 3 years in office)
Obama - 41 (8 years in office)
GW Bush - 11 (8 years in office)
Clinton - 18 (8 years in office)
Bush - 7 (4 years in office)
Reagan - 7 (8 years in office)
Keep in mind, that is raw data of what qualifies as a "mass shooting"....you have to dig deeper to break out guy in Wal-Mart shooting at everyone from school shootings from organized crime/gang violence from domestic situations. |
You may have a fair point. Except it doesn't eliminate the fact that the recent shooters (and the scumbag who drove his car into the Charlottesville crowd) were puppeting the racially divisive rhetoric that Trump has been encouraging which was not the case in the majority of previous shootings.
On another note, Wal-mart is an open carry store in an open carry state . . . so what the (bleep) happened to all those "good guys with a gun"? |
From what you post Trump seems to be more causation. In 3 years he's 13 shy of Obama's 8 year high.
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| adkindo wrote: | | I think there has been an increase, but if you objectively look at the data, it suggests more correlation, not causation. |
Sure, correlation is not causation. For example, it is hard to link Trump to the Orlando night club shooting by an ISIS sympathizer. I'm not sure we've ever gotten a definitive answer as to the motive for the Las Vegas shooting, but it did not seem political.
Anyway, I wouldn't give Trump too much credit. At least in part, Trump is riding the same wave as some of these lunatics. But the wave transcends those who ride it. I wouldn't be too quick to assume that this particular lunatic was influenced much by Trump. As we have seen, there are a lot of other voices out there, and many of them are a lot darker than Trump. |
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1157803228530188289
| Quote: | | CNN reports that local officials in El Paso believe some mass shooting victims didn’t seek medical treatment because of their immigration status. |
Can you imagine being a nurse or doctor knowing you cannot help this person and they may be the victim of your
citizens hatred but are too afraid to seek potentially life saving medical care |
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| It's quite ridiculous that gun violence is not seen as a public health crisis. The government needs to lift the ban and allow funding for data compilation and research. Doctors and medical professionals are the ones that have to deal with the immediate aftermath. Literally every other disease/killer have peer reviewed data and research including deaths from car accidents and drownings, etc, but not gun violence. |
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1157803228530188289
| Quote: | | CNN reports that local officials in El Paso believe some mass shooting victims didn’t seek medical treatment because of their immigration status. |
Can you imagine being a nurse or doctor knowing you cannot help this person and they may be the victim of your
citizens hatred but are too afraid to seek potentially life saving medical care |
That's sad |
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| Ted wrote: | | It's quite ridiculous that gun violence is not seen as a public health crisis. The government needs to lift the ban and allow funding for data compilation and research. Doctors and medical professionals are the ones that have to deal with the immediate aftermath. Literally every other disease/killer have peer reviewed data and research including deaths from car accidents and drownings, etc, but not gun violence. |
Profits before Humanity... never sustainable
LA Times Column: The NRA has blocked gun violence research for 20 years. Let’s end its stranglehold on science.
| Quote: | It’s widely supposed that Congress enacted a “ban” on federal funding for gun violence research in 1996. That isn’t quite true, says Mark Rosenberg, a gun violence expert who was head of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Center for Injury Prevention and Control at the time. But the truth is even more demoralizing.
If research on cancer were stopped for a single day, there would be a huge protest. But this research has been stopped for 20 years.
Mark Rosenberg, former head of CDC injury prevention program
Infuriated by CDC-funded research suggesting that having firearms in the home sharply increased the risks of homicide, the NRA goaded Congress in 1996 into stripping the injury center’s funding for gun violence research – $2.6 million. Congress then passed a measure drafted by then-Rep. Jay Dickey (R-Ark.) forbidding the CDC to spend funds “to advocate or promote gun control.” (The NRA initially hoped to eradicate the injury center entirely.)
The Dickey Amendment didn’t technically ban any federally funded gun violence research. The real blow was delivered by a succession of pusillanimous CDC directors, who decided that the safest course bureaucratically was simply to zero out the whole field.
Remarkably, that approach has continued to the present day: After the Newtown massacre of schoolchildren in 2012, President Obama issued an executive order instructing the CDC to “conduct or sponsor research into the causes of gun violence and the ways to prevent it.” But the agency has refused unless it receives a specific appropriation to cover the research. Congress played its obligatory role in acting as the NRA’s cat’s-paw by repeatedly rejecting bills to provide $10 million for the work.
“Removing the money from the budget and enacting the Dickey Amendment were the first and second shots across the bow by the NRA,” Rosenberg said. “The third shot is the idea that if you do this research, you’ll be hassled” by the NRA. “The result is that the CDC basically does nothing in gun violence research. If research on cancer were stopped for a single day, there would be a huge protest. But this research has been stopped for 20 years.” |
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This has become the norm. As normal as LA car chases. Should the media just not cover it so stuff like this doesn't get anymore exposure?
Unfortunately this isn't going to be the last one, just a matter of where and when next. Where is our society/human race going wrong? Seems like today's youth has become so numb and heartless and brainwashed by hatred. |
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Disgusted but not surprised.
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If lawmakers did nothing after sandy hook. Than this will not phase them either
NRA, trump, politicians who take money from the nra are all (bleep) suckers .. every single one of them |
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| 999 wrote: | | NRA, trump, politicians who take money from the nra are all (bleep) suckers .. every single one of them |
I agree. The NRA floods money into these corrupt money whore politicians and the US is flooded with guns.
The whole point of having a constitution/Bill of rights..etc is that it brings stability to the nation. When the nation becomes unstable than we have a serious problem.
1) The NRA is destabilizing the US.
2) Trump words and actions are inspiring the crazy people.
3) The 2nd amendment argument is being taken out of context and used as a argument for the NRA and politicians to make money from it.
Guns are doing more harm than good for the US and this not what the constitution is about. And it makes me sick to see people dying over and over.
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| ANOTHER "active shooter incident" in Dayton, Ohio. That one might have its own thread before too long, who knows. This country is diseased. |
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| 999 wrote: | If lawmakers did nothing after sandy hook. Than this will not phase them either
NRA, trump, politicians who take money from the nra are all (bleep) suckers .. every single one of them |
We're not too far away from Moscow Mitch wondering why the hell Jon Stewart was "all riled up" about the dying 9/11 first responders. Soulless F's. Blatantly Un-American. Obama teared up while talking about Sandy Hook and Repubs call it choreographed and that he was "using" the tragedy for political gain.
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | I think there has been an increase, but if you objectively look at the data, it suggests more correlation, not causation. |
Sure, correlation is not causation. For example, it is hard to link Trump to the Orlando night club shooting by an ISIS sympathizer. I'm not sure we've ever gotten a definitive answer as to the motive for the Las Vegas shooting, but it did not seem political.
Anyway, I wouldn't give Trump too much credit. At least in part, Trump is riding the same wave as some of these lunatics. But the wave transcends those who ride it. I wouldn't be too quick to assume that this particular lunatic was influenced much by Trump. As we have seen, there are a lot of other voices out there, and many of them are a lot darker than Trump. |
Sure, we can pick out some shootings that aren’t linked, but there’s no denying the fact that the majority of mass casualty shootings of recent share a remarkable similarity in their perpetrators. And their links to Trump and his rhetoric, which he is driving and escalating specifically to target and incite the people that these shooters are coming from.
This shooter used his words specifically about invasion, drive nine hours to a location Trump specifically called out, targeted the people Trump is telling them are vermin and an infestation and taking over his country.
It’s not so much that there’s a link as it is that there’s a direct connection.
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| Omar Little wrote: | Sure, we can pick out some shootings that aren’t linked, but there’s no denying the fact that the majority of mass casualty shootings of recent share a remarkable similarity in their perpetrators. And their links to Trump and his rhetoric, which he is driving and escalating specifically to target and incite the people that these shooters are coming from.
This shooter used his words specifically about invasion, drive nine hours to a location Trump specifically called out, targeted the people Trump is telling them are vermin and an infestation and taking over his country.
It’s not so much that there’s a link as it is that there’s a direct connection. |
Offhand, I don’t remember Trump calling out El Paso. But then, Trump attacks pretty much everything, so it wouldn’t surprise me if he did. Still, I think people give Trump too much “credit” for this sort of stuff. This guy was part of the wacko subculture that gave us everything from The Turner Diaries to InfoWars. Now you can add 8chan to the list. Does Trump contribute to this? Sure, I wouldn’t argue against that. I just wouldn’t give him as much “credit” as you do. |
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